Poor FPS / Performance difficulties

Msportdan · Sep 2, 2015

So after weeks of pretty much playing AC with the new update. I put on GSC, I was looking forward to it long time away and I thought it will be a blast...long time away and all that?!

errr.... maybe not

I was disappointed with it it felt so lacking performance wise so to speak.. I don't want to get bashed here as I'm just trying to be honest and I will be, you all know me by now.

The gfx, which really suffers and not only that I cant sustain 60 fps with this game on full whack, replays can drop to around 20fps on my i7 gtx 970. Theres glitches around tracks etc etc/// Its a little disheartening after running pcars and ac at full whack solid 60fps. The ai have issues and its plain to see. Its just this engine has been flogged to death and reiza have should be proud by it .

The thing for me is that on high shadows (unlike rf2), the shadows dont go on/inside the cars, and sometimes looks very unauthentic/flat. Max shadows kills my fps in shadows heavy tracks/time..

I'm so sorry guys.. I love your work, but I think we need to move on technologically speaking.

Kevin Pheiffer · Sep 10, 2015

Maybe something simple that you don't think about. Like Anti-virus or some program running somewhere that you don't know about. It's hard to pin down. Some of my drivers have the same issues as you and they spend loads of money for nothing to get the game smooth. I will ask a few of them and get back to you asap.

tribolik · Sep 10, 2015

I had micro stutering with all milestone games and couldnt find out why... until I turned flight mode on and the micro stutering suddenly disapeared

Ho3n3r · Sep 10, 2015

You keep talking about "a solid 60FPS"... Sounds an awful lot like you have Vsync on.

Msportdan · Sep 10, 2015

thats correct i dont turn it off. but i cant achieve 60 in gsc. not in replays, when i easily should....

turn vsync off and i get terrible screentear,

Jyri Kettunen · Sep 10, 2015

Msportdan said:
turn vsync off and i get terrible screentear,

Then you have to limit the FPS...

Msportdan · Sep 10, 2015

whats the difference between turning on vsync and limiting the fps (i presume in plr json?)

Jyri Kettunen · Sep 10, 2015

Less input lag, and better performance.

Ho3n3r · Sep 10, 2015

Jyri Kettunen said:
Less input lag, and better performance.

What he said. Vsync input lag is instantly noticeable for me.

Also, if your FPS goes down to 59, VSync causes it to become 30, if it goes down to 29, it becomes 15 etc.

EDIT: A clear demonstration of input lag:

You can imagine why this would be like cancer in a racing sim.

Will Mazeo · Sep 10, 2015

To be honest I always wondered why Vsync exists. It never really did anything good for games in my view. Limiting the fps works so much more. But then.. you'd expect people to know it, especially with a expensive setup.

Ho3n3r · Sep 10, 2015

Will Mazeo said:
To be honest I always wondered why Vsync exists. It never really did anything good for games in my view. Limiting the fps works so much more. But then.. you'd expect people to know it, especially with a expensive setup.

Basically the 2 main things it does, is have a smoother framerate if you have weaker hardware, and eliminates tearing.

I'd rather have tearing - although I don't even pick it up anymore to be honest - than input lag, as it doesn't impede my (lack of) speed.

The only games where I won't mind input lag, is Minesweeper and Solitaire.

Msportdan · Sep 10, 2015

i wont lie, i cant stand the tearing its makes my eyes sore. but ive not had vsync probs in any game until sce.

Msportdan · Sep 10, 2015

so I tried the above...

turned off vsync, set framerate to -60 on plr..

and didn't really do much and gave me tearing still.

hex · Sep 10, 2015

Hmm, I had some tearing problems on my old monitor - it had low refresh rate. Just thinking out loud here

muzarati · Sep 10, 2015

Kevin Pheiffer said:
I read a lot about graphic issues with GSCE and guys using good hardware having frame problems etc.
Here's the thing.....

I play the game on everything on high....

How does it run with everything on Max?

Kevin Pheiffer · Sep 11, 2015

Not on max, just everything on high with motion blur off.

Msportdan · Sep 11, 2015

ive tried so manh things i even gone thru the nvidia Cp turning things on and off, this game will just not run max on my setup, with 18 cars.

....8 cars yes i have a 60fps in replays.

so ill just hope either the next build or the next gpu driver will fix itself.

roby13 · Sep 11, 2015

-59 framecap for 60 Hz monitors in plr file works better

Msportdan · Sep 11, 2015

Reiza is it possible for a 64 exe.

muzarati · Sep 11, 2015

Kevin Pheiffer said:
Not on max, just everything on high with motion blur off.

...soooo? that makes your previous post meaningless? Our point is that with the decent hardware we have (on paper at least) we should be able to run everything on max, not compromise the quality and dumb it down to high. For me the only issue is with the SuperV8, all other cars run smooth and constant 60fps with vsync on.
I think it's a LOD issue with the SV8