rFactor 2 | Spa-Francorchamps Release Next Week

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I'll never fail to find it quite bemusing that people are under the false impression that Members of a Dev team should drop work on certain areas to focus on others; Coders don't make tracks, track makers don't design UI, UI coders don't make Cars, Car makers don't make tracks...ad infinitum.

Spa is made by the track makers, they don't work on the hardcore code of the Sim, so if Bugs are still present it's not the fault of a new track being released!
 
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Would somebody please start a thread where people can express their opinions about the development of rF2 without taking a thread about new content way off topic all the time. :roflmao:

The views expressed here are interesting and valid and deserve an airing. Who knows, maybe the devs will read such a thread? :sneaky:

And the first person to suggest that nobody would read it should be the first in line to test that hypothesis. I would do it, but as a staff member.... well it wouldn't be the same coming from me. :roflmao: :thumbsup:
 

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I'll never fail to find it quite bemusing that people are under the false impression that Members of a Dev team should drop work on certain areas to focus on others; Coders don't make tracks, track makers don't design UI, UI coders don't make Cars, Car makers don't make tracks...ad infinitum.

Spa is made by the track makers, they don't work on the hardcore code of the Sim, so if Bugs are still present it's not the fault of a new track being released!
Well, there you go - you've solved all the mysteries.

But I liked the flame on the theme of greedy developers who get enriched by new tracks making users them buy. :mad::D
 
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Would somebody please start a thread where people can express their opinions about the development of rF2 without taking a thread about new content way off topic all the time. :roflmao:

The views expressed here are interesting and valid and deserve an airing. Who knows, maybe the devs will read such a thread? :sneaky:

And the first person to suggest that nobody would read it should be the first in line to test that hypothesis. I would do it, but as a staff member.... well it wouldn't be the same coming from me. :roflmao: :thumbsup:
Welcome to internet forums :D
 
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Wait.... are you..... are you saying a track that was made by a mod creator and not s397 is giving you headaches? And of course there’s gonna be wrecks at Nord; it’s nord lmfao even in PCars 2 I can’t get into a GT3 AI race without 3 restarts because a boso up front got turned. Racing isn’t 100% highlight reels. **** it’s barely 30% highlights with the rest being excruciating agony. Try any online racing sim and you’ll find a lobby with worse players than s397’s inherited AI system (that they’ve been making better from when I started last year).
Tl;Dr We aren’t Senna. We aren’t Earnhardt Sr. We aren’t Jim Clarke. We are average joes.
Belgium '66 is official content, not a mod.
 
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I can confirm just like @Bob Gnarley said AI at Spa 66 can be terrible.
With BT20 I had sessions when 4 out of 5 times race was more or less ruined after first corner.
Could be related to AI strength and number of vehicles of which btw I use only 10 AI opponents but it has nothing to do with me being out of focus if AI in front of me hit hay bales.
There are regular accidents at another point in the track too.
 
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I'll never fail to find it quite bemusing that people are under the false impression that Members of a Dev team should drop work on certain areas to focus on others; Coders don't make tracks, track makers don't design UI, UI coders don't make Cars, Car makers don't make tracks...ad infinitum.

Spa is made by the track makers, they don't work on the hardcore code of the Sim, so if Bugs are still present it's not the fault of a new track being released!
We don’t take kindly to people dropping facts here, we want to believe tracks are just vacuumed up with a Hoover and thrown into a game
 
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Belgium '66 is official content, not a mod.
Hmm going through my store content and I’m not finding it. Are you meaning it’s workshop content?
edit: Found it; things made by ISI and is as ancient as the first updates to the game
 
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Hmm going through my store content and I’m not finding it. Are you meaning it’s workshop content?
edit: Found it; things made by ISI and is as ancient as the first updates to the game
It comes with rf2 by default so it is official.
Apart from AIW it's a great track.
Modern SPA is a nice track but not as exciting as the old one.
 

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I couldn't agree more with you, @Bob Gnarley, and perhaps you are taking heat from fanboys or guys who do little offline, due to work I had to move away from online, times on league racing were not working, and despite of the impressive selection of tracks rf2 ends up killing me with the AI behavior, almost useless to the point I end up on AMS2's or ACC's very, very limited content selection, (almost no american tracks for one).

One thing I did just recently in rf2 and it helped a bit was to switch "rule settings" to Black Only, which eliminates stupid "YEllow Yellow Yellow Yellow"s almost every time in almost every track... still not great tho.

It almost makes me think twice before spending $10 bucks on yet another Spa if the free one is good and if this one is not going to improve AI Behavior...

S396 is a bit or a lot disorganized... things like this have gone on for very long and limit possibility to become the true preferred sim which they could be...
Thanks for the support man, appreciated!

It was a joke (and very clearly taking your words out of context, because it was a bit of a funny coincidence how you phrased it). Chill. You're taking this way too seriously, and that's *me* saying it.
I never take anything you say seriously Martin. In fact I tend to think of you as a pet troll that pops out from under the bridge anytime i make a comment. Annoying at first but now i find it quite endearing.

Quick fact: You alone are the sole reason for me not taking membership here at RD. Can't imagine paying for your unending wit.

Wait.... are you..... are you saying a track that was made by a mod creator and not s397 is giving you headaches? And of course there’s gonna be wrecks at Nord; it’s nord lmfao even in PCars 2 I can’t get into a GT3 AI race without 3 restarts because a boso up front got turned. Racing isn’t 100% highlight reels. **** it’s barely 30% highlights with the rest being excruciating agony. Try any online racing sim and you’ll find a lobby with worse players than s397’s inherited AI system (that they’ve been making better from when I started last year).
Tl;Dr We aren’t Senna. We aren’t Earnhardt Sr. We aren’t Jim Clarke. We are average joes.
Not sure what you are raving on about but before you edited your post it seems that you were making me out to be some kind of imbecile for racing historics at a historic circuit. Er yeah, good point.

And as you say "And of course there’s gonna be wrecks at Nord". There sure will if a bug causes cars to stop. If you want to be a little forum warrior at least learn how to read peoples posts thoroughly before going off half cocked.

Right, back on topic. What was it again?
 
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I never take anything you say seriously Martin. In fact I tend to think of you as a pet troll that pops out from under the bridge anytime i make a comment. Annoying at first but now i find it quite endearing.

Quick fact: You alone are the sole reason for me not taking membership here at RD. Can't imagine paying for your unending wit.
Well, glad to be of service I guess. Whatever floats your boat.
 
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Thanks for gifting the membership. Hilarious!

Now i logging out for three months. Have fun while i'm away.
 

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It comes with rf2 by default so it is official.
Apart from AIW it's a great track.
Modern SPA is a nice track but not as exciting as the old one.
Whether or not the modern Spa is better or not is a moot point, but you definitely have more chance of staying alive in the new version. I'm not a fan of crash and burn, even if it's only virtual :D
 

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Whether or not the modern Spa is better or not is a moot point, but you definitely have more chance of staying alive in the new version. I'm not a fan of crash and burn, even if it's only virtual :D
That's what makes it more exciting to me.
Almost 300 km/h with houses on the left and right.
Uneven track surface.
No runoff areas, no astroturfs, no margin for error.

In real life unless cruising in convertible I would choose modern one of course.