F1 | Is Hamilton Past His Prime?

Do you think Hamilton can continue dominating F1 over the next few years?


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Hamilton will be on his prime while his car is on its prime huhu. Same cars for everyone and we will see WHO is on his prime! F1 is a bit boring from decades ....better follow the GT3 action :D
 

Blkout

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He's still the best driver in the field. Even with Ferrari having a better car the last two seasons, he's still came out on top. Let's not forget that had his car not broke in Malaysia in 2016, he would have beaten Nico as well and have 7 championships right now. Lewis wins not only because of his talent but he's incredibly consistent, even when he loses, he's in the mix at the top 3. He just has a way of turning it up and focusing when he needs to win.
 

Sasha Jednak

Sasa Jednak
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He's still the best driver in the field. Even with Ferrari having a better car the last two seasons, he's still came out on top. Let's not forget that if he didn't mess up his starts multiple times in 2016, he would have beaten Nico as well and have 7 championships right now. Lewis wins not only because of his talent but he's incredibly consistent, even when he loses, he's in the mix at the top 3. He just has a way of turning it up and focusing when he needs to win.
One fix above.
Other one, when he loses let's not forget that he was always in top3 in 2010-2013. :rolleyes:
He is one of greatest talents, but god he is not. :thumbsup:
 
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madhopz

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Well, when you KNOW that you'll be far ahead of the competition without even pushing yourself or the car, it's EASY to be cool and calm and make no mistakes. Mistakes happen when you push too hard. Come on fellas it's common sense ok? I'm pretty sure you're all simracers, you know better.

The CAR in F1 plays a MASSIVE role, this is why Senna was always working with the team that had the BEST car. He wouldn't settle for a decent car, he wanted the car that would dominate. The difference with Senna, (that nobody shouldn't even dare to compare hamilton to) is that he could make any car a championship winning one. Did Hamilton ever do that? Nope. He jumped straight into a very good McLaren, won a title, then nothing, until he went to Mercedes which was already developing a car ahead of everybody else, behind the scenes. He's the "champ" ever since.

Hamilton is as good as any of these guys on the grid. He always was, but he will never be any better. Like it or not, it is the car that allows him to be king. He's not a setup guru, he never had any special connection with the team or the mechanics or his teammates. He's not developing the car, he's just driving it.

Also,numbers don't mean anything to me. I value drivers based on their performance AND character on their best AND worst days, and Hamilton simply doesn't even exist on my scale. I value Massa, Webber and Kimi a LOT more than Hamilton or even Schumacher. As for his salary.....well...Hamilton being black, bad boy gangsta,fashion icon with HUGE sponsors on his back.....yeah he's worth a LOT, but not because of his skills as a driver.

This is the real world people. I apologize for bursting your pink bubble but...it's the truth.
If you honestly believe he wins because of the car that is scary. Vettel had a car for 2 years, didn't win. Vettel had a car for 4 years, did win. LeClerc had a car, didn't win. Bottas has the same car as Hamilton, did't win. Get it right, in any effort, I don't care what it is, to become a champion you have to execute properly over and over again. At that level they all have raw talent. If you don't execute you are just a talented loser. Hamilton wins because he is better than his competition, period.

The driver passed his prime is Verstappen. Been on the grid for 5 years with just a handful of wins.
 

FFF789

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I think questions like these are more of a "we wish he's past his primetime" type and subcontext lol but anyway it sparks a discussion. So no, I don't think he's past his prime time for a couple of more years. It will be when he stops caring enough about it. Plus, you can be talented as much as you want but you don't win a championship in a shitty car. And he has a top car with him so it's even easier. On his whining, I assume it's just his way to dampen the blow he strikes on his opposition, on the bored F1 fans again and his haters after every convincing top finish he delivers. The same goes for Mercedes. And it's boring, let's face it. I'm sure that over time they both got a number of requests from the F1 owners to tone it down a bit sometimes. Think of tickets and TV rights sales. And remember Schumi's domination, the only guys since J.M. Fangio... seven titles altogether, but five titles in a row 2000-2004. It takes a while for someone to show up and beat all that and I think Lewis is locked on to that target. For me this was similar with Dale Earnhardt>Jimmy Johnson thing in NASCAR a while ago. People were really pissed about Jimmy's consistency sometimes.
 

Blkout

2000RPM
One fix above.
Other one, when he loses let's not forget that he was always in top3 in 2010-2013. :rolleyes:
He is one of greatest talents, but god he is not. :thumbsup:
Nope, the DNF in Malaysia cost him the championship in 2016. The loss of points in that race became too much to overcome at that point. That was completely outside of his control.


Lewis went on to win 4 of the last 5 races and came up 5 points short to Nico. There's a good reason in my opinion that Nico retired after 2016, he knew Lewis was the better driver and he knew he got lucky winning that championship and it wasn't going to happen again. I think Nico chose to go out on top rather than try to defend the championship the following year.
 
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Damage Inc

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The CAR has a far bigger role in Lewis's dominance.

People say Schumachers/Ferrari dominance.....but only 2 of his 5 Ferrari championships were 1-2. On the other hand Lewis/Mercedes dominance has seen 3 1-2 finshes and when he lost to Nico that was also a 1-2 for the team so 3 out of his 5 WDCs for Merc were 1-2. but 4 overall. Merc's dominance is FAR more of a factor than Ferrari's.

Schumacher moved to a struggling Ferrari and with Brawn and Todt built them up to be champs. Lewis however benefitted from the engine rule change. If engine rules had stayed the same he wouldn't have had so many titles.

also Schmahcers titles were in an era of much less safety (schumacher broke a leg one year....what's the worst injury Hamilton's had? Has he even HAD an injury?), and much less car reliability.
 
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Tberg

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If you honestly believe he wins because of the car that is scary. Vettel had a car for 2 years, didn't win. Vettel had a car for 4 years, did win. LeClerc had a car, didn't win. Bottas has the same car as Hamilton, did't win. Get it right, in any effort, I don't care what it is, to become a champion you have to execute properly over and over again. At that level they all have raw talent. If you don't execute you are just a talented loser. Hamilton wins because he is better than his competition, period.

The driver passed his prime is Verstappen. Been on the grid for 5 years with just a handful of wins.
For a second, I was with you on the Hamilton-part. Then you mention Verstappen is passed his prime, and lost everyone. The guy has never been better, which 2019 statistics backs up. He's had arguably only the 3rd best alround car on the grid for 3½ years, and after he started to mature during late 2017 season, the only thing keeping him from a title is an underperforming engine compared to Merc and Ferrari, albeit Honda surprised everyone in 2019. I'd say his prime has just begun.
 

madhopz

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For a second, I was with you on the Hamilton-part. Then you mention Verstappen is passed his prime, and lost everyone. The guy has never been better, which 2019 statistics backs up. He's had arguably only the 3rd best alround car on the grid for 3½ years, and after he started to mature during late 2017 season, the only thing keeping him from a title is an underperforming engine compared to Merc and Ferrari, albeit Honda surprised everyone in 2019. I'd say his prime has just begun.
I was kidding :)
 
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