Have Your Say – VR or No VR?

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Do you race in VR?


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Sim racing is a perfect gaming format to experience with VR, but some in the sim community are very pro-VR while others are holding back. Have your say in the comments below on whether VR is for you, and why.

A good Virtual Reality sim racing experience is hard to beat, but technical limitations and limited developer support has slowed the growth of VR. So, we want to hear from you. Is VR worth having for sim racers in 2021?

While the global stats on its use on Steam puts the percentage of VR in the single digits, most sim racing polls put the percentage of users who at least own a headset in the 25-35% range. Even with this high level of VR owners, many high-profile racing franchises such as F1 and WRC have yet to implement official VR support. Other sim titles like Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2 and RaceRoom have supported VR for years, and are enjoyed by thousands of sim racers around the world.

For many in the community, VR is the only way to sim race. This crowd even has a slogan: “No VR, No Buy”. Undoubtedly, there aren’t any more immersive or exciting ways to experience sim racing visually than to virtually control the head of the driver. The first sim racing experience in VR is something most people don’t quickly forget. Sitting virtually in cars most of us will never get to drive in real life at a track most of us will never get to experience is undeniably cool.

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Contrast the above list of pros with some known shortcomings of VR, and you end up with a divided set of opinions. Among those who have tried VR sim racing and moved on, two of the common complaints are that the video appears grainy and the frame rate is too low. Both issues can be mitigated with higher end hardware, but the cost of such hardware is prohibitive to many. A byproduct of a lower framerate in VR is often motion sickness. Motion sickness can occur in VR at any frame rate, but it’s more common with sub-90 FPS experiences, and makes Virtual Reality impossible for some.

It’s also possible that we’re only in the infancy of VR, and the next generation will improve the visually quality and frame rate even on affordable GPUs and HMDs. Other than flight simulators, no gaming format takes advantage of a VR view quite like racing simulators. If the demand for VR continues from racing gamers, the developers will hopefully look to make support more commonplace in future titles and improve the experience in kind.

So, we want to hear from you. Do you use VR? What keeps you coming back or keeps you away from VR, and what do you think the future will hold for VR sim racing?
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Mike Smith
I have been obsessed with sim racing and racing games since the 1980's. My first taste of live auto racing was in 1988, and I couldn't get enough ever since. Lead writer for RaceDepartment, and owner of SimRacing604 and its YouTube channel. Favourite sims include Assetto Corsa Competizione, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Automobilista 2, DiRT Rally 2 - On Twitter as @simracing604

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VR still a VERY tiny % of users.
Motion Platforms: Super Teeny Tiny infinitesimal incredibly small % of the user base.
According to Marcel in the latest Competition Blog, They have no plans to address VR as an individual upgrade. They will migrate any overall graphic upgrades to VR, but no further improvements seem like they are coming.
Small percentage yes, but not for car simulations, there are a lot of simracers that use VR, I think 30% from a survey on our favorite site, right? Maybe I'm wrong...
Afterwards, given the democratization of prices and the rise in the quality of games and equipment, there are more and more lambda players who buy headsets, especially the Oculus Quest 2, Not very expensive right? 350 euros / dolards usable without PC for funny little games or with PC with an overpriced cable, or with a wifi router 6! So you can play the best PC games wirelessly without any loss of quality, it's great and revolutionary.
Warning! Find out well before purchase.
 
Sorry to hear that my friend, I understand what you're saying. When something bad imprints on our mind, it's very hard to wash it out.
Wish you all the best buddy, have a long and healthy life!
Thanks for the kind words, and same wishes to you! :)
 
Sorry to revive this but as I’m rebuilding a rig I’d like to add a perspective - apologize if covered already. I can’t swear I’ve read every post thoroughly. For my new rig the intent was to go VR only. I bought a reverb G2 - so cool. I am a bit faster but the problem is that I cant seem to kick the motion sickness. I’m trying- looking at and trying several of the tips. Still nausea and headaches for me. So without abandoning VR, I’m adding a triple monitor setup for a couple reasons. First so I can jump in and race quickly without getting sick and and I do like messing around with sim hub displays. As I said I’m not giving up on VR. I ordered prescription inserts and have a new computer on the way that will likely help the frame rate. Also considering a seat mover which is fun whatever your display. I’m just thinking that if it’s not financially irresponsible of you to do so, using both triples and VR is fine.
 
