PC2 Project Cars 2 Leagues (merged)

[Rob]

I know we are all excited for this release. What I don't know is how many people intend to a) play it on the xbox one and b) would like to join some sort of a formal league here at Race Department.

There are so many possibilities, I've had to calm myself down from getting lost in them. However, my main passion, IndyCar, will probably not be able to be run until the DLC with the ovals comes to the Xbox One.

That said, what sort of series would you like to see? Personally, ones that come to mind are Tudor United Sports Car Series, WEC, British Touring Car, and DTM. One of these could fill the gap for me until IndyCar is possible, but others may have better ideas.

Please indicate below if you are interested and what sort of times you are available and which series' you prefer. We could follow the actual schedule of many a series, due to the timing of the release. Personally, if they get the ovals out before IndyCar starts, I'll probably turn my focus there, but nothing would prevent running another alongside.

The anticipation is killing me!

 

[Peter Hooper]

Speaking of...I need a volunteer to host in Europe. I'm doing a test run on Wednesday for North Americans only, and if we can get a European based host for Saturday (and Wednesday too, although I know it's short notice), then we will know. Based on that, we can either start on Saturday or run a practice race. The race would be 125cc Karts. Just like the start of Zero to Hero career. So, yes, to answer your question...we need to test ASAP. But we also need players to do so.

I'm still in Egypt Robert so nothing I can help with I'm afraid.

Can I just have some clarification on who would slot into what group in the proposed temporary league until things are fixed. I've no idea where the new guys are from so would be good to see a table showing who races where .

Any particular reason why karts.. Could it not just be the cars and track people were already running so it's a fair test against what you've already tried to see if it makes any difference?

I've pm'd you a suggestion about the race format too to try to get those outside the top six something to race for.

 

[Rob]

Was there anything in the patch notes, about multiplayer?

Here is info in the next patch. My bet is sometime this week. FFB addressed, but no mention of multiplayer (although I will say I was in a race tonight at Willow springs, public, and there were 10 of us and it ran smoothly). So, maybe there is still hope.

Project CARS –Patch 1.4 – Release Notes

General
* Pagani Monza Clubday invitational event - No longer causes the game to crash when using a specific livery on the Pagani Huayra.
* PC - Fixed an issue that would cause the game to crash while watching saved replays, when shared memory is enabled.
* PS4 - Anisotropic filtering has been increased to help reduce blurry textures.
* PS4 - Temporal anti-aliasing has been further optimized. This reduces the ghosting effect and additionaly gives the player full control via a slider to tweak the resulting image according to personal preference.

Performance improvements
* Xbox One - Various performance optimizations, adding up to an average of 5-6% performance improvement. This results in an overall smoother experience.
* PS4 - All shaders have been rebuilt using new shader compiler, giving a significant performance boost in some areas.
* PS4 - CPU performance gains due to new more aggressive code optimisations.

Physics & AI
* The AI loss of grip that results from tyre degradation as a result of wear is now more noticeable.
* The AI will now show much more realistic grip loss when running on slick tyres in the rain.
* First pass improvements on various tracks to enhance the AI performance and ability (Azure Circuit, Donington GP, Watkins Glen, Bathurst, Nordschliefe)

Pitting, tuning, setups
* Fixed an issue where certain street cars would pit for tyre change during rain when they already had the correct tyres fitted.
* Fixed an issue where custom vehicle setups were lost when progressing through sessions.
* Improved the system used to select the most appropriate tyres based on current and predicted weather conditions.
* Ensure that the AI always pit when they need to change tyres based on the weather conditions.
* The Default strategy will now correctly show the tyres that will be fitted on the player vehicle during a pit stop.
* The pit stop routine will no longer start during online races until the player closes the pit stop menu. This ensures that the player has enough time to select or configure an appropriate set of actions before the pit crew start working on the car.
* Tyre pressures will now be correctly set when the player changes to a new set of tyres.
* The currently-active Pit strategy will now remain in action when advancing through race sessions.

