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Andrew_WOT

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Is it really fair to compare generic engine like UE4 that only provides graphics and audio options, and the rest you need to code yourself, with specialized racing one like Madness that in theory has everything to just add content you like.
 

Tony

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Why is everybody comparing this to a scratch made game? Reiza didn't code the graphics engine, or the physics engine, or the audio engine, etc....
AMS2 is basically a standalone payware mod for PC2; kinda crazy that it would have this many bugs/rough edges months after an early access release.
Despite all this, they are known as

Hmmmmmm.......
I thought i had you on the ignore list years ago, time to remedy that!
 

norbs

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Why is everybody comparing this to a scratch made game? Reiza didn't code the graphics engine, or the physics engine, or the audio engine, etc....
AMS2 is basically a standalone payware mod for PC2; kinda crazy that it would have this many bugs/rough edges months after an early access release.
Despite all this, they are known as

Hmmmmmm.......

And once again you prove you are a shill for Kunos. Maybe educate yourself before making outlandish claims.

Lets not forget the shitshow that ACC was at release. And is to this day in VR.
 
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That's the season pass.
 
The game is progressing well and I'm enjoying a lot doing offline races in it. Some combos are really fun to drive.

The most important thing that is lacking to me now is a better multiplayer enviroment - it needs fixes and more features.

This game has a big potential. Reiza is aware of the things that need to be fixed, and of the features that the community want to be added. I have faith they will do it.
 
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Is it really fair to compare generic engine like UE4 that only provides graphics and audio options, and the rest you need to code yourself, with specialized racing one like Madness that in theory has everything to just add content you like.

agree, all the other game engines don't provide a tire model SETA or what its called in Madness engine... thats the issue Reiza has to adjust it to their liking... Kunos had their own tire model brought to the Unreal engine or physics core data if you wanna call it.

I would love to have ACC on Madness engine but without hat tire model ;) As it would bring at least good VR performance back... but maybe there is a VR fix around the corner for Unreal who knows. :p
 
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I feel exactly the same. More to the point, I don't see anything trollish about this statement.

If someone has spent hard earned money on a product that they feel falls short of expectation, what would you expect their opinion to be? Yet you ridicule it as "sh!t posting" because it doesn't line up with the popular opinion. Quite pathetic but totally expected.

The "AMS2 enthusiasts" on this forum have done more harm to this title than any bug or glitch.

Theres nothing trollish at all about it. People on here these days seem to love to attack others for having a different opinion to the one they have.
 

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What would have helped AMS2 is healthy conversation where problems and issues are discussed openly without people having to defend every word but oh well, never mind.
The Reiza forums are full of conversations about issues and bug reports and Renato Simioni and other beta testers have often replied here, politely and trying to give answers.
 
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But nowadays it seems that some have a very enhanced sense of entitlement, a decided lack of appreciation coupled with already prejudiced view because of the game engine used.

That's an assumption, you know nothing about me mate.

very enhanced sense of entitlement? Go on, I'm listening. I've lived in one of the poorest parts of the country all my life. I really don't feel entitled to that much.

a decided lack of appreciation? We should appreciate paying money for something selling itself as a simulator with physics that defy the laws of physics? I've already stated clearly in another post that i have nothing but love for Reiza after AMS1.

I have no prejudice whatsoever with the chosen engine. I fully understand the decision to go with SMS, Renato stated his case quite clearly. With this knowledge I made the decision to purchase with my own money. Doesn't sound very prejudiced.

The last time i picked up AMS2 within half a lap in a strange car, on a strange track, in a strange sim i was powersliding and drifting like a king...in an F3, hardly the drifters choice. There is something fundamentally flawed with the physics of this thing. More than just tyre adjustments or FFB.

But rather than start a conversation that might be useful for something, you end up wasting time and effort replying to people that feel you shouldn't bring an opinion to a forum. And then people wonder why its a hot mess with falling player numbers. Oh well, you can only try.

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Goffik

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What would have helped AMS2 is healthy conversation where problems and issues are discussed openly without people having to defend every word but, never mind.
Which works both ways, in case you hadn't noticed. The discussion would also be "helped" if people didn't keep bad-mouthing AMS 2 based on nothing more than the history of a totally unrelated sim.

It would be further helped if people just stuck to their own opinions instead of criticising each other for having said opinions, positive or negative. There's nothing wrong with defending something you like from people who don't like it, and there's nothing wrong with criticising something you don't like regardless of how many people do like it. But when people start criticising each other, that's what turns a discussion into a pointless petty argument.

That's an assumption, you know nothing about me mate.
Speak for yourself. At no point was that comment by Kenny aimed at you personally, nor did it even suggest you fall into the "some" he was talking about. Yet you immediately assumed he was talking about you personally and get all funny about it.

That's another issue against discussion these days... "some" people insist on taking everything personally, even when it's blatantly not intended that way. :rolleyes:
 
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