AC Round 7 of 23 Formula Agile@Pau Thu, 25th May 2023

stigs2cousin · May 25, 2023

Come on Ernie,

man up and fight through it

(that´s not what I´ll do- I chickened out)

If I get blisters on my fingers I want at least to have some wood to burn in the coming winter)

You could try to soften high speed damping, in theory that should allow the wheels to articulate more freely over the bumps.

On the other hand those AC "cars" don´t seem to follow irl rules sometimes

stigs2cousin · May 25, 2023

eN1xes said:
if Shuzo Matsuoka can harvest clams at -10 degrees why you should give up , never give up!

As I complained earlier Simracing should be relief from day to day struggles and not another stressor.

So I politely decline

Taj Johal · May 25, 2023

Can’t make it tonight, bit of a plumbing emergency in the apartment

probably a good thing because as usual I’ve not managed to practice at all

goood luck everyone tonight, enjoy the carnage / race !!

eN1xes · May 25, 2023

had to quit my head was on fire losing focus hitting every single wall possible my room temp i dont even know huge mistake forgot to open the window i was literally on a furnace

Kek700 · May 25, 2023

Boukâh · May 25, 2023

Resultys are in:

https://simresults.net/230525-e5z

Boukâh · May 25, 2023

stigs2cousin said:
As I complained earlier Simracing should be relief from day to day struggles and not another stressor.

So I politely decline

You're right about that, but it turned out to be good fun in the end. Took me the entire race to find some consistency, but I enjoyed the sense of speed. Just that, didn't enjoy the side walks and the barriers

Shed 17 · May 25, 2023

@gearwhine
Steve, take a look at lap 24 , twice the lap time. Was that when you pitted?

Boukâh · May 25, 2023

This was definitely a track I should've practiced a lot, but apart from a few laps on tuesday there was no time to do that this week. So, I doubted whether or not to join, but I didn't want to bail out, tail between the legs. Only thing I told myself, if I'd fcuk it up for others too much, I'd go to the pits and watch the rest. But managed to find some pace to the and, PB'd a few times and managed to stay between ehm... things ... more and more laps. Was quite a good feeling actually, enjoyed it to the end. Always a Steve nearby somewhere

great pace man!

Sorry for Ernie and Fulvio having to quit due to circumstances, but I just bought myself the t-shirt: "I survived Pau" and I will hang it over my bed tonight, falling asleep with a smile

Mega speed for Axel all week, man that's quite insane, just like Fulvio's pace, damnnn...

Anyway, Axel, Thomas and Paul(!!!) congrats to the podium.

Thank you Han for covering Marcus, and thank you Marcus for keeping this series going! I hope the field will grow a little.

Shed 17 · May 25, 2023

At the start I was thinking it was a pity that the numbers were so low but can you image the carnage if there had been twenty of us around here.
I was happy with my pace if................

...........I could do a clean lap but as we all found out, it was almost impossible for the earthlings amongst us to keep it out of the metalwork.
But when in the groove it was a great feeling to lap so close to the barriers and get that ‘F1’ tunnel vision experience.
Thanks Han for hosting ( you found some lap time in the end) and well done all for having a go. Barcelona is going to be so boring after this one.

stigs2cousin · May 25, 2023

A better man would have resisted, but hey, its me

So, Fulvio, what happend to :

eN1xes said:
if Shuzo Matsuoka can harvest clams at -10 degrees why you should give up , never give up!

gearwhine · May 25, 2023

Shed 17 said:
@gearwhine
Steve, take a look at lap 24 , twice the lap time. Was that when you pitted?

