Tracks Thruxton 2.02

[McGherkin]

I'll take anything driveable!

 

[Ruston]

Thanks for the superb track mod. Castle Combe would be fantastic!

 

[Cyberwiz]

@James Skinner Is there a possibility the track limits at the last chicane can be fixed? It's possible to basically cut the entire left-hander completely, gaining more than 1s of laptime. The image below shows just how much can be cut.

 

[Tebb]

Ditto on the track limits update/fix required for the final chicane please @James Skinner -

This is causing headaches for trying to steward in a league setting

Ideally the actual track limits are updated to match the AI splines outer boundaries as laid out in this screenshot:

 

[James Skinner]

Yep I'm aware of that issue - when I get some time I intend to put some tyre stacks there as they have IRL... (I imagine that will lead to a lot of premature race finishes!)

 

[Tebb]

Yep I'm aware of that issue - when I get some time I intend to put some tyre stacks there as they have IRL... (I imagine that will lead to a lot of premature race finishes!)

Legend, thanks James.

That could be a quick-fix / simple solution. Or perhaps bollards? Like seen in this IRL vid from 2014:

Whilst it might be 'cleaner' to have track limits in place, I'd be happy with a physical obstacle too, -- rather than have grumpy guys moaning about peeps 'cheating' during quali or race --- or burdening the stewards with reviews and penalties to dish!

 

[Cyberwiz]

Something I didn't mention was the fact that the cut still results in a valid laptime being set. Fixing that in my view would be the first prize.

 

[Cyberwiz]

I've done some further digging and looked into editing the track. While fixing the track limits would be ideal, I do see the green is part of the object. Splitting the two should aid in creating the separation needed to enable assigning different surface types to each component. I also noticed that in your "surfaces.ini" file you have a "CURB" surface defined, but it doesn't look like it is used anywhere on the track. See the surface definition below:

[SURFACE_4]
KEY=CURB
FRICTION=0.88
DAMPING=0
WAV=kerb.wav
WAV_PITCH=1.9
FF_EFFECT=1
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=1.5
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0.9

If it is unused, you could set the physics values to the same as the "KERB" surface that's been assigned, essentially allowing you to define 2 kerb types. One will serve the purpose of defining track limits, the other can define the purpose of kerbing that don't form part of the track limits (through the use of the "IS_VALID_TRACK" flag).

 

[James Skinner]

Yes on the previous version I think it was tighter although it's a tricky spot to add time penalties as the fact that the finish line is a relatively short distance after meant it was easy to get sent back to pits for not observing the slowdown - I think I'm favouring a tyre stack as they have for the BTCC races:

 

[Cyberwiz]

Aaah! Now I understand the reason for the forgiving track limits! If I can make a suggestion, I'd say rather make multiple layouts. One that foregoes the tyre stack in favour of strict track limits.

Some leagues don't use AC's track penalty system, so we don't have the risk of getting a DQ due to cutting. It does mean that for quali we don't need to actively monitor track limit abuse if there's more strict track limits. Leagues preferring to host servers with AC's penalty system can do so then

 

[ShinyAndy]

It's timely that this has come up as we're having a league race on this track on Sunday. We've run it before and had all manner of cheaters I know next to nothing about track modding but noticed in 3DSimEd that the middle bit of the chicane (that causes the problem) is called 1KERB_CLUB2 and it includes the big bit of tarmac that gives the advantage. As a quick and easy fix to invalidate cheaty laps, would just adding that to surfaces.ini and setting IS_VALID_TRACK to 0 mean people would have to completely avoid that kerb? Or are all the kerbs using the same KEY?

 

[James Skinner]

I think of you do that any touch of the kerb would invalidate the lap but I don't have time to try at the moment....

 

[ShinyAndy]

Yeah it would, I need to try it and see if it is possible to get through there properly without touching the kerb!

 

[James Skinner]

I need to add the barriers I think - as soon as I get time I'll try to update....

 

[James Skinner]

James Skinner updated Thruxton with a new update entry:

Thruxton 2.02 - Fix for cutting at Final Chicane

Have added a tyre stack to stop people cutting the final chicane - as there are often battles into that corner there is still space to avoid the barrier (which could end your race) but there will be a 3s time penalty...

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[ShinyAndy]

Massive thanks James

 

[Budaiya]

Hi, After the latest update, all the track and grass textures have gone really grainy.
I run everything pretty much maxed. CSP 0.1.78 on an i9-11900k / 3080ti
No issues before or currently on any other track
Have tried unistall/reinstall of the track, CSP

Hoping someone has an idea for a fix ?
Thanks for any help, suggestions

 

[James Skinner]

Hi, After the latest update, all the track and grass textures have gone really grainy.
I run everything pretty much maxed. CSP 0.1.78 on an i9-11900k / 3080ti
No issues before or currently on any other track
Have tried unistall/reinstall of the track, CSP

Hoping someone has an idea for a fix ?
Thanks for any help, suggestions

Hi, not seeing that here, also on 1.78 preview1 - can you share a screenshot?

 

[Budaiya]

Hi, not seeing that here, also on 1.78 preview1 - can you share a screenshot?

Hi, attached are two images, the screen shot is in game, but doesn't really show the grain, so attached one from my phone looking at the screen. (ignore the brightness)

I guess its a peculiarity to me only, but if you have any suggestions would be great.

Thanks for any help

 

[James Skinner]

Have you tried in vanilla AC? - there are so many weird bugs in CSP that it could be anything really!