Online
* Fixed an issue where the player was sometimes given a large time penalty when exiting the pit lane.
* Fixed an issue where the remaining session time displayed an incorrect value in the Tuning screen.
* Fixed an issue that at times would prevent a player from entering a race, after joining a second online lobby.
* Fixed and issue where the Track Location popup would at times appear on some screens.
* PS4 – The lobby browser now displays random lobbies instead of always the oldest lobbies.
* PS4 – Fixed an issue where network features could not be used after resuming from rest mode.
* PC - The lobby browser now automatically extends the search distance for lobbies when not enough of them are found using the default filter. Lobbies that are hosted further away (and therefore have potentially worse latency to all peers) appear at the bottom of the browser, and are colour coded with yellow or orange icons do indicate the quality of the connection.
* PC - The session host now regularly sets the current timestamp into a session attribute, so that sessions with too old timestamps are not displayed in the browser. This prevents stale sessions with no active host from appearing in the session browser.
* PC - When joining a session, the client now attempts to request the member details multiple times before giving up. This helps to improve the success rate of joining online sessions.
* Xbox One – Fixed an issue where matchmaking was not filtering the race length correctly.

Controls – All platforms
* Fixed pedals and triggers that vibrates during replays.
* Fixed an issue that causes the wheel centring spring to be active during driving.
* Improved force feedback strength and tweaked the default force feedback parameters for all supported wheels based on community feedback.
* Further enhancements to the steering feeling – Improved blending between the tyre force spring and the steering lock spring.
* Improved behaviour of the wheel force springs while navigating the menu system.

Controls – PS4
* Fixed an issue where the player got stuck on the career screen when entering driver name using a wheel controller.
* Improved the support implementation of several older Fanatec wheels, such as the GT2, GT3, and CSR.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSS so that it works correctly in sequential mode.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSP pedals to save the calibration correctly if player calibrated only pedals.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSP ABS rumble.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSW handbrake.
* Game Pad - Tilt Control support implemented to allow controller tilt to be used to control the vehicles.

Vehicles
* Adjusted handbrake strength on vehicles which are equipped with handbrakes.
Fixed an issue where the rain wipers’ state did not reset correctly when restarting a session.
Fixed an issue where light glows from a vehicle behind the player would sometimes appear in front of the player.
* Fixed fuel pressure gauge calibration in several cars.
* Fixed an issue where a white border would at times appear around the brake light glow of certain cars.
* Ford Mk.IV – Improved the collision model to prevent vehicles wedging in under other vehicles.
* Formula Gulf, Gumper Apollo, Formula Rookie - Fixed and issue with the livery sets that caused the livery selection to display wrong liveries.
* Lykan Hypersport -Statistics updated to latest manufacturer specification.
* Lotus 72D - Improved handing characteristics, exposed bump stops to be adjustable in the vehicle setup, reduced cold sensitivities of the slick tyres, adjusted the AI speed, wear and rain tires to match the player’s experience.
* Karts - Reworked the Karts optimization to help address performance drops with a lot of Karts on track.
* McLaren 12C GT3 - Adjusted the vehicle pose to more closely match the real car.
* BMW M3 GT4 – Improved the accuracy of the levels at which the oil and water temperature warning lights will activate.
* Ford Escort RS1600 - Improved the collision and wheel contact model to prevent climbing over other cars in collisions.
* 250cc Superkart – Improved the default setup to address controller issues on higher speed tracks, and improved the AI handling.
* Lotus 49 – Improved the AI handling of the vehicle in corners and in close racing.
* Pagani Huayra - Reduced fuel consumption to around 3mpg in hard track use, and improved cooling to prevent engine overheating.

Tracks
* Bathurst – Removed cones in the pit lane that was causing cars to get stuck.
* Watkins Glen – Fixed a number of accuracy issues around the track.
* Lemans 24h – Improved the race line at a few corners to keep the LMP cars off the curbs as this was causing the cars to lean over on two wheels.
* Silverstone National – Vehicle grid placement reworked to more closely align with the painted start boxes.
* Hockenheim (various layouts) – Reworked the wet weather reflection mapping to address incorrect object reflections.
* Willow Springs – Fixed an issue where the vehicle could drive through the barriers when exiting the pits.

