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Do one 20 minute race, and get the second 20 minute race totally free
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Yes please Ernie, I'm interested to see what the opposite differences are in particular, thank you!@Medilloni Although my setup is in the same street as yours, there are some noticeable differences.
i am about 3 tenths faster with mine, could be i am trying harder with my setup.
With all this talk about driving and setups with Rasmus, would you like me to post mine,
as to compare, tried to integrate things in your setup that were opposite to mine, and went
slower.
would be interested in your input anyway. it up to you
Yes please Ernie, I'm interested to see what the opposite differences are in particular, thank you!
Also this is my first time racing with a FWD car, this one has more grip for acceleration out of corners than I was expecting. I guess I was expecting to find it like driving my irl car with an open diff... one tyre fire out of every roundabout
Your timing is good Callum!I downloaded your setup and tried it out John (being as I am not at all good at setups), found it worked quite well and the only real change I made was to remove all toe. I don't know about anyone else but in AC I've always found having toe bad on setups other than as a last resort for stability under braking. Can anyone confirm if this sounds right or if I'm just having a placebo against it?
Yes please Ernie, I'm interested to see what the opposite differences are in particular, thank you!
) usually, just enough to get the results i require. Mainly because i understand, as explained above, the reality of the situation.
Unfortunately I'm having to work tomorrow, as I did last Sunday
..so get yourself on the grid
I am not very good at setups, but I tried yours. I think I changed the brake bias because it seems I can manage it better that way. I did test some other camber values using CamberExtravaganza app, but even if I changed it until all the wheels were almost green, the lap times were actually slower ... weird thing. Maybe I don't know how to use the app properly
Maybe there was some frustration because I don't know how they are able to do a setup well in 1 hour and I spend 3 on practice and I still don't get it right. Maybe I want too much from too fast. I should understand that most of you have years of sim or real-life racing experience. I barely have 5 months@Raresch
i notice, if i read between the the lines in your question a sense of frustration.
maybe i’m wrong, but anyway....
Beware extended waffle and the stating of the bleeding obvious.......
There are some very knowledgeable people on this forum, who have the advantage of information,
people to ask or discuss things with, maybe they have race engineering experience, maybe experience
in race team environment, Strong knowledge of the actual physics and the implementation of the
“this” type of software. This with the either the modding community or a sim company like AC,
or all of it.!!! ( probably missed a lot more out too )
You and i have none of the above, the only difference is i have a bit more experience, but exactly the
same problems. But i do have a pot of variables ( camber, toe, tyre pressures, diff, gearing ) at
my disposal. I also have unlimited track time. With those two i have build up a knowledge base and
with that i “attempt” to set my cars up to “suit” me.
i have been in an complex engineering environment, i have worked on most of the UK, USA, and European fighter aircraft, plus attack helicopters, and throw in surveillance aircraft and naval guidance systems. In my life and over the years have acquired the ability to have access to all the information i required and a list of 100’s of people to put ideas to or ask for help on problems i encountered.
Was i a good engineer, i think so, but because of the above advantages i was always more than
the sum of my constituents parts. without all of the advantages i had i would have been totally lost.
In sim racing i have none of this. ziltch, zero, bugger all. So this is another long winded attempt
to try and help you discover that both you and i, in fact most of us are at a big disadvantage.
It does not stop talented people or hard workers, or both, bridging the gap and sometimes equaling
or bettering people with the advantages laid out above.
Me, it’s a hobby an interest, i am only interested in being quick enough to survive in the Racedepartment club environment.
You are right about camber extravaganza, i to have it all in green and it has not been the quickest setup
So circuits with some cars have yielded, for me the quickest lap, other circuits have not.
i could waffle on about why i think that it does not always work, i would be guessing, thats why i
have started on the MoTec road, guess what more information to find.
i use Camber extravaganza as a source of information, with tyre pro and the Developers App.
I have spent hours and hours trying to find information on all of the above, especially the mysterious Developer app, only with the odd drib and drab of information found.
It seems to be the norm in sim racing software to give you a loads of undocumented information.
Perhaps it’s a test to move you on to a higher plane.
But in reality, none, so i soldier on and hope that i can develop a feeling for what is right or wrong.
I do not spend much time at setup or practice, ( in fact i spend more time waffling on writing these pointless articles
PS, good bit of advice, @RasmusP . Search all his articles on this and many other relevant subjects. Other knowledgeable people also have an input too, always a good “learning” read.
I will read the thread further. I will search for other threads on the forum as well.) I barely started to try trailbraking and it seems I make some progress and faster lap times, but surely there a lot of things I still can get better. Maybe I should just have patience to learn them.
Just for general info, using your post as a hook for this topic:You may well be using the app correctly .. just remember that adjusting camber settings, is not always about tire temps, there are several reason why you may want to adjust the camber..race length (time) would also come into it on occasions
As Ernie said it's a bit more complex.I am not very good at setups, but I tried yours. I think I changed the brake bias because it seems I can manage it better that way. I did test some other camber values using CamberExtravaganza app, but even if I changed it until all the wheels were almost green, the lap times were actually slower ... weird thing. Maybe I don't know how to use the app properly
This is the next one ..09 June
I stopped using Motec for setups long time ago. Even when I could make sense of it, it still didn't get me faster. Going from the default or from a setup that someone really really fast created is more efficient.
That won't happen. Look at the thread for it, they chaps are waiting for over a year and nothing ever came from it.
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