Ginetta G55 GT4 2017 V1.1

Ginetta GT4 with BOP

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  1. Shaun Clarke
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    I present the Ginetta GT4 2017 version. This is not to be compared to the Supercup version.

    The difference is as follows:

    It is heavier,
    Lower rear wing
    50bhp more and more Torgue
    Full GT lights, pits and racing
    Hard Tyres Only

    With help of @Ross Macfarlane I have tried to match BOP with the Porsche and Maserati as close as possible. In real life ( FIA or MSA) the BOP changes on every track for the Ginetta, so I did ask you all and you said what you wanted, so hopefully we have done that.

    This is a new fresh install.

    Credits to:
    Textures After Midnight
    Lods by Dreamer
    Skins by their original owners
    Testing by @Ross Macfarlane

    Any issues please let me know in the support thread

    Shaun

Recent Reviews

  1. VCR
    VCR
    3/5,
    Version: V1.1
    Virtual Car Reviews - Ginetta G55 GT4 2017 V1.1

    This is hopefully the first of many detailed and thorough reviews of car mods for Assetto Corsa. I decided to start with the Ginetta G55 GT4 by Shaun Clark as we were thinking about the possibility of running it in a league with the Porsche and Maserati. Below is my thoughts:

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    3D Model:
    Perhaps the highlight of this mod is the 3D model, specifically the exterior and a few select areas in the interior.
    Exterior - Polyflow looks extremely professional, use of ‘fake-chamfers’ is comprehensive, and density seems spot on. This would be 5/5 in isolation.
    Interior – Unfortunately this is where things start to take a turn for the worse. It appears that whoever was responsible for modelling the exterior so beautifully suddenly became unavailable, as the interior is in a different league. The centre console, dash and door frames/sills seems to be the only redeeming areas of the interior model. Elsewhere the detail is extremely low, lacking chamfers, lacking in accuracy (pedals, roll cage welds non-existent, steering wheel etc are all prime areas very visible from the driver seat).

    3D Model Result: 3/5 (Great exterior for the most part, poor interior)

    Textures/Shaders:
    Exterior – For the most part this is ok, with the skins looking reasonably decent. Some small issues like not enough margin/padding on the AO bake (most visible at the rear edge of the doors), as well as the fact the exterior shader does not make use of a proper RGB map based on the AO bake – which means you have a flat amount of reflection throughout which leave darker areas too shiny.
    Few small areas such as the exhausts are lacking AO altogether to my eyes.
    Interior – Much like the 3D model, the quality of texturing is significantly worse on the interior. Most objects lack any proper AO bakes or RGB maps, which only emphasises the lack of detail in the mesh.
    Parts such as the metal foot board really suffer from lack of AO, and are extremely bright in VR, and the steering wheel/column look very flat which is a shame given they are so close to the drivers view. The bright coloured buttons/cabling next to the fire extinguisher are also very bright in VR and lack any real textures.
    All of the above texture issues would almost be forgivable if it results in a very small, optimised file size, though the next section shows this unfortunately is not the case.
    Elsewhere there are a few priority issues such as the black window borders looking through the door glass.

    Textures/Shaders Result: 2/5 (Acceptable exterior but poor interior)

    Optimisation:
    File size - 70MB/60MB for the LHD/RHD respectively – This is not great considering the level of texture detail is low, ideally to justify this the file size should be significantly lower than the Kunos standard of around 42MB.
    LODs – Only 3 LODs (A,B,C), which would be fine if they were especially efficient whilst still to keeping great visual continuity. Unfortunately this is not the case, in fact these LODs are very poor indeed.
    LOD A from a tri count perspective is fine – well within the limit, though at ~240k tris, I do wonder where they are being spent, as the interior mesh is severely lacking in detail.
    The LOD B and Low Resolution interior mesh is particularly troubling, as instead of reducing the density of the polys, is seems the only effort has been deleting a few objects (brake calipers for example on the LOD B) The LOD B sits at around 125k tris (should be around 30k).
    However the LOD C is by far the worst, coming in at around 75k tris (!) with almost no interior (making it possible to see the track through the windows). A typical LOD C should be less than 15k tris, and with the lack of a LOD D we have nothing that comes close to a low object 3k tri model for long distances.
    Combine that with the fact the LR interior doesn’t appear until around 40m (LR Interior should be around 7m with the B coming in at 12m), you end up with a grid of full fat LOD A’s, and the ones that have switched to LOD B’s are not much better for performance.
    Frankly this is unacceptable for a V1+ mod, as performance is very poor as a result.
    In order to test this I ran a full grid at Barcelona with the Porsche Cayman GT4 as the benchmark. The overall tri count on the grid was ~8million vs the ~3.7million of the Porsche. FPS was around 20% lower for the Ginetta.

