AC Round 7 of 23 Formula Agile@Pau Thu, 25th May 2023

Shed 17 · May 22, 2023

Well, this is going to be 'interesting'.

I'd never been around here before but out of 50 laps I think I managed 4 without hitting anything!!

At least we haven't got a safety car to hit ( 0.10s) and I respectfully suggest you stay in the car if you crash (0.35s). How lucky was that guy?? I think there may be the odd yellow flag in our race but not too many places to cut!

abecede · May 22, 2023

I was even thinking about setting damage to WAY more than 20% if that leads people to be more cautious, but after seeing this video above I doubt that adding more realistic damage would make any difference

stigs2cousin · May 23, 2023

Of course you could set a (little) more realistic damage, but I fear the field would be drawn apart even quicker then.
After teleporting to the pits with a heavily damaged car you have a time penalty AND loose a lap.
So Fulvio will win by month and not by minutes as usual.

gearwhine · May 23, 2023

abecede said:
I was even thinking about setting damage to WAY more than 20% if that leads people to be more cautious, but after seeing this video above I doubt that adding more realistic damage would make any difference

Maybe Markus that is the way to do it though.
We know we are all going to hit a wall.
Maybe not being able to hit walls every lap without penalty will slow us down. Especially as crashes often allow the driver at fault to just carry on up the road leaving it all behind.
Make us PAY for our mistakes

Shed 17 · May 23, 2023

gearwhine said:
Maybe Markus that is the way to do it though.
We know we are all going to hit a wall.
Maybe not being able to hit walls every lap without penalty will slow us down. Especially as crashes often allow the driver at fault to just carry on up the road leaving it all behind.
Make us PAY for our mistakes

I’m sort of with you on this one Steve but on the other side of the coin is when you get taken out through no fault of your own and suffer damage you lose out, but that just like the real thing I guess.

At Imola last week I noticed that you had one hell of a recovery drive in race 2 after being knocked off in the first lap incident. Would you have managed to come through the field and challenge for P2 if you had to pit for repairs? But I’m all for as much realism as is practical.

stigs2cousin · May 23, 2023

We had this discussion in the Wednesday Multiclass and the point was as Paul said, in the "learning phase" there will be a lot "collateral damage".
And the learning phase will start all over again when a young Hotspot joins us for the first time.

In a "closed society" this would work as proposed, but with the fluctuation here I´m afraid we´d stay in the learning phase forever.

gearwhine · May 23, 2023

Shed 17 said:
I’m sort of with you on this one Steve but on the other side of the coin is when you get taken out through no fault of your own and suffer damage you lose out, but that just like the real thing I guess.
At Imola last week I noticed that you had one hell of a recovery drive in race 2 after being knocked off in the first lap incident. Would you have managed to come through the field and challenge for P2 if you had to pit for repairs? But I’m all for as much realism as is practical.

Paul, you made a few good points there. I was just thinking the offending driver would have to pit. But of course, everyone who got involved would also have to pit. I also get your point about my recovery. As you say, i would not of been able to do it.
Yeah, i like it as it is

Kek700 · May 23, 2023

****, in my mind I was at another circuit, I was almost looking forward to it all.

LUCKILY I read this forum, I was not even going to practice, that would have been a shock for me when I turned up to race.
Now I understand the comments.

Put ABS on, that would help massively to the expected carnage in a positive way.

abecede · May 23, 2023

If only that car HAD ABS... It will be an experience

gearwhine · May 23, 2023

Kek700 said:
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****, in my mind I was at another circuit, I was almost looking forward to it all.

LUCKILY I read this forum, I was not even going to practice, that would have been a shock for me when I turned up to race.
Now I understand the comments.

Put ABS on, that would help massively to the expected carnage in a positive way.

Hey Ernie, we have been talking about having a classic CanAm race with the 60,s Lola T70 on a US circuit. You up for that one matey?

RasmusP · May 23, 2023

I might join you again after quite some time!

The German league finished yesterday so I'm looking at my wheel with only question marks about what to do now

It was quite exhausting after I got hooked up into the competitiveness, not doing anything else regarding simracing/gaming than practicing for these races...
But it was worth it - got better results throughout the 8 rounds and became a better driver.

Anyway, I'm not sure if I'll be home early enough on Thursday, but I'd LOVE to do some casual clubracing with "my homies"

Regarding the damage %:
Racing here since early 2017, it NEVER worked to use higher damage rates. Not even when the grid stayed pretty much the same.
As soon as the race starts, most brains just shut off any thoughts about damage. I'm not completely innocent either! My experience simply tells a clear story.

eN1xes · May 24, 2023

Im more for add 300% tyres wear and ofc 100% damage just for more pitstops during 1h race

eN1xes · May 25, 2023

i already did Pau on wss with those cars https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/honda-civic-type-r-ep3-cup.40763/ was so much fun we should do an event with this car mod

Medilloni · May 25, 2023

eN1xes said:
i already did Pau on wss with those cars https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/honda-civic-type-r-ep3-cup.40763/ was so much fun we should do an event with this car mod

Agree with that Fulvio, it's a superb car

....and easy/forgiving for those not too experienced

RasmusP · May 25, 2023

I probably won't be home in time for the race

But I'll definitely join you next week! Whatever will be raced then

Have fun at this mind warping track. I really like it!

Kek700 · May 25, 2023

this is not a smart choice car for Pau.
if you mange to negotiate the massive road bumps, the kerbs will get you, I have to use the next gear as traction control, I tried an f1 car, that was actually worse.

My car looks more like a rally car, it is at max ride height, that did not work.

The problem is a simple one, in sim racing we have no feel, we tend to predict the out come by muscle memory. if that is an old car or modern car, this circuit does not allow that.
This car on this circuit needs TC and ABS, I can live without TC, but as I am constantly locking the brakes, which will always means colliding with a wall or kerb, not to mention a race with other cars, i foresee a lot of problems in this race to night.
Every thing happens too quickly for me to deal with any outcome, and there are a lot of out comes in one lap.
i will disappear and do some more practice,