Have Your Say – VR or No VR?

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Do you race in VR?


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Sim racing is a perfect gaming format to experience with VR, but some in the sim community are very pro-VR while others are holding back. Have your say in the comments below on whether VR is for you, and why.

A good Virtual Reality sim racing experience is hard to beat, but technical limitations and limited developer support has slowed the growth of VR. So, we want to hear from you. Is VR worth having for sim racers in 2021?

While the global stats on its use on Steam puts the percentage of VR in the single digits, most sim racing polls put the percentage of users who at least own a headset in the 25-35% range. Even with this high level of VR owners, many high-profile racing franchises such as F1 and WRC have yet to implement official VR support. Other sim titles like Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2 and RaceRoom have supported VR for years, and are enjoyed by thousands of sim racers around the world.

For many in the community, VR is the only way to sim race. This crowd even has a slogan: “No VR, No Buy”. Undoubtedly, there aren’t any more immersive or exciting ways to experience sim racing visually than to virtually control the head of the driver. The first sim racing experience in VR is something most people don’t quickly forget. Sitting virtually in cars most of us will never get to drive in real life at a track most of us will never get to experience is undeniably cool.

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Contrast the above list of pros with some known shortcomings of VR, and you end up with a divided set of opinions. Among those who have tried VR sim racing and moved on, two of the common complaints are that the video appears grainy and the frame rate is too low. Both issues can be mitigated with higher end hardware, but the cost of such hardware is prohibitive to many. A byproduct of a lower framerate in VR is often motion sickness. Motion sickness can occur in VR at any frame rate, but it’s more common with sub-90 FPS experiences, and makes Virtual Reality impossible for some.

It’s also possible that we’re only in the infancy of VR, and the next generation will improve the visually quality and frame rate even on affordable GPUs and HMDs. Other than flight simulators, no gaming format takes advantage of a VR view quite like racing simulators. If the demand for VR continues from racing gamers, the developers will hopefully look to make support more commonplace in future titles and improve the experience in kind.

So, we want to hear from you. Do you use VR? What keeps you coming back or keeps you away from VR, and what do you think the future will hold for VR sim racing?
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Mike Smith
I have been obsessed with sim racing and racing games since the 1980's. My first taste of live auto racing was in 1988, and I couldn't get enough ever since. Lead writer for RaceDepartment, and owner of SimRacing604 and its YouTube channel. Favourite sims include Assetto Corsa Competizione, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Automobilista 2, DiRT Rally 2 - On Twitter as @simracing604

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Kinda ironic seeing as CSP launched via CM runs better than vanilla. Not by terribly much, but by a bit. Sounds like a configuration error to me.
No it doesn't. Using CSP bricks AC on both of my machines to the point I need to delete and reinstall AC to get it running again.

That's on two different systems with the minimum installed - Just for giggles I tried it on a Mac as well with Windows installed and the same thing happened. AC will simply not launch, or freaks out when CSP is installed.
 
No it doesn't. Using CSP bricks AC on both of my machines to the point I need to delete and reinstall AC to get it running again.

That's on two different systems with the minimum installed - Just for giggles I tried it on a Mac as well with Windows installed and the same thing happened. AC will simply not launch, or freaks out when CSP is installed.
"Sounds like a configuration error to me."

There's a number of things you could be doing wrong, or maybe you're the one user out of the few million who has a catastrophic failure with it no matter what.
 
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I converted from flat screen to VR when Samsung Odyssey announced
  • bezels in center of dual monitors was too distracting
  • single screen FoV was too narrow
    • unable to see thru corners
    • head tracking would have help..
  • apparent changes in size/distance on flat screens with minor head movements was confusing and distracting
  • mostly Assetto Corsa and solo driving; VR performance has not been an issue
    • GTX 1080Ti and HP Reverb G1
    • Odyssey is OK, but Reverb's higher resolution is compelling
  • no cognitive dissonance with office chair and wheel stand in VR
  • active harness tensioning provides credible motion cues.
On the other hand
  • SteamVR + SimHub + Content Manager + WMR + Sim Commander 4 + USB = issues and hassles
    • frequently reverting to flat screens for debugging
    • aggravated by different eyeglasses for VR than flat screens
 
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Every VR tool I tested gave me migraine headaches so I don't use it.

I have made a little money selling them more expensive than I bought them.

However, the greatest sensation that I have taken from a simulator was when I tried the HRT simulator. ACC and rFactor2 are nothing compared to something like that. Sadly, I don't think I will ever repeat some sensations in a simulator like the one I experienced that day. I suffered from physical fatigue in just less than four laps.
 