    Optimisation Result: 2/5 (1 would be no LODs at all, at least that effort has been somewhat made).

    Physics:

    Ideally this car should match the laptimes of the Porsche and Maserati GT4, and thankfully it does (within reason, track depending etc).
    I do however feel that despite overall laptimes being very similar, the ease in which you can reach them is significantly easier in the Ginetta than the other two rivals. The Ginetta seems to have endless longitudinal grip, making traction and braking zones far easier to perfect, whilst the much lower power seems to be the only thing keeping them balanced.
    I don’t necessarily dislike that, having cars that excel in some aspects and struggle in others is fine, though the disparity seems too large for my liking (though that is understandably subjective – I don’t have definitive data that says otherwise).
    Aero seems well balanced and offer realistic levels. Similarly the setup options seem good and exactly what I’d expect from a car of this nature.
    Elsewhere there seems to be a few small issues, namely the fact tyre wear in the Ginetta is not dependent on load like every Kunos car is these days.
    Autoclutch seems to not only be implemented poorly (race starts are much slower than the other 2 GT4 cars), but seemingly unnecessary given this has a clutch pedal (either the model or the physics is wrong in that case).

    Physics Result: 4/5 (Performance seems realistic though the manner in which it does so seems suspect).

    SFX:
    I’m not particularly well qualified to judge SFX – usually most sound fine to me. In this case I have no issues, nothing outstanding but perfectly acceptable.

    SFX Result: 4/5

    Other Comments:
    Steering animation could use some work, appears as if the driver has learned how to use ‘the force’ at points.
    Pit stops seem incredibly unbalanced compared to the Kunos GT4 cars, with just 7 second tyre changes vs the Porsche and Maserati’s 20 seconds. Additionally body repair takes half the time, and engine repair takes twice as long, meaning longer races can very quickly become very unbalanced.

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    Conclusion:
    Whilst I had high hopes that this would at least provide variety/filler for the GT4 class, I’m afraid the poor optimisation and unbalanced pit options put a stop to that, which is a great shame as there are some very promising aspects of this mod – notably the exterior 3D model is high quality and the overall laptimes are in the right ballpark for the class. Unfortunately a few major and many minor faults have soured the overall taste.
    It remains to be seen whether the Supercup version resolves these issues, being much more popular I have hope that is justified – I’m expecting to test and review it soon.

    3D Model: 3/5
    Textures/Shaders: 2/5
    Optimisation: 2/5
    Physics: 4/5
    SFX: 4/5

    Overall Result: 3/5

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    Next Up:
    The recently released Dodge Viper by A3DR from the NFS Tournament Class B pack.
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Thank you so much for that detailed review. This mod was never going to be up there, as this one was what the community asked for, and was an after thought due to popular demand.

      It was never going to match the Porsche and Masertai perfectly, as in the GT world, there is just to many variations on BOP delivered by the FIA on a per circuit basis.

      The inside of the car, is actually very basic (as I sat in one), there is no fancy button box or gadgets as such.

      This was basically the Supercup Version, with a couple of changes that the GT had (Lower Rear Wing, Side Exhausts), tyres bla bla. When I spoke to a Ginetta Team that run both the Supercup and GT versions and told them what I wanted to do, they said two words....Good Luck, which explains a lot.

      But again, thank you for your detailed review, and looking forward to many more.

      Shaun
  2. Zuendel
    Zuendel
    4/5,
    Version: V1.1
    As i tested it a couple of times at Nordschleife Endurance with
    other GT4 cars, it happen often that one of the ginettas stops
    driving at the end of Adenauer Forst chicane an than quits the
    race. Maybe an AI-Bug? Besides that a Top Car Mod!
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      If only 1 car stops, I cannot change that, as they all use the same AI information
  3. stormcat13
    stormcat13
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    Fantastic work ... Thanks mate
  4. kingdomblues
    kingdomblues
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    woow (i m speechless)
  5. hazardic
    hazardic
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    found a bug..upon replay start the driver is above the roof being in center
  6. Carlos Jr
    Carlos Jr
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    Awesome! Thank you so much!
  7. milka39
    milka39
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    nice
  8. Jordan Dion
    Jordan Dion
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    Wow!
    Almost perfect :)
    My only cons is the very strange idle sound ???
    fit perfect whit all other gt4 cars
    very fun to drive!

    what the difference between LHD and RHD?
    Thx
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Sound is as it is I am afraid, this is not being developed anymore as the amazing Fonz has stopped working on sounds.

