Tracks LA Canyons 1.2

[sissydriver]

the barriers are open. like christmas. crazy. i am nearly an old man (from the numbers, not what i am feeling) and this is a time warp back in the years where we were young and enthusiastic. thanks a lot phoenix and team!

 

[sissydriver]

the flickering and shaking is really bad. but i hope you find a way to fix this.
coffee again to you!

 

[Michael Hornbuckle]

Flickering is due to AC engine limitation, nothing can be done about it.

 

[aleserx]

No email here yet. Are they still being sent? Or should I start to get worried by now...

 

[Ben O'Bro]

I have noticed that the fixes we get with the VIP content is not listed any where else. Isn't this files that people without VIP should have also?

we're gathering feedback as to things to fix
i think phoenix posted the hotfix files a while back in the support section to people following the posts
we still improved some things in the mean time, and the idea is to get a 1.x version in few weeks addressing all the issues we listed

 

[sissydriver]

i am sure there is a way to fix it. there was so much impossible with ac - i hope so

 

[djtopa]

No email here yet. Are they still being sent? Or should I start to get worried by now...

Same here but it will come...no worries Ive been told.

 

[Gunja]

i am sure there is a way to fix it. there was so much impossible with ac - i hope so

Director makes movies, not cameras.
Same thing here, 3D artists make tracks and not improve or mod game's engine. "Impossible" things were done by programers.

 

[Mumaransa]

i am sure there is a way to fix it. there was so much impossible with ac - i hope so

For the shaking you can try to use this patch from Ilja:

Shaders Patch - Reduced Wobbling

 

[Chris McLellan]

First of all thanks very much for your work on this track.

I do have an issue though. If I drive at 8.00am using the few clouds sol weather I get a lot of creeping shadows running up and down the hills as I drive, is there anyway to correct this?

 

[The Turbo]

Same here but it will come...no worries Ive been told.

 

[Eric88]

Yeah you can have oncoming traffic!

For that, what you need is:

1. CM with Shader Patch mod installed
2. Shader Patch module New AI Behavior activated with the options that allows to drive wrong way in practice or track day.
3. Choose CM Track Day session, select one Canyons 1 way traffic layout and for the AI, select number, car models, performance, etc.
4. Start Track Day session and drive on your right hand lane in reverse direction to AI.
5. You will get endless AI oncoming traffic. Enjoy! ​

Notes:

1 way traffic layout allows AI to drive on its right hand lane and use its left hand lane to overtake. Remember that your right hand lane is the left hand lane for the AI. So if you choose car models with very different performances for the AI, the chances of AI overtakes are greater and you will be in trouble.​

Sometimes the AI behaves strangely. Playing with the options of AI New Behavior module you can improve it.​

If you want faster cars oncoming traffic you can rename ai_hints file because it is currently limiting the AI speed.​

Got it, thanks! The AI Flood is pretty cool too going in the same direction..you always have more cars to pass!

 

[Deleted member 197115]

For the shaking you can try to use this patch from Ilja:

Shaders Patch - Reduced Wobbling

Not really, doesn't do anything to VIP content shake.
Guess the nature of the problem is different from what that shader supposed to fix.
Is it related to track length, what is the limitation that's causing it, just curious?
Thanks

 

[Ben O'Bro]

i think this wobbling fix is included to CM long ago now

Look at the magnificent illustration of mine.
Further from the origin, the more shaking

Now as for why is it shaking.
Every 3D software i know does that when it comes to big values far from the origin. Except 3dsmax for example we're talking 1000km before we have "shaking" issues.
For AC it's much smaller, but so as every track intented to be done with the game!
The technical reason, i'm guessing, it's probably due to values for the physics engine being too big, and being rounded up, ending up in less accurate positioning etc.
Phoenix moved the track in the early version, before 0.55 i think, to have the origin the most centered possible to have less shaking on the main loop.

We could imagine having the Wilson hillclimb for example centered with all its objects near the origin since we don't need the rest of the track.
But for the long Cañada to Newcomb, not much can be done!

Banana Nords for scale, all within 5km circle...

 

[Scarystuff]

It's a small price to pay for this track, I think..

 

[Deleted member 197115]

Thanks a lot @Ben O'Bro for detailed explanation. Very much appreciated.
Hope you didn't draw these diagrams just to answer my question.

 

[Daniel oliver]

Great track had a few hours driving around getting lost up in the mountains in a Porsche 918 think I was in heaven. I did have a problem installing the VIP files with cm, had to manually copy the files over to get them to work.

 

[correca]

Got it, thanks! The AI Flood is pretty cool too going in the same direction..you always have more cars to pass!

Yeah! I like to drive in the right hand lane and only use the left hand lane to overtake AI cars. My car has a similar performance to AI cars and I allow them to run without speed limit by renaming the ai_hints file.

 

[Leonardo Ratafiá]

i think this wobbling fix is included to CM long ago now

Look at the magnificent illustration of mine.
Further from the origin, the more shaking

Now as for why is it shaking.
Every 3D software i know does that when it comes to big values far from the origin. Except 3dsmax for example we're talking 1000km before we have "shaking" issues.
For AC it's much smaller, but so as every track intented to be done with the game!
The technical reason, i'm guessing, it's probably due to values for the physics engine being too big, and being rounded up, ending up in less accurate positioning etc.
Phoenix moved the track in the early version, before 0.55 i think, to have the origin the most centered possible to have less shaking on the main loop.

We could imagine having the Wilson hillclimb for example centered with all its objects near the origin since we don't need the rest of the track.
But for the long Cañada to Newcomb, not much can be done!

Banana Nords for scale, all within 5km circle...
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yeah, it could help a bit by releasing the layouts as separated tracks and with the origin mos centered.

 

[CobraCat]

As has been said previously, ACC doesn't have this problem. That is probably the long term solution although I don't envy the person or persons that would have to convert LAC from AC to ACC.

The shaking seems less noticeable once the car is moving although that could simply be an oddity with my G29.