Eight Things I Learned When I Switched to a Permanent Rig

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Their rig is every sim racer’s pride, no matter the shape, size or form. It may not be an absolute necessity – you can be fast even at your desk – but a proper setup can improve the experience immensely.

After years of using a combination of a wheel stand and an IKEA Poäng chair, I recently switched to a Sim-Lab GT1 Evo and learned a few things that I did not think of beforehand. Those points that stood out the most I have written down for you – here are eight things that I learned when I switched to a rig.

Building a rig is easier than I thought
If you have never worked with aluminium profile before, building a rig using the extrusions can seem complicated. However, the opposite was true for me: Theoretically, it is possible to build the rig by just using different size allen keys and no other tools – I do recommend having a toolbox handy, though. For me, a ratchet with the proper bits made assembly much easier, also because you can secure the bolts more tightly. This makes everything more stable in the end.

Washers are your best friend
Sim-Lab includes an enormous amount of bolts, angles and washers – more than you would need to assemble the GT1 Evo. That way, you have lots of accessories in reserve for later upgrades. Most connections are made via T-Slot nuts and bolts, but for some, washers make all the difference. The wheel deck is a great example for this: Without washers, there could be some flex to it, but with them in place, everything is much more secure.

Be careful with your phone!
As mentioned, aluminium extrusions are very sturdy – which is why you should keep an eye on your smartphones or other mobile devices during assembly. Sim-Lab does not provide printed build instructions but rather offers them as a download, which is why my phone now has a permanent souvenir from when I put everything together after putting down a piece of extrusion while not being careful enough. Might have been smart to print the instructions before getting started, but I did not think of that.

You can adjust it just the way you like
Aluminium profile is extremely flexible to adjustments. The position of anything you bolt on to it can be changed relatively freely, be it the position of the seat or pedal plate. There are no pre-drilled holes for bolts to fit into on the GT1 Evo itself, only on the pedal plate and the wheel deck to ensure compatibility with various hardware. This also means that you should be very precise when you build your rig so the bolts are just where you want them in the to prevent anything from being bolted on crooked.

It is less of a hassle
Every time I wanted to turn a few laps, I had to rearrange half the living room while still racing on a wheel stand: TV, coffee table, wheel stand and IKEA chair had to be moved to get set up and race. This was one of the things that was most annoying to me with my previous solution, but with a permanent rig, things are much more relaxed now. Switch on the PC, sit down and go racing – that is all there is to do now. That way, even short sessions are worth it now.

Better body position
A big advantage of the adjustability of the rig: It can easily be set up in a way that is comfortable to its user. Using the wheel stand and IKEA chair, I had always been sitting a bit stretched, my lower back did not touch the backrest. Moving the stand closer to the chair was not possible, as the position of the shifter on the stand made contact with one of the armrests. From time to time, I got out of the chair with a slight pain in my left knee, which had been pressing the middle pedal to brake and was, therefore, not straight, unlike the right leg. After switching to a rig, I have not had this problem once.

No flex means better FFB
On the wheel stand, I have used a Logitech G920 for a long time before upgrading to a Thrustmaster TS-XW. While the difference was very noticeable on the wheel stand already, mounting the TS-XW to the rig was night and day once again: Due to the wheel stand flexing horizontally, a lot of FFB detail was muted – which gave the wheel an entirely new dimension on the rig. Also, quick counter-steer movements work better when everything is firmly in place all the time – if that was not the case, my most recent upgrade to a Fanatec Podium DD2 and Venym Atrax 3 pedals would have been unthinkable.

Better overall driving feel
Thanks to being able to position a monitor close to your POV and the increased FOV this makes possible, vision during racing is much better, especially since I switched to an ultrawide monitor for the rig, so the effect basically doubled. It is easier to see apexes now, awareness is higher in general. Additionally, it is a great feeling to have when you know you can really mash the brake peal or that everything will remain exactly where it should be even after quick counter steer measures. This inspires a lot of confidence, too.