GUI
* Driver Network Profile - Visual tidy up to improve usability.
* Fixed an issue where very thin lines would not always appear.
* Added support for better info display on the Community Events page.
* Fixed the issue where HUD customization was not saved on exiting a session.
* Fixed an issue where the Potential Lap time display on the Lap Info board would be inconsistent with the sector times being displayed.
* Monitor/Spectate mode - Fixed an issue where the vehicle being viewed would automatically reset to the player’s vehicle on leaving the monitor screen.

 

[Rob]

I ran F1 for years, as did Peter. And Railer and I go way back in FM4. No problems there. I suspect they will get this ironed out.

 

[Rob]

Note that the Wednesday race has been changed to allow open signups. After all, until we can get all of us comfortably together, why bother? So, we will continue to test, and Karting is a fun way to do it. Check out the CLUB RACES for more information. I also moved the start time to 5:30pm U.S. EDT to accommodate those in Europe. We will try to cram as many people as possible in the room and see what happens, even if that means making it public. (Hopefully we will have enough interest to keep it private).

 

[Daniel Smissen]

I ran F1 for years, as did Peter. And Railer and I go way back in FM4. No problems there. I suspect they will get this ironed out.

were you all streaming on twitch, this obv uses quite alot of internet, may have kicked you out because by streaming it made your connections not strong enough??

 

[Michael Watts]

I wasnt streaming and I had major connectivity problems

 

[Michael Watts]

If there is any interest I would like to test out GT4 cars at some American tracks. Maybe see if there is something like a Continental tire series

 

[Rob]

were you all streaming on twitch, this obv uses quite alot of internet, may have kicked you out because by streaming it made your connections not strong enough??

I was not streaming.....

 

[Rob]

I think anyone can create a series Mike. To me, this game is not about American based cars stock cars, even though they exist in it. And the CTS would not be my pick (as I have already run one of these leagues on Forza, which was about right for that type of car), as you can tell from the league we are trying to run. I'm more into the FIA spec cars that are more technologically driven than the NASCAR partnered IMSA based cars (the game simply does not have many of these at the moment). Too bad what NASCAR did to the ALMS. It's still decent in the platforms that they kept from the old series, but they ruined the tech element from it to the point where manufacturers are going elsewhere.

 

[Peter Hooper]

Here is info in the next patch. My bet is sometime this week. FFB addressed, but no mention of multiplayer (although I will say I was in a race tonight at Willow springs, public, and there were 10 of us and it ran smoothly). So, maybe there is still hope.

Project CARS –Patch 1.4 – Release Notes

General
* Pagani Monza Clubday invitational event - No longer causes the game to crash when using a specific livery on the Pagani Huayra.
* PC - Fixed an issue that would cause the game to crash while watching saved replays, when shared memory is enabled.
* PS4 - Anisotropic filtering has been increased to help reduce blurry textures.
* PS4 - Temporal anti-aliasing has been further optimized. This reduces the ghosting effect and additionaly gives the player full control via a slider to tweak the resulting image according to personal preference.

Performance improvements
* Xbox One - Various performance optimizations, adding up to an average of 5-6% performance improvement. This results in an overall smoother experience.
* PS4 - All shaders have been rebuilt using new shader compiler, giving a significant performance boost in some areas.
* PS4 - CPU performance gains due to new more aggressive code optimisations.