      LHD / RHD the difference is where you sit. AC doesn't calculate the weight distribution, so this was done purely because this is what IRL drivers asked.

      Hope that explains everything, but thank you for you comments
  9. ltcars
    ltcars
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    Good God, I forgot to rate this. Here they are, well deserved. I like the challenge and reward theme this car is having
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Cheers mate
  10. Dreamliner
    Dreamliner
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    Still perfect. Thanks for this masterpiece !
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Thank you Deamliner
  11. Jack.A.Lope
    Jack.A.Lope
    5/5,
    Version: V1.1
    Shaun I just had a feeling you wouldn't be able to bear too many sleeps knowing those rear brake calipers could cause an accident ;) While true it doesn't make any difference in the handling of the virtual car, my mind had me filled with fear of nose diving ass over eyeballs whenever I punched the brake pedal hard! So, yeah, you did well, mate :) thank you! Beautiful models this and the SuperCup!
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Thank you Jake...always aim to please and you Sir, even after all these years of it being released, spotted it LOL
  12. thepharcyde
    thepharcyde
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    This car at Thruxton makes you feel like you're racing the supporting race used for BTCC.

    The car is very planted - I feel it could be a lot looser but no idea what it's like in real life?
  13. kingdomblues
    kingdomblues
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    very fun car, well done and a pleasure to drive
  14. Bahger
    Bahger
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    I love this mod. It is such a welcome addition to the stock GT4 field. I have driven the Cayman GT4 CS a lot and I really enjoy the contrast; the Ginetta is less tail-happy and has to be driven in a whole other way better suited to fast cars with a bit more understeer, a bigger engine and more weight. I ran against it in a 20-lap race against the AI at Brands Hatch; it is just as much fun to dice with as it is to drive. Here is the entire race; it's as good and as close, a racing experience against the AI as I have had on AC. You will see that I provide links to the download in the video comment. Thanks again. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjZwymMzJh0
  15. Jack.A.Lope
    Jack.A.Lope
    4/5,
    Version: V1,0
    Very nice models and I would have given you 5 stars, but... the rear brake calipers are mounted behind the rear axle? Same on that Ginetta Supercup that was out a few months ago if I remember correctly. That just ain't right ;)
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Thank you for your comments . Blimey out of the ,000's of people that have downloaded this and the Supercup over the last year and beyond and only you spotted that..I need to sack everybody :)

      Doesn't warrant an update in my eyes, as it's really not a game breaker, doesn't effect the handling or physics but maybe in the future with other updates we can change this.

      Shaun
  16. Dreamliner
    Dreamliner
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    It´s one of my alltime favourites. Still great work in all aspects of this car mod. Thanks to everyone who was involved.
  17. Zombie Boy
    Zombie Boy
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    After driving your old G55 GT4 since release, it's great to finally see this update. It has been my go-to GT4 car since the first time I got behind it's wheel and now its even better :)
    One downside - I'm really missing that 7-Up paint job from the old version! Any chance of re-adding this in your next update or providing us with the skin?
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
  18. Max Melamed
    Max Melamed
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    The mod handles like a dream, the sound is MEGA and the FFB very good! Has to be one of the best mods in AC!

    Sadly, at least around nordschleife, the Ginetta appears to be A LOT faster then the Cayman GT4. I can go around 10 seconds quicker in the Ginetta with basically stock settings. My time in the Cayman GT4 is a 8:37 on the Nordschleife Endurance Cup layout and with the Ginetta I am easily going sub 8:30...

    Maybe some adjustements are still needed here BOPwise.

    But hell you guys did an awesome job on that car!
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Excellent feedback Max thank you, will look in to it.
  19. Paul Jeffrey
    Paul Jeffrey
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    Tops as always Mr. C - Well made car! Awesome :)
    1. Shaun Clarke
      Author's Response
      Thank you Mr PJ
  20. Colnem
    Colnem
    5/5,
    Version: V1,0
    Excellent job. Thanks to share