What were your observations when you first got a rig? Were there other surprises than the ones I have listed? Let us know in the comments!

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Lifelong motorsport enthusiast and sim racing aficionado, walking racing history encyclopedia.

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is there a reason people use aggressive bucket seats for sim rigs? i could see if you have a crazy motion setup but most dont. you arent experiencing g-force, so why be less comfortable? use a comfy stock seat from a car. personally, i found a seat from an nd miata. even has the sliders and tilts so it can easily accommodate other people, and i can slide it back to give me more room when im just chilling on the pc.
For the same reason you'd build a half-cockpit, or use the same control surface designs as in the real car.
 
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is there a reason people use aggressive bucket seats for sim rigs? i could see if you have a crazy motion setup but most dont. you arent experiencing g-force, so why be less comfortable? use a comfy stock seat from a car. personally, i found a seat from an nd miata. even has the sliders and tilts so it can easily accommodate other people, and i can slide it back to give me more room when im just chilling on the pc.
Yeah, thats why I'm also on a Poang. I've tried the bucket seats and they've all been uncomfortable for my lower back.
 
The problem with setup like these is that you need a dedicated PC that cannot be used for anything else (unless you RDP into it from a desk with another screen and keyboard).
 
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I can 2nd all the things you mentioned. I also build my own custom designed rig (inspired by various Sim Lab rigs) recently and it was tons of fun, many things learned. It also makes driving so much more fun because every thing is sturdy. Before I had a CSL Elite bolted to my (height adjustable) desk. And everytime I crashed, the monitor was almost thrown off the desk.

Also during the time in home office (because of the pandemic) I removed it from the desk and didn't find the motivation to mount it for a evening drive.

Sometimes I left it mounted (despite having to compromise for having enough space to work) I even didn't find the motivation to drive my office chair to the correct spot, and put some chocks under the wheels that the chair would not roll off while braking.

Now that I have the dedicated rig, I can get into it even in the lunch brake, enjoy a cruise or drive, refresh my mind, and then get back to work.

Also using a DD wheel now which I would have been too afraid to mount to my height adjustable desk.. And in this regard I'm also using load cell pedals now which makes the feeling for finding the right breaking point and trail braking much better.


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As you say, it is my whole pride for now.

It was the most fun project I ever did and I'm so glad I did. But I'll continue to have fun, because its not finished yet :) Some modifications to make it look better will be done in the next couple of weeks.

All cables will be hidden and I'll put panels on the floor frame and the feet frame.

Old screenshot from my CAD planning..so not up to date, but one can get the idea.

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The problem with setup like these is that you need a dedicated PC that cannot be used for anything else (unless you RDP into it from a desk with another screen and keyboard).


You're right. I'm keeping everything close together and hooked the rig up with a long display cable. I'm usually driving in VR though. But I'M still thinking about re-aranging the room to increase the usability. But unless you don't have your rig in a separate room I hope one can find a solution to connect the hardware although its not right next to each other.


For the same reason you'd build a half-cockpit, or use the same control surface designs as in the real car.

I didn't want a bucket seat with "ears" because I drive in VR and wouldn't be able to turn my head. Ok, in a proper GT3 car you can't turn your head as well but I'm also doing cruises in like road sportscars a lot. I found a seat from a Mercedes A-Class for a fair price. Its adjustable in every way and really nice and comfy to sit in. It was a good decision and I do not regret it. It doesn't take any of the feeling away imo.

Only important thing was, to position the seat and wheel in a way, that the wheel is in the right position when I'm in VR. At least when you drive GT3 or road supercars. For something like Formula 1 or a truck its off of course ;-)
 
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I got so much faster and consistent with a permanent rig. Stuff sliding away or moving just slightly takes away the ability for muscle memory to really take hold...braking feels more like second nature now and not a guessing game. Also, I find it inspires me to want to race more often...years ago when it was pulling the G27 out and clamping it to my office desk and trying to wedge the pedals and my chair into a somewhat stationary spot, I'd have to really be in the mood to go through the motions...not anymore.