Physics & AI
* The AI loss of grip that results from tyre degradation as a result of wear is now more noticeable.
* The AI will now show much more realistic grip loss when running on slick tyres in the rain.
* First pass improvements on various tracks to enhance the AI performance and ability (Azure Circuit, Donington GP, Watkins Glen, Bathurst, Nordschliefe)

Pitting, tuning, setups
* Fixed an issue where certain street cars would pit for tyre change during rain when they already had the correct tyres fitted.
* Fixed an issue where custom vehicle setups were lost when progressing through sessions.
* Improved the system used to select the most appropriate tyres based on current and predicted weather conditions.
* Ensure that the AI always pit when they need to change tyres based on the weather conditions.
* The Default strategy will now correctly show the tyres that will be fitted on the player vehicle during a pit stop.
* The pit stop routine will no longer start during online races until the player closes the pit stop menu. This ensures that the player has enough time to select or configure an appropriate set of actions before the pit crew start working on the car.
* Tyre pressures will now be correctly set when the player changes to a new set of tyres.
* The currently-active Pit strategy will now remain in action when advancing through race sessions.

Online
* Fixed an issue where the player was sometimes given a large time penalty when exiting the pit lane.
* Fixed an issue where the remaining session time displayed an incorrect value in the Tuning screen.
* Fixed an issue that at times would prevent a player from entering a race, after joining a second online lobby.
* Fixed and issue where the Track Location popup would at times appear on some screens.
* PS4 – The lobby browser now displays random lobbies instead of always the oldest lobbies.
* PS4 – Fixed an issue where network features could not be used after resuming from rest mode.
* PC - The lobby browser now automatically extends the search distance for lobbies when not enough of them are found using the default filter. Lobbies that are hosted further away (and therefore have potentially worse latency to all peers) appear at the bottom of the browser, and are colour coded with yellow or orange icons do indicate the quality of the connection.
* PC - The session host now regularly sets the current timestamp into a session attribute, so that sessions with too old timestamps are not displayed in the browser. This prevents stale sessions with no active host from appearing in the session browser.
* PC - When joining a session, the client now attempts to request the member details multiple times before giving up. This helps to improve the success rate of joining online sessions.
* Xbox One – Fixed an issue where matchmaking was not filtering the race length correctly.

Controls – All platforms
* Fixed pedals and triggers that vibrates during replays.
* Fixed an issue that causes the wheel centring spring to be active during driving.
* Improved force feedback strength and tweaked the default force feedback parameters for all supported wheels based on community feedback.
* Further enhancements to the steering feeling – Improved blending between the tyre force spring and the steering lock spring.
* Improved behaviour of the wheel force springs while navigating the menu system.

Controls – PS4
* Fixed an issue where the player got stuck on the career screen when entering driver name using a wheel controller.
* Improved the support implementation of several older Fanatec wheels, such as the GT2, GT3, and CSR.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSS so that it works correctly in sequential mode.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSP pedals to save the calibration correctly if player calibrated only pedals.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSP ABS rumble.
* Fixed the Fanatec CSW handbrake.
* Game Pad - Tilt Control support implemented to allow controller tilt to be used to control the vehicles.

Vehicles
* Adjusted handbrake strength on vehicles which are equipped with handbrakes.
Fixed an issue where the rain wipers’ state did not reset correctly when restarting a session.
Fixed an issue where light glows from a vehicle behind the player would sometimes appear in front of the player.
* Fixed fuel pressure gauge calibration in several cars.
* Fixed an issue where a white border would at times appear around the brake light glow of certain cars.
* Ford Mk.IV – Improved the collision model to prevent vehicles wedging in under other vehicles.
* Formula Gulf, Gumper Apollo, Formula Rookie - Fixed and issue with the livery sets that caused the livery selection to display wrong liveries.
* Lykan Hypersport -Statistics updated to latest manufacturer specification.
* Lotus 72D - Improved handing characteristics, exposed bump stops to be adjustable in the vehicle setup, reduced cold sensitivities of the slick tyres, adjusted the AI speed, wear and rain tires to match the player’s experience.
* Karts - Reworked the Karts optimization to help address performance drops with a lot of Karts on track.
* McLaren 12C GT3 - Adjusted the vehicle pose to more closely match the real car.
* BMW M3 GT4 – Improved the accuracy of the levels at which the oil and water temperature warning lights will activate.
* Ford Escort RS1600 - Improved the collision and wheel contact model to prevent climbing over other cars in collisions.
* 250cc Superkart – Improved the default setup to address controller issues on higher speed tracks, and improved the AI handling.
* Lotus 49 – Improved the AI handling of the vehicle in corners and in close racing.
* Pagani Huayra - Reduced fuel consumption to around 3mpg in hard track use, and improved cooling to prevent engine overheating.

