PC2 Project Cars 2 Leagues (merged)

[Rob]

I know we are all excited for this release. What I don't know is how many people intend to a) play it on the xbox one and b) would like to join some sort of a formal league here at Race Department.

There are so many possibilities, I've had to calm myself down from getting lost in them. However, my main passion, IndyCar, will probably not be able to be run until the DLC with the ovals comes to the Xbox One.

That said, what sort of series would you like to see? Personally, ones that come to mind are Tudor United Sports Car Series, WEC, British Touring Car, and DTM. One of these could fill the gap for me until IndyCar is possible, but others may have better ideas.

Please indicate below if you are interested and what sort of times you are available and which series' you prefer. We could follow the actual schedule of many a series, due to the timing of the release. Personally, if they get the ovals out before IndyCar starts, I'll probably turn my focus there, but nothing would prevent running another alongside.

The anticipation is killing me!

 

[Lance Loomis]

No Lance, I didn't...

Watch it on the replay.... you slightly move forward when you change to first and rev.

Not close enough for a penalty but if the start glitch is how you rocket off the line then I'll start doing that as well.

 

[Michael Watts]

If we keep it the current configuration the lap count for Le Mans is still approx 2.4 hours x10 time progression =24 hours.

@Robert Waddell, are you still in communication of the Owners of Road Atlanta? need to lobby for them to get the track into pCars or AC. I feel its being wasted in Forza and their school bus like physics engine.

 

[Michael Watts]

I just like the #3 because that was the car Dale Earnhardt Sr, drove in the 2001 24hrs at Daytona. Sr, enjoyed it so much he wanted to run again the next year but never got the chance after losing his life in the 500.

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[2pfspiff]

The best part is the end of the video. I have never heard that part, but it's hilarious. I nearly spit out my drink. For a moment, I could just feel the way it was. lol. In those days, NASCAR showed no remorse "just lifting the fine for the good of the sport" when old Dale Sr. got fined. That's priceless. That's true NASCAR...not giving a rats ass about how it looked in the media or whether they should do it. And the drivers knew this going in. In fact, the people that *didn't like* Dale Sr. for this reason needed this kind of stuff to hate him and it made it all the more better. lol. Also, loved the cars limping to the finish with busted up engines. <sigh>

Like I said the good ole days. I remember this race. Watched it with my dad. Watched TNN every sunday with my dad except when you had the occasional race on CBS or ABC.

 

[Rob]

If we keep it the current configuration the lap count for Le Mans is still approx 2.4 hours x10 time progression =24 hours.

@Robert Waddell, are you still in communication of the Owners of Road Atlanta? need to lobby for them to get the track into pCars or AC. I feel its being wasted in Forza and their school bus like physics engine.

Correction. Bus on ice. Small detail, though.

The owners are in Daytona. His name is France. Good luck. I wish we could get it, but these games are only produced in Europe now, and I think they not as familiar with Road Atlanta. Although, if they can put...um...Branchobrae?...in they damn well can put Road Atlanta in. Probably a license issue, although Sonoma and Watkins are in there.

 

[EpilepticToast]

Correction. Bus on ice. Small detail, though.

The owners are in Daytona. His name is France. Good luck. I wish we could get it, but these games are only produced in Europe now, and I think they not as familiar with Road Atlanta. Although, if they can put...um...Branchobrae?...in they damn well can put Road Atlanta in. Probably a license issue, although Sonoma and Watkins are in there.

any proper "real" racing fans worldwide have heard of Road Atlanta, and it is surely known in Europe (England anyway) because of the awesome 12hr petit le mans. Nick Tandy (best racecar driver in the world right now IMO) tore it up at Road Atlanta last season in the heavy rain. That was an amazing race and I'm quite sure he made headlines in England for the OVERALL victory, beating DP's and PC's in a gt3 porsche! Anway, yeah this track must be known well enough. Personally, It is my favourite American track tied with the glen, such a great flow to it. I could only imagine how good it would be with a simulation physics model...

 

[Ben Milden]

Watch it on the replay.... you slightly move forward when you change to first and rev.

Not close enough for a penalty but if the start glitch is how you rocket off the line then I'll start doing that as well.

You need to watch your pit exit lance if you want to talk near penalties. Literally a whisker away lol

 

[Ben Milden]

@Ronnie Dewey 5 second Penalty for crossing pit exit line

@Tyler Swartz removed from the league due to DILIBERATE contact with another driver

 

[Dominic Ollivierre]

You need to watch your pit exit lance if you want to talk near penalties. Literally a whisker away lol

Hey hey hey... What's with all the hostility? We are suppose to be whiskers away from penalties, so we could all be quick hehe... Don't worry lance, the stewards will be busy soon lol

 

[Lance Loomis]

@Ronnie Dewey 5 second Penalty for crossing pit exit line

@Tyler Swartz removed from the league due to DILIBERATE contact with another driver

How can stewards give penalties when no inquiry was made? You just posted about footage and only the drivers involved.

 

[2pfspiff]

Personally, It is my favourite American track tied with the glen, such a great flow to it. I could only imagine how good it would be with a simulation physics model...

What Forza doesn't have a good simulation physics mode?

 

[Rob]

That was an amazing race and I'm quite sure he made headlines in England for the OVERALL victory, beating DP's and PC's in a gt3 porsche!

Those DP cars are barely able to keep up with the GTLM cars now. lol. And of course, Rain + Traction Control = seconds. PC and DP do not have it. But impressive nonetheless.

I hate to say it because it's such a beloved track to the drivers, but I'd rather not have the modern incarnation, although Id take it. Before the turn 10 complex was inserted for big money, it was hands down the best track in America. But I'm biased. Wonder if @Peter Hooper has an opinion about Road Atlanta. I'm not sure he's that familiar with it, and if anyone in England should be, it's him.

 

[Rob]

What Forza doesn't have a good simulation physics mode?

It's like driving a 1972 Chevy Capris with bad shocks and a big engine...on oil.

 

[Anders Prehn]

Why has the ingame cutting and extending penalties been removed? It would solve a lot minor cutting

 

[2pfspiff]

It's like driving a 1972 Chevy Capris with bad shocks and a big engine...on oil.

Don't forget the backyard locker in the rear.

 

[Ben Milden]

Why has the ingame cutting and extending penalties been removed? It would solve a lot minor cutting

I agree

 

[Ben Milden]

How can stewards give penalties when no inquiry was made? You just posted about footage and only the drivers involved.

I check the pit entry and exits as I have the footage. Footage can be provided if people appeal this. Tyler admitted to me on a chat forum that he diliberatley took off Ronnie so that's an instant ejection from the league no enquiry needed.

 

[Ben Milden]

Ronnies move at turn 1 sorry Ronnie but this was bad.

Drivers involved: : @Ronnie Dewey @Jblackness1990 @Bajny
Time lost: ruined two peoples race

 

[Thomas While]

 

[Andrew Holmes]

Why has the ingame cutting and extending penalties been removed? It would solve a lot minor cutting

1. Because if you get forced off by another driver, it's you (the victim) who gets the penalty.

2. Because if in real life you have a moment in the middle of a corner (take Pouhon at Spa), you wouldn't let the car spin just to stay inside the white lines which could potentially put you out of the race, but also take three or four other drivers out. You would run into the run off, and you would lose upwards of 10 seconds because you avoided having a spin and ruining people's races.

3. You get penalised for spinning off the circuit. Because if you spin off into a run-off or grass, and you rejoin SAFELY to avoid other drivers, you then get a penalty for that