Formula One Emilia Romagna Grand Prix | Driver of the Day: Vote Now

Boby Kim · Apr 20, 2021

Hamilton did a fantastic job coming back after his rookie mistake! For 30 laps he raced hard and flawless.
He was way faster than Max. Max, beside his rookie mistake, also a flawless race. And Lando: hero of the day...no rookie mistakes hard and flawless.
But sorry, the discussion was about casino's right??

Appie Kuipers · Apr 20, 2021

Boby Kim said:
Hamilton did a fantastic job coming back after his rookie mistake! For 30 laps he raced hard and flawless.
He was way faster than Max. Max, beside his rookie mistake, also a flawless race. And Lando: hero of the day...no rookie mistakes hard and flawless.
But sorry, the discussion was about casino's right??

Way faster? Looking at the seconds between them he did get closer atall.

LeSunTzu · Apr 20, 2021

This is a pointless debate. Verstappen and Hamilton were not racing each other at this stage of the race and the TV display of the gap was ridiculous. Verstappen did not have to push, he was controlling the race. Hamilton had to push hard and of course he lost time passing quite a few cars.

Kimmo Kokkonen · Apr 20, 2021

Lewis Hamilton
- 7 times World Champion
- 0 Penalties

What is the violation that hamilton cannot avoid without penalty???

Kimi Raikkonen
- 1 time world champion
- hardest possible penalty given if even the slightest violation is found, every ******* time!!!

Richard Wilks · Apr 20, 2021

ZuneGuy said:
Your a guy with an opinion, don't ever forget that. Everything that you said is just your opinion and that;s it. Now let's look at what fact, Lewis has an Hamilton has had an incredible career, he was the most talked about and anticipated rookie in the history of the sport, and the most successful. He holds more records than any driver, and in a sport where no one has ever looked like him. He is the only driver to directly suffer from racism in the sport. The fact that it was done in Europe is no surprise though.

He is the first in many categories of this sport, and they aren't just about records. You know, Mercedes could have chosen from many other drivers before Hamilton, but that wasn't going to happen - it just wasn't. The man has used his gift to the fullest, and he has amassed a great career because of it.

So when are you going to write Hamilton's Hagiography? You seem to have a knack for that. Obviously facts never get in your way. Like thefact that Hamilton was not better in his Rookie season than Villeneuve. Or that Hamilton was beaten by Rosberg and Button in the same car. Or that Hamilton never actually suffered from racism in the sport, having all his career bankrolled by Ron Dennis, who he stabbed in the back to go after money at Mercedes, and was actually heavely promoted and featured in F1 media to gain "new markets", such as yourself.

I will start reporting your posts everytime you bring race or skin color into the conversation. Nobody else did, but you systematically do it.

LeSunTzu · Apr 20, 2021

Richard Wilks said:
So when are you going to write Hamilton's Hagiography? You seem to have a knack for that. Obviously facts never get in your way. Like thefact that Hamilton was not better in his Rookie season than Villeneuve. Or that Hamilton was beaten by Rosberg and Button in the same car. Or that Hamilton never actually suffered from racism in the sport, having all his career bankrolled by Ron Dennis, who he stabbed in the back to go after money at Mercedes, and was actually heavely promoted and featured in F1 media to gain "new markets", such as yourself.

I will start reporting your posts everytime you bring race or skin color into the conversation. Nobody else did, but you systematically do it.

Sure, never

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PickABetterUsername01 · Apr 20, 2021

LeSunTzu said:
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Omg, cry me a river. That's it?

tr1v1um · Apr 20, 2021

Richard Wilks said:
So when are you going to write Hamilton's Hagiography? You seem to have a knack for that. Obviously facts never get in your way. Like thefact that Hamilton was not better in his Rookie season than Villeneuve. Or that Hamilton was beaten by Rosberg and Button in the same car. Or that Hamilton never actually suffered from racism in the sport, having all his career bankrolled by Ron Dennis, who he stabbed in the back to go after money at Mercedes, and was actually heavely promoted and featured in F1 media to gain "new markets", such as yourself.

I will start reporting your posts everytime you bring race or skin color into the conversation. Nobody else did, but you systematically do it.

I know it's not the most ideal way to talk about and judge people who aren't around anymore, but he was described as a black african in a very degatory way on German television by one of the more obvious racists in the sport, someone who we consider as a big legend today. This led to an open appology on TV, but knowing that there were other similar occasions it's pretty clear how the mindset of the mentioned person was. This person also called Kubica a "Polacke" wich is a very degatorive word for polish people in Germany, again on TV. And what's even funnier, this racist ended up being Hamiltons Boss. Crazy how people forget their principles and opinions about racism, as soon as they have to question the spoon that feeds them.

tr1v1um · Apr 20, 2021

Badwheels said:
Would that rule not have applied to anyone in the grid at that point in the race if it happened to them ? What is your point ? When Checko was "lucky" in Bahrain, why wasn't there this type of response? Just say you hate the dude and call it that. This has nothing to do with the FIA.