Sorry to revive this but as I’m rebuilding a rig I’d like to add a perspective - apologize if covered already. I can’t swear I’ve read every post thoroughly. For my new rig the intent was to go VR only. I bought a reverb G2 - so cool. I am a bit faster but the problem is that I cant seem to kick the motion sickness. I’m trying- looking at and trying several of the tips. Still nausea and headaches for me. So without abandoning VR, I’m adding a triple monitor setup for a couple reasons. First so I can jump in and race quickly without getting sick and and I do like messing around with sim hub displays. As I said I’m not giving up on VR. I ordered prescription inserts and have a new computer on the way that will likely help the frame rate. Also considering a seat mover which is fun whatever your display. I’m just thinking that if it’s not financially irresponsible of you to do so, using both triples and VR is fine.
Hi, sure there was a fix to horizon button which killed the motion sickness for me
 
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You might try a Ginger pill half an hour before getting into VR.
It took me about 5 days of half an hour a day to get past that with a non-motion, non-tactile system.

I had someone on my rig last week who drove for 90 minutes straight. He said he had a tiny twinge in his stomach after that time, but that it wasn't bad. He had tried out VR before Covid for a short while. So I think that was pretty good. The current motion queues and tactile do make a difference.
 
Sorry to revive this but as I’m rebuilding a rig I’d like to add a perspective - apologize if covered already. I can’t swear I’ve read every post thoroughly. For my new rig the intent was to go VR only. I bought a reverb G2 - so cool. I am a bit faster but the problem is that I cant seem to kick the motion sickness. I’m trying- looking at and trying several of the tips. Still nausea and headaches for me. So without abandoning VR, I’m adding a triple monitor setup for a couple reasons. First so I can jump in and race quickly without getting sick and and I do like messing around with sim hub displays. As I said I’m not giving up on VR. I ordered prescription inserts and have a new computer on the way that will likely help the frame rate. Also considering a seat mover which is fun whatever your display. I’m just thinking that if it’s not financially irresponsible of you to do so, using both triples and VR is fine.
It is very important to turn off any camera movement and fix the view to horizon, secondly try circles without many curves to start with, curves are worst. Maybe an oval track or so. It will go over, you just have to work through the initial time period.
 
Better to avoid tight turns with your F15 while looking downwards to the ground :)
 
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I'm so happy I've got rid of nauseousness in the times of PSVR years ago. The best way to get used to VR is to start with third person view games like moss or astrobot and slow paced first person shooter or walking simulator. And always try to get constant 80Hz or above. Your brain has to break the link between visual and physical movement. It is just training.
I've started with wipe out VR from the PSVR Mega Pack and that was a very bad idea. 20min and it felt like the worst hangover I've ever got for over 3h. Today I can drive F1 cars in AC or fly F16 in Project Wingman without any problem. :)
 
It is very important to turn off any camera movement and fix the view to horizon, secondly try circles without many curves to start with, curves are worst. Maybe an oval track or so. It will go over, you just have to work through the initial time period.
I have to disagree with this, as it's an extremely personal preference of the brain itself.
In my case, lock to horizon option had always been giving me serious nausea on a monitor, let alone VR.
I can only drive with lock to horizon turned off.
For me, it feels way more natural to have a static cockpit/dashboard with the world bouncing around.
It took some time to adjust to a shaky world, but now I can drive for hours without a single motion sickness hint.

My advice - Prototype style car on Lemans.
Take it very slow and as soon as you start feeling sick, take a break, DON'T push it, it'll only get worse.
Once the sickness is gone, go back, even for a 5min stint. Repeat and repeat.
If you do it like I said, the motion will evaporate, trust me.
 