The problem with setup like these is that you need a dedicated PC that cannot be used for anything else (unless you RDP into it from a desk with another screen and keyboard).

Not true with my setup, I use it for everything. My rig is in my home office (about 2 feet/60 cm from my office desk) and they both face the same direction. The PC is right behind them and in the middle. I'd take a picture but in here is messy as hell right now...but I don't think any of the display cables are longer than 10 feet. Pretty much all modern GPUs support having 4 monitors connected, so I do just that: 3 monitors at the rig and 1 on the desk.

I use Nvidia cards and have gotten along just fine with Nvidia Surround (despite the bad rep it gets): You figure out which monitor port is the primary one (the one the BIOS displays on) and make that the desk monitor. Then setup surround with the other 3. After that you just have to press Win + P to switch between the two setups and you're good. It can get even better with a little ingenuity: with a few programs, a couple smart plugs and an Amazon Echo, I can now switch between both setups by voice (including turning on the wheel, speakers and fans). Say the magic words and everything switches over in 10 - 15 seconds max (the last 5 seconds is just waiting on the wheel to calibrate); more than enough time to put on shoes and hop in the rig.

Work, watching TV, browsing the net and single screen controller or keyboard/mouse gaming are done at the desk. Anything involving a wheel or a joystick is done at the rig. I've gone from teaching an online class to running an online race in record time with this setup...but not gonna lie; it took quite awhile to program everything and get it just right, but it's so satisfying every time I fire it up :D
 
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I can 2nd all the things you mentioned. I also build my own custom designed rig (inspired by various Sim Lab rigs) recently and it was tons of fun, many things learned. It also makes driving so much more fun because every thing is sturdy. Before I had a CSL Elite bolted to my (height adjustable) desk. And everytime I crashed, the monitor was almost thrown off the desk.

Also during the time in home office (because of the pandemic) I removed it from the desk and didn't find the motivation to mount it for a evening drive.

Sometimes I left it mounted (despite having to compromise for having enough space to work) I even didn't find the motivation to drive my office chair to the correct spot, and put some chocks under the wheels that the chair would not roll off while braking.

Now that I have the dedicated rig, I can get into it even in the lunch brake, enjoy a cruise or drive, refresh my mind, and then get back to work.

Also using a DD wheel now which I would have been too afraid to mount to my height adjustable desk.. And in this regard I'm also using load cell pedals now which makes the feeling for finding the right breaking point and trail braking much better.


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As you say, it is my whole pride for now.

It was the most fun project I ever did and I'm so glad I did. But I'll continue to have fun, because its not finished yet :) Some modifications to make it look better will be done in the next couple of weeks.

All cables will be hidden and I'll put panels on the floor frame and the feet frame.

Old screenshot from my CAD planning..so not up to date, but one can get the idea.

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Looks very nice. How are the uprights attached to the low 80/80 pieces? However it is, it's hidden. Bolted from the rear ? Similarly the pedal deck uprights....
 
Looks very nice. How are the uprights attached to the low 80/80 pieces? However it is, it's hidden. Bolted from the rear ? Similarly the pedal deck uprights....

Thank you. It was important for my personal esthetics not to have any visible connector brackets.

That is why I used those, tehy are called automatic connectors.

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They are super rigid, more than the connector brackets:


But in the process I learned that once you tighten up the base frame (for example of the pedal deck) it will be impossible to move and adjust any of the cross beams connected with these bolts even when you losen them. You have like a margin of a hundred of a millimeter in length and the cross profiles will jam in the base frame when you try to adjust them.

This is why I had to shorten the cross profiles where the pedals themselves sit on by one millimeter and connect them with brackets. But this will be covered by the panel soon, so I don't care.
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I hope by the end of next week, the panels will be on and I'll also put covers caps on all the nut grooves in the profiles.
 