Wut? It's allways funny how people put words into the mouth of other people just to stear up trouble and make it a war, even if I just explained the complete opposite. Why should I hate a driver? Hate is such a strong word. I allready explained that I don't care for who gets a second chance. I like Vettel, but this still doesn't justify that he get's a lap gifted. Hamilton wasn't the only driver who benefited. This is indeed a problem caused by the FIA, because they create the rule book. Now read again what I wrote and stop this BS, or get a brain.

Badwheels · Apr 20, 2021

tr1v1um said:
Wut? It's allways funny how people put words into the mouth of other people just to stear up trouble and make it a war, even if I just explained the complete opposite. Why should I hate a driver? Hate is such a strong word. I allready explained that I don't care for who gets a second chance. I like Vettel, but this still doesn't justify that he get's a lap gifted. Hamilton wasn't the only driver who benefited. This is indeed a problem caused by the FIA, because they create the rule book. Now read again what I wrote and stop this BS, or get a brain.

Hmmm..........................................get a brain. Ok. I just bought one so let me try it out.

That rule from the FIA has been in place for quite a while. For you to piss and moan about it now in the instance where it applied to Hamilton and I don't recall you posting about the rule sucking for anyone else, means, with my newly acquired brain, that you don't like ti applied to a particular driver. Not that you don't like the rule in general. It's not that the rule is a problem to anyone but on the grid. It's a problem to you.

So, I thnk that brain suggestion you made was spot on. This new brain showed me you are looney tunes.

tr1v1um · Apr 20, 2021

Badwheels said:
Hmmm..........................................get a brain. Ok. I just bought one so let me try it out.

That rule from the FIA has been in place for quite a while. For you to piss and moan about it now in the instance where it applied to Hamilton and I don't recall you posting about the rule sucking for anyone else, means, with my newly acquired brain, that you don't like ti applied to a particular driver. Not that you don't like the rule in general. It's not that the rule is a problem to anyone but on the grid. It's a problem to you.

So, I thnk that brain suggestion you made was spot on. This new brain showed me you are looney tunes.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your most favorite exercise. Maybe you should read what I posted before, word for word. Btw, if I had to choose between two drivers and had the choice between Max and Lewis I would grab Lewis without much thinking. His driving at Bahrein and Imola against Max was phenomenal, especialy considering where the car is in terms of development and performance compared to Red Bull and other drivers might have given up in the gravel.

Now if you still insinst on me hating a certain driver, something that is up to your phantasy and imagination and seems to be your wet dream, then so be it. What I would ask you though is to respect my opinion and not put words in to my mouth. I can speak for myself, so thank you in advance.

Have a nice evening.

paracletus · Apr 20, 2021

So, Russell eventually did the right thing and apologised for the big crash; once again many fans always pick the side of the hot-topic favourite, regardless of what actually happened. Too many crashes with this one - a lot to learn about racing at top level.
Nowhere near ready for that merc seat, i'm afraid.

ZuneGuy · Apr 20, 2021

Richard Wilks said:
So when are you going to write Hamilton's Hagiography? You seem to have a knack for that. Obviously facts never get in your way. Like thefact that Hamilton was not better in his Rookie season than Villeneuve. Or that Hamilton was beaten by Rosberg and Button in the same car. Or that Hamilton never actually suffered from racism in the sport, having all his career bankrolled by Ron Dennis, who he stabbed in the back to go after money at Mercedes, and was actually heavely promoted and featured in F1 media to gain "new markets", such as yourself.

I will start reporting your posts everytime you bring race or skin color into the conversation. Nobody else did, but you systematically do it.

If Button and Rosberg were so good why didn't Button get a visit from any Merc representatives? Why did Rosberg run away after being gifted a championship by the team? I'll tell you why, because unlike Lewis they don't have another proverbial mental gear to shift into when needed. He rarely ever makes mistakes and the few times that he did he learned from them. I like Button, but he wasn't even on the minds of the Mercedes team when they were building this team - sorry, but it's true.

Now, my point for talking about his skin color is because it matters. He is the only black athlete in the history of a sport, that understandably made him feel like he had even more to prove, but for some reason this topic disturbs you? Now he started his career at McLaren because Ron Dennis was convinced of his talent, and he was that good a driver. Dennis wanted him on the team as a driver, and here you're talking about stabbing someone in the back? What planet are you from, this is a business and if he was not the driver they hoped he was then they would have fired him, slept like a baby and, on to the next candidate. Now according to Lauda Lewis had to be convinced before leaving McLaren, seeing the factory, other facilities, and hearing about their future plans before signing. But I suspect it wasn't too difficult a decision to make since his current team had been caught up in allegation after allegation of espionage and more, plus his his teammate, a two time WDC went on to blackmail said team into sabotaging his car. Now If you're around kind of that kind of business then it should be time for any driver who cares about his name and reputation to go. You need to get a clue...