Sorry to revive this but as I’m rebuilding a rig I’d like to add a perspective - apologize if covered already. I can’t swear I’ve read every post thoroughly. For my new rig the intent was to go VR only. I bought a reverb G2 - so cool. I am a bit faster but the problem is that I cant seem to kick the motion sickness. I’m trying- looking at and trying several of the tips. Still nausea and headaches for me. So without abandoning VR, I’m adding a triple monitor setup for a couple reasons. First so I can jump in and race quickly without getting sick and and I do like messing around with sim hub displays. As I said I’m not giving up on VR. I ordered prescription inserts and have a new computer on the way that will likely help the frame rate. Also considering a seat mover which is fun whatever your display. I’m just thinking that if it’s not financially irresponsible of you to do so, using both triples and VR is fine.
Oddly enough I don't really get any motion sickness when racing in VR, but I get it BAD on any other VR experience (Aircar, Skyrim VR, etc.) so I can only do those in short spurts, but I also find that eating before going in helps me out.
 
Sorry to revive this but as I’m rebuilding a rig I’d like to add a perspective - apologize if covered already. I can’t swear I’ve read every post thoroughly. For my new rig the intent was to go VR only. I bought a reverb G2 - so cool. I am a bit faster but the problem is that I cant seem to kick the motion sickness. I’m trying- looking at and trying several of the tips. Still nausea and headaches for me. So without abandoning VR, I’m adding a triple monitor setup for a couple reasons. First so I can jump in and race quickly without getting sick and and I do like messing around with sim hub displays. As I said I’m not giving up on VR. I ordered prescription inserts and have a new computer on the way that will likely help the frame rate. Also considering a seat mover which is fun whatever your display. I’m just thinking that if it’s not financially irresponsible of you to do so, using both triples and VR is fine.
Hi, I had the same problem. But managed to stop the motion sickness by turning off camera shake in settings.. Now the only way I can drive is in VR.. Hope this helps??
 
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This is my second post on this thread. It appears to be two trains of thought with VR and motion sickness. Some say lock to horizon some say not to. The post two or three up the page nails it when he says he cannot drive with lock to horizon. I know we are all different but he says he feels fine when the world is quote, bouncing around. Well, the world does not do that thankfully and our brains are tuned into that fact. Lock to horizon every time and you will adjust in no time at all.
 
Next level rig, buttkicker, Reverb G2 and T 300 w F1 Rim is the most fun I’ve ever had gaming. PERIOD. I started gaming with an Atari 2600 close to 40 years ago. If you don’t like sim racing in VR , you haven’t given it a chance.
 
All - thanks for all the VR motion tips. I do appreciate the support this community provides. In the past or recently I've tried lock to horizon on/off. Ginger. Short stints just until I start to feel motion sickness coming on. Ceiling fan right above me on. I think at least partly responsible is my vision. Progressive lens glasses are hard to keep focused - at least for me. I do better with my contacts in but again they are multi-focal and not optimized for a single focal length. Last week I had an eye exam and got a fresh prescription from the Doc. As mentioned I ordered a set of lens inserts for the G2, using the numbers the Doctor gave me - actually asked him to fill in the exact parameters the VR lens insert folks need. I received notice the lenses have already shipped so they should be here next week or the following. I am anxious to give those a try. Also, right now due to my previous rig/desktop being destroyed just over a year ago, I'm using a gaming laptop right now with a 2070. Not bad but certainly not optimal. I plan to download a utility to see what framerate I'm actually getting in VR. And I have another prebuilt PC on order that should be here early December. Normally I build my own but we all know the availability/cost issues with graphics cards. I was able to buy a fairly decent PC with a 3080 for less than the cost of a 3080 (scalper prices - not list) - about $2200 USD when I ordered a few weeks ago - haven't checked prices recently. I'm hoping this also improves framerate/clarity, etc. Even so I view this as an interim PC that I'll use to get me by until more and better Graphics cards become available - fingers crossed. At that point it becomes the wife's.
 
If you wanna separate yourself from life - use VR. It s really a non-social, egoistic equipment. Can t and won t do it with family or/and friends
You're on race department reacting to threads and you're saying it's non social equipment? Hahahaha
 

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