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Just putting together a nice cockpit, using my 51" Samsung Plasma
3D TV. Will try 3D on TV and will use my friends VR for comparison
in my games. Still hoping for some VR progress though.
Cheers,
Ivan # 106
Take good care of your 3D TV. Nobody on the whole planet produces new 3D TVs. They suddenly vanished from one day to the other.
I understand that many didn’t like 3D TVs but hey, unbelievable that not a single company produces it anymore. There are many niche products being produced for niche customer, why not a single 3D TV?
 
No it doesn't. Using CSP bricks AC on both of my machines to the point I need to delete and reinstall AC to get it running again.

That's on two different systems with the minimum installed - Just for giggles I tried it on a Mac as well with Windows installed and the same thing happened. AC will simply not launch, or freaks out when CSP is installed.
Actually, you should probably buy AC on Steam. CSP will crash if you're not running the latest version ie: if you run a crack.
 
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"Sounds like a configuration error to me."

There's a number of things you could be doing wrong, or maybe you're the one user out of the few million who has a catastrophic failure with it no matter what.
A configuration error on 3 different systems with different hardware configs? OK my 2 main PCs are i9900k 2080ti all ASUS setups, so I thought maybe there might be a hardware incompatibility, but on my iMac which uses a really old i5 4 core and a hobbled version of the RX580 I get exactly the same. One of the PCs was completely fresh installed as was the Mac.

It couldn't be an issue with my steam account, could it?

Actually, you should probably buy AC on Steam. CSP will crash if you're not running the latest version ie: if you run a crack.

I just noticed this - you're a cheeky bloody wanker for implying that I would actually rip software when I've often stated on here that I buy stuff I don't even play because I want to support the dev

Go forth and multiply.
 
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A configuration error on 3 different systems with different hardware configs? OK my 2 main PCs are i9900k 2080ti all ASUS setups, so I thought maybe there might be a hardware incompatibility, but on my iMac which uses a really old i5 4 core and a hobbled version of the RX580 I get exactly the same. One of the PCs was completely fresh installed as was the Mac.

It couldn't be an issue with my steam account, could it?



I just noticed this - you're a cheeky bloody wanker for implying that I would actually rip software when I've often stated on here that I buy stuff I don't even play because I want to support the dev

Go forth and multiply.
Yes, probably a config error. I don't know what exactly Steam stores on the cloud but it might be storing some broken stuff hence why other setups crash too. You should try to delete your Assetto Corsa folder in Documents then try again. Usually it's either that, or not running on latest AC ie: crack.

Also make sure CM and AC are installed in the same drive. I'm not positive but IIRC there was some issue if you install them on separate drives. CM also requires some permissions; you might be a power user with very strict permissions that by-default block it which causes CM to **** the bed.

Judging by how mad you are, it just might be cracked AC after all, but I'll just assume it's not if you say so. :rolleyes:
 
I can't see very well without my glasses, so VR is sadly a no go for me... :( Visually impaired people probably can't use VR if they have to wear glasses all the time...

I got prescription lens adapters for my G2, they work super well and there is no hassle as you just take your regular glasses off and put on the headset (with the adapters).

My rig is VR only, so no VR no buy... ;)
 
For me VR was just an inconvenience after the first couple of hours of pure wonder and awe. It's just a gimmick when you got used to it.
 
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Wasn't there a post/featured forum thread about this only 6 months or so ago?
If you haven't noticed, RD has been adding posts like this for a while now just for click baits. Nothing ever comes out of posts like that, just more clicks.
These are forum post level:
What’s Your View on Driving Views? Mike Smith
Which Racing Title Got You Into Sim Racing? Mike Smith
What Else Do You Sim? Mike Smith
Like come on dude.
 
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My plans have changed. Thanks Terry!
I dont know which way your mind has changed but just beware, the CV1 is quite a low resolution headset by todays standards. So saying you can achieve good results is similar to saying you can get good results on a screen, provided you run it at 720p.

You are unlikely to buy something like a CV1 and its resolution so make sure you research how your card might power what you do want to get.
 
VR all the way.

No way going back to single or even triples for me.

You need a powerful rig though and be prepared to finetune settings even on premium graphics HW.

I never had issues with motion sickness, i can drive for hours even with framerates around or below 60.

What bugs me is being totally cut off from the outside world and not really being able to type in the chat.
 
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I don't care for VR.

I find VR to actually limit the amount I race. I had VR for few months, before selling it because I like the ease of just sliding behind my rig and racing.

Also with creating content for YouTube, developing mods with my Casual Sim Studios team, etc. I have to switch out and between programs on my computer constantly.

Finally, I wear glasses. And that is another issue with VR. The fogginess and the uncomfortable nature of having glasses squished against your head is no fun.
 

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