Cars [IER Simulations - Payware] IER P13c Prototype

RufGTI · Oct 11, 2019

Would be interesting to know how it competes against URD's Revolution/Rebellion car from the URD PX mod.

Andreas Knöpke · Oct 11, 2019

Surely a pointless comparison due to vastly different tires.

mclarenf1papa · Oct 11, 2019

Not sure you really want to hear my opinion on the physics of the PX cars, to be honest (or the Kunos cars, for that matter).

Gevatter · Oct 12, 2019

mclarenf1papa said:
Not sure you really want to hear my opinion on the physics of the PX cars, to be honest (or the Kunos cars, for that matter).

I take from this that they are not exactly favourable?

SunBro · Oct 12, 2019

mclarenf1papa said:
Not sure you really want to hear my opinion on the physics of the PX cars, to be honest (or the Kunos cars, for that matter).

Something something wrong amount of downforce on wrong sections of tracks something.

at least that's what i remember from the last time you explained it

mclarenf1papa · Oct 12, 2019

SunBro said:
Something something wrong amount of downforce on wrong sections of tracks something.

at least that's what i remember from the last time you explained it

Something something 20% power error, completely wrong tires, completely wrong aero, quite wrong suspension, very wrong CoG height, et cetera.

SunBro · Oct 12, 2019

mclarenf1papa said:
Something something 20% power error, completely wrong tires, completely wrong aero, quite wrong suspension, very wrong CoG height, et cetera.

My age must be catching up to my memory. Also, no wonder your prototypes drive VERY differently(positive) from kunos ones.

RufGTI · Oct 12, 2019

mclarenf1papa said:
Not sure you really want to hear my opinion on the physics of the PX cars, to be honest (or the Kunos cars, for that matter).

Actually - yes!

No. NO!

mclarenf1papa · Oct 13, 2019

Some more finishing touches.

NoseyGuyy · Oct 15, 2019

Every day that passes I want to drive this car more and more.

pls giv it 2 me now, u can hav all mah moneys

SunBro · Oct 15, 2019

Oh the price is another thing too. Will this be more than the usual 5 usd standard set by others? I'd be okay with paying more, considering all the effort that went into this one.

mclarenf1papa · Oct 15, 2019

It’ll be around 5 since the market’s restricting it to that.

edit: but you can pay anything you want above that, of course.

SunBro · Oct 15, 2019

mclarenf1papa said:
It’ll be around 5 since the market’s restricting it to that.

edit: but you can pay anything you want above that, of course.

Makes financial sense since there are still people( who clearly doesn't now iracing ) that complain even about 5 usd prices...

mclarenf1papa · Oct 15, 2019

SunBro said:
Makes financial sense since there are still people( who clearly doesn't now iracing ) that complain even about 5 usd prices...

Really, the reason it's like this is because of Kunos DLC. They could get away with very low prices because their market was far, far larger. Unfortunately, that means even though e.g. the P13 has had magnitudes more work put into it than any DLC car and most paid content (probably more than entire packs as far as physics are concerned), we can't charge much more than what everyone else is at. You look at iRacing and those prices are really a lot more reasonable for what you get.

mclarenf1papa · Oct 18, 2019

If you've always wanted to listen to a jet-lagged and fuzzy-headed me ramble about the car's systems, here's your chance.

Andreas Knöpke · Oct 18, 2019

Already watched an hour or so ago. NOICE

amphobius · Oct 18, 2019

I'll be quite happy to spare $12 as if I were buying a car in iRacing. This car deserves it.

Davide Nativo · Oct 19, 2019

mclarenf1papa said:
If you've always wanted to listen to a jet-lagged and fuzzy-headed me ramble about the car's systems, here's your chance.

Very interesting insight! A quick question, does the patch now take in consideration whether the engine is in a longitudinal or transversal layout, which quite affects the car dynamics? I don’t believe Kunos physics does that. It is a nice feature AMS and the original Dirt Rally (2.0 scrapped it for some reason) have and it adds to the car behavior.

mclarenf1papa · Oct 19, 2019

leon_90 said:
Very interesting insight! A quick question, does the patch now take in consideration whether the engine is in a longitudinal or transversal layout, which quite affects the car dynamics? I don’t believe Kunos physics does that. It is a nice feature AMS and the original Dirt Rally (2.0 scrapped it for some reason) have and it adds to the car behavior.

The main things that are changed with longitudinal vs. transversal (CoG position, moment of inertia, efficiencies, etc) are already accounted for by the physics engine of every sim. The minor differences (like torque reaction from inertia) are just that - minor, and are not present in AC or the patch.