Yes it was Paul. I pitted at around 30 mins and that lap of 02:50.7850 is in that time zone. Nice one Paul. I will have to work out where i would of been if i deduct half that time.

gearwhine · May 25, 2023

Ok, just checked the graph on results site and my position of 4th went off the page on lap 24 when i pitted.
I thought something was up and it was not just me driving to the back of the field.
1.25 is well over 1 lap and now explains what happened but not how it happened.
What a bummer

eN1xes · May 25, 2023

stigs2cousin said:
A better man would have resisted, but hey, its me

So, Fulvio, what happend to :

They say never give up if you are trying :*). If my room is hot and i dont get anything by that i just leave

stigs2cousin · May 26, 2023

So we agree,
If something is a pain in the ass just do something else

eN1xes · May 26, 2023

stigs2cousin said:
So we agree,
If something is a pain in the ass just do something else

No the main difference when i said that to Ernie hes trying to improve with that car, and as i said yesterday i didnt gain anything from that lobby but for sure if i do something and i finish like p20 if i want to have fun while improving it is ok but if i want to finish at the top for sure i improve myself and i use this concept for everything

Kek700 · May 26, 2023

I think poor turn out is due to this car. It is plain difficult, no abs makes it very very difficult, the competition differential from our aliens makes it even more difficult, circuits designed to stop tanks let alone race cars add’s another layer of difficult.
I am with Carsten on this one.

I think it would make much more sense to apply ABS for us earth bound creatures, it would not make me and I suspect others like it more, but it would make it safer and more enjoyable to drive. And if you are against abs then you can turn it off, good luck with that.
I enjoy racing , flying into walls is not fun.
And why I am into one of my rants, there are some very good reasons why Wednesday races are so popular, easy cars to drive is in my opinion just one of the reasons.

gearwhine · May 26, 2023

Kek700 said:
I think poor turn out is due to this car. It is plain difficult, no abs makes it very very difficult, the competition differential from our aliens makes it even more difficult, circuits designed to stop tanks let alone race cars add’s another layer of difficult.
I am with Carsten on this one.
I think it would make much more sense to apply ABS for us earth bound creatures, it would not make me and I suspect others like it more, but it would make it safer and more enjoyable to drive. And if you are against abs then you can turn it off, good luck with that.
I enjoy racing , flying into walls is not fun.
And why I am into one of my rants, there are some very good reasons why Wednesday races are so popular, easy cars to drive is in my opinion just one of the reasons.

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Horses for courses sir.
In my humble opinion we are all different.
I think it is a given that you as a driver on any normal wednesday will probably and do leave me in your dust sir.
Well, in this car you cant, and it is fair to say i probably have a similar edge over you.
Are we saying that is unfair? Of course we are not and i know you dont think that.
So are we then saying maybe i should stop racing if i cannot get on with the Wednesday cars
because we will no longer use a car that suits me? Of course we are not.
Ernie, i am just being provocative and speaking my mind as i do.
As i said, horses for courses mate

Kek700 · May 26, 2023

I tend to agree with you whole hearty.
But perhaps I am not explaining my self properly, I care not one jot for where I am, all my favourite races have been back or mid field.
I do not enjoy cars that lock brakes and I then end up having to constantly dig myself out of walls. Happy to race at the back, race being the important word.

RasmusP · May 26, 2023

gearwhine said:
Horses for courses sir.
In my humble opinion we are all different.
I think it is a given that you as a driver on any normal wednesday will probably and do leave me in your dust sir.
Well, in this car you cant, and it is fair to say i probably have a similar edge over you.
Are we saying that is unfair? Of course we are not and i know you dont think that.
So are we then saying maybe i should stop racing if i cannot get on with the Wednesday cars
because we will no longer use a car that suits me? Of course we are not.
Ernie, i am just being provocative and speaking my mind as i do.
As i said, horses for courses mate

Mhhh, there are two things going on here:
1. Ernie is "impaired" due to not feeling his brake. It's not about different strengths at different things. It's about inclusion for impairments.
With the GT1 cars it was okay since you could reduce the brake power far enough and they don't need 2x the brake input when comparing 100 km/h vs 200 km/h like the agile.

2. If the grid stays being very small, you can either have fun with the few people and ignore the criticism of the others or you make compromises and see if they were the reason or not.

I don't really have an opinion on this. I think abs takes away too much of what makes the car interesting.
I would suggest a car change instead, if the grid becomes and stays too small to have fun.

But first I'll join you for the next one. No deadlines on Thursdays for a few weeks