Tracks
* Bathurst – Removed cones in the pit lane that was causing cars to get stuck.
* Watkins Glen – Fixed a number of accuracy issues around the track.
* Lemans 24h – Improved the race line at a few corners to keep the LMP cars off the curbs as this was causing the cars to lean over on two wheels.
* Silverstone National – Vehicle grid placement reworked to more closely align with the painted start boxes.
* Hockenheim (various layouts) – Reworked the wet weather reflection mapping to address incorrect object reflections.
* Willow Springs – Fixed an issue where the vehicle could drive through the barriers when exiting the pits.

GUI
* Driver Network Profile - Visual tidy up to improve usability.
* Fixed an issue where very thin lines would not always appear.
* Added support for better info display on the Community Events page.
* Fixed the issue where HUD customization was not saved on exiting a session.
* Fixed an issue where the Potential Lap time display on the Lap Info board would be inconsistent with the sector times being displayed.
* Monitor/Spectate mode - Fixed an issue where the vehicle being viewed would automatically reset to the player’s vehicle on leaving the monitor screen.

Just been reading about this myself over on VVV that's a hell of a lot of fixes, although not many specifically for the XBO. All credit to them for getting it to Microsoft so quickly Hopefully it won't be held up there for to long.

Good to hear of your Willow Springs race, do you know where people were based for that race?

 

[Peter Hooper]

I think streaming is going to be a no-no unless/until they really get this matter sorted out. But at least the replays can be saved for later uploading which is a positive.

 

[Daniel Smissen]

Good timing from the guys at A/C. will Pcars has messed up console here is the new contender

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-03-assetto-corsa-confirmed-for-xbox-one-and-ps4

 

[Michael Watts]

Wow that game is awesome but on PC. If they can port it over with less bugs than Pcars I may trade this game in for that one!

 

[Michael Watts]

Yeah I was just going to save my replay and twitch it later so I can have all my Bandwidth available to me.

 

[Rob]

That's great news, but a long way away. And even the PC version is not without critics when compared to pCARS on a PC. I'm beginning to think I need to get a PC.

 

[Rob]

We will try again this Saturday to run GT3 cars. If we are reasonably successful, we will go ahead and just chop through the schedule as best we can. Two things this post suggest we do to *maybe* improve the chances of getting more people on board:
1. Reset your router and modem prior to joining the game. (simply unplug and plug back in)
2. All start off in part chat. So, there will be no game invites unless you are in party chat first. I unknowingly took us all out of it last game. Indeed, we should not have to do this, but some say it helps. There have been some encouraging experiences posted since last week also, so maybe they are working on it behind the scenes.

 

[Peter Hooper]

Good timing from the guys at A/C. will Pcars has messed up console here is the new contender

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-03-assetto-corsa-confirmed-for-xbox-one-and-ps4

Yes I was just reading about that myself. Pressure on SMS to get their finger out now that's for sure.

 

[Peter Hooper]

That's great news, but a long way away. And even the PC version is not without critics when compared to pCARS on a PC. I'm beginning to think I need to get a PC.

I've been saying for some time that it's the way to go for real sim racing but of course unless you are happy tinkering around with them it's not as easy as a console.

 

[Rob]

NOTE: This race date has been reset. If you are interested in signing up please do so below this post and you will be added to the party conference first, then invited to the game.

(This will count as an official league race if everyone who signs up is able to race, regardless of the number of people signed up).

 

[Rob]

@xX wilabidd Xx
Please pick a number other than #72 for the Ruf, as that one is already taken. Thanks.