Myonly comment is that it is a better idea to have a better rig as better wheel / pedals.
If you can only do it step by step i will recommand to go first for the best rig you can offer you, then pedals, and the wheel.

A good rig is essential to maximise the joy and immersion in simracing.
A lot more than the best wheel or pedals.

Of course a nice wheel and pedals are a big plus too.
(I personally have Rseat RS1, clubsport v3 pedals, csl dd + MC laren v2 wheel, clubsort shifter. Alimentaire wide monitor)
+1 ^_^
Starting with the rig, then good pedals, then the wheel !
All other pieces are options for better immersion, but rig and pedals are the most important things to push your limits and getting good pace :)

Cheers
 
is there a reason people use aggressive bucket seats for sim rigs? i could see if you have a crazy motion setup but most dont. you arent experiencing g-force, so why be less comfortable? use a comfy stock seat from a car. personally, i found a seat from an nd miata. even has the sliders and tilts so it can easily accommodate other people, and i can slide it back to give me more room when im just chilling on the pc.
It depends on the rig quality, a real car seat is way heavier than a bucket one.
And honestly, the immersion is not the same when you are too comfy ^_^ !

The next immersion step is to get your room at the same temperature than a racecar cockpit o_o ...
 
I can 2nd all the things you mentioned. I also build my own custom designed rig (inspired by various Sim Lab rigs) recently and it was tons of fun, many things learned. It also makes driving so much more fun because every thing is sturdy. Before I had a CSL Elite bolted to my (height adjustable) desk. And everytime I crashed, the monitor was almost thrown off the desk.

Also during the time in home office (because of the pandemic) I removed it from the desk and didn't find the motivation to mount it for a evening drive.

Sometimes I left it mounted (despite having to compromise for having enough space to work) I even didn't find the motivation to drive my office chair to the correct spot, and put some chocks under the wheels that the chair would not roll off while braking.

Now that I have the dedicated rig, I can get into it even in the lunch brake, enjoy a cruise or drive, refresh my mind, and then get back to work.

Also using a DD wheel now which I would have been too afraid to mount to my height adjustable desk.. And in this regard I'm also using load cell pedals now which makes the feeling for finding the right breaking point and trail braking much better.


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As you say, it is my whole pride for now.

It was the most fun project I ever did and I'm so glad I did. But I'll continue to have fun, because its not finished yet :) Some modifications to make it look better will be done in the next couple of weeks.

All cables will be hidden and I'll put panels on the floor frame and the feet frame.

Old screenshot from my CAD planning..so not up to date, but one can get the idea.

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I've been thinking of a proper 8020 rig for a while now, current on a simetik with a standalone 8020 monitor stand. The only thing stopping me making a custom rig is the pedal tilt and height adjustments - what connectors are you using for any off angle connections?
 
Trackracer have a inverted pedal mount for aluminum rigs which I am using on my TR80 rig , it works very well and has lots of adjustments.

I can recommend the Track racer aluminum profile rigs , my TR80 is rock solid with my DD1 wheelbase and HE Pro pedals.

I don't actually understand the need to go to the TR160 as there is absolutely no flex on my TR80 and if you are concerned about it you can always add extra extrusions easily.

Just don't touch their metal tubing rigs as they have way too much flex ( I had the RS6 Mach2 and it was crap ) with very limited adjustability.
 
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I've been thinking of a proper 8020 rig for a while now, current on a simetik with a standalone 8020 monitor stand. The only thing stopping me making a custom rig is the pedal tilt and height adjustments - what connectors are you using for any off angle connections?

While I was figuring out good ergonomics for me (couldn't plan it that good ahead because I had no data for the Mercedes A-Class seat I'm using, I got rid of the vertical columns that were initially planned to make the pedal frame adjustable in a wide range

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If they make sense for one, depends on your size, chair, how you mount the wheelbase etc... At that point, it was planned to fix the pedal frame from below like this:

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While the right "bracket" is a hinge bracket to make adjusting the angle easier.. because its a fixed axis, and you only have to losen the brackets on the left side to be able to swivel the whole frame up.

But since I got rid of the vertical columns, my current solution looks like this:

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I had my doubts that it would be stiff enough with only 2 brackets on each side, that are close to each other... but it is extremely rigid. No flex whatsoever even when I chose the highest setting on the loadcell pedals.
 
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i am currently using the exact same ikea chair with a gtomega wheelstand classic, csl dd and csl elite pedals and it works like a charm for me, i have absolutely no problems adjusting everythnig so my sitting position is a mix between formula racing and gt style.
of course a proper rig is the best option but two things currently stand in my way 1) i dont have the space for it currently as i live in a pretty small apartment still and 2) the wheelstand cost me 120 bucks whereas the proper rig will come in at a higher cost plus a somewhat ok chair that should not be less comfortable than the ikea thingy...all of which i am not yet ready to go to.
but as soon as i will move out and will be able to afford a bigger place a proper rig will be pretty high up on the list.
 
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I can 2nd all the things you mentioned. I also build my own custom designed rig (inspired by various Sim Lab rigs) recently and it was tons of fun, many things learned. It also makes driving so much more fun because every thing is sturdy. Before I had a CSL Elite bolted to my (height adjustable) desk. And everytime I crashed, the monitor was almost thrown off the desk.

Also during the time in home office (because of the pandemic) I removed it from the desk and didn't find the motivation to mount it for a evening drive.

Sometimes I left it mounted (despite having to compromise for having enough space to work) I even didn't find the motivation to drive my office chair to the correct spot, and put some chocks under the wheels that the chair would not roll off while braking.

Now that I have the dedicated rig, I can get into it even in the lunch brake, enjoy a cruise or drive, refresh my mind, and then get back to work.

Also using a DD wheel now which I would have been too afraid to mount to my height adjustable desk.. And in this regard I'm also using load cell pedals now which makes the feeling for finding the right breaking point and trail braking much better.


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As you say, it is my whole pride for now.

It was the most fun project I ever did and I'm so glad I did. But I'll continue to have fun, because its not finished yet :) Some modifications to make it look better will be done in the next couple of weeks.

All cables will be hidden and I'll put panels on the floor frame and the feet frame.

Old screenshot from my CAD planning..so not up to date, but one can get the idea.

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I love how clean this set up is. My cable management has a long way to go!
 
The problem with setup like these is that you need a dedicated PC that cannot be used for anything else (unless you RDP into it from a desk with another screen and keyboard).
Not necessarily. My machine doubles as HTPC for 75% of the time. When I go racing i just have role the rig (which is set on caster wheels) into place, plug in the power and the USB. Then it's just a matter of shutting down Kodi and start iRacing and put the Rift on, and off we go :D Works like a charm, without any issues what so ever. Obviously this isn't a solution for everyone in every situation, but for me this works perfectly for now.
 
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The problem with setup like these is that you need a dedicated PC that cannot be used for anything else (unless you RDP into it from a desk with another screen and keyboard).


My sim rig pc is my main pc with good desk for traditional pc activity, good quality 5M USB and displayport/HDMI cables are your friend
 
Thank you for your first two lines, we all can't afford the space to have the optimum set up but it's nice to see it in here among the aliens...LOL
 
So I added some panels to make the whole rig less skinny and have more comfort for the feet when you're sitting there, not using the pedals (tweaking a cars setup or whatever). The panels are called DiBond. Its a composite that has a plastic core and 2 thin sheet aluminium layers on the outside. They are available in many colors and styles. I chose the style/looks of brushed stainless steel.

Love the result!!! But it is a bit difficult to catch on a photo because of the reflections:

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