Richard Wilks · Apr 21, 2021

ZuneGuy said:
If Button and Rosberg were so good why didn't Button get a visit from any Merc representatives? Why did Rosberg run away after being gifted a championship by the team? I'll tell you why, because unlike Lewis they don't have another proverbial mental gear to shift into when needed. He rarely ever makes mistakes and the few times that he did he learned from them. I like Button, but he wasn't even on the minds of the Mercedes team when they were building this team - sorry, but it's true.

Now, my point for talking about his skin color is because it matters. He is the only black athlete in the history of a sport, that understandably made him feel like he had even more to prove, but for some reason this topic disturbs you? Now he started his career at McLaren because Ron Dennis was convinced of his talent, and he was that good a driver. Dennis wanted him on the team as a driver, and here you're talking about stabbing someone in the back? What planet are you from, this is a business and if he was not the driver they hoped he was then they would have fired him, slept like a baby and, on to the next candidate. Now according to Lauda Lewis had to be convinced before leaving McLaren, seeing the factory, other facilities, and hearing about their future plans before signing. But I suspect it wasn't too difficult a decision to make since his current team had been caught up in allegation after allegation of espionage and more, plus his his teammate, a two time WDC went on to blackmail said team into sabotaging his car. Now If you're around kind of that kind of business then it should be time for any driver who cares about his name and reputation to go. You need to get a clue...

You are the one who needs to get a Clue. He ran away from Mclaren because he was being shown by Button, and was not the golden boy there anymore, despite Dennis covering up for him all the time, like when he crashed BOTH cars at Canada in the rain. A stunt he would later perform again with Rosberg in Spain. And yes, its the guy in the back that does the crashing.

EVERYBODY mentioned back then how his move to Mercedes was all about money and getting to be the number one in the team again. Unfortunately even that didnt go exactly to plan, as Rosberg wasn't exactly prepared to roll over.

Yes i am sure it was very hard to turn down the big fat paycheck, together with the assurance that the Mercedes team was given first hand information about the soon to be technical regs way before anybody else, another fact that you seem to forget.

But we have been through all this before.

And as i said before, i refuse to discuss race issues. But i can ask, for when the first Asian F1 champion? Or Muslim? Or Amerindian? Did Hamilton spared a word for Takuma Sato, the first Asian man to win the indy 500? I don't think so. Nor did anybody made a big fuss about it. Or didnt Hamilton also shoved out of the race Alex Albon, a driver with southeast Asian roots? Where was all his tolerance and "larger than the sport" ideals then? Or what about talking of about Michele Mouton? Or about the Force girls in Drag racing? What about Karun Chandok, for when a driver of Indian roots being an F1 champ? Oh wait, these other underrepresented groups in racing dont matter right?... Hypocrisy and playing favorites is different than being really inclusive and tolerant, and i can spot the difference.

tr1v1um said:
I know it's not the most ideal way to talk about and judge people who aren't around anymore, but he was described as a black african in a very degatory way on German television by one of the more obvious racists in the sport, someone who we consider as a big legend today. This led to an open appology on TV, but knowing that there were other similar occasions it's pretty clear how the mindset of the mentioned person was. This person also called Kubica a "Polacke" wich is a very degatorive word for polish people in Germany, again on TV. And what's even funnier, this racist ended up being Hamiltons Boss. Crazy how people forget their principles and opinions about racism, as soon as they have to question the spoon that feeds them.

I knew about the Kubica one, but not about Lewis. Tell that one to @ZuneGuy here, because he seems convinced that Lauda and Hamilton were like father and son... But still, not a big case of racist actions hampering Hamilton, since the same guy gave him the best chance of his career by inviting him to Mercedes, isn't it?

If there is one thing i dislike, is playing victim. And i am sorry, Hamilton has had a blessed life, he is a great driver, i dont think he, or any of his fans need to play the victims. I am sure i speak for many here, a lot of people only wish to have had the same opportunities he had, regardless of our roots. Yes, opportunities given to him, and his colour didnt got in a way one bit. That is a FACT.

ZuneGuy · Apr 21, 2021

Nmae me one guy in

Richard Wilks said:
You are the one who needs to get a Clue. He ran away from Mclaren because he was being shown by Button, and was not the golden boy there anymore, despite Dennis covering up for him all the time, like when he crashed BOTH cars at Canada in the rain. A stunt he would later perform again with Rosberg in Spain. And yes, its the guy in the back that does the crashing.

EVERYBODY mentioned back then how his move to Mercedes was all about money and getting to be the number one in the team again. Unfortunately even that didnt go exactly to plan, as Rosberg wasn't exactly prepared to roll over.

Yes i am sure it was very hard to turn down the big fat paycheck, together with the assurance that the Mercedes team was given first hand information about the soon to be technical regs way before anybody else, another fact that you seem to forget.

But we have been through all this before.

And as i said before, i refuse to discuss race issues. But i can ask, for when the first Asian F1 champion? Or Muslim? Or Amerindian? Did Hamilton spared a word for Takuma Sato, the first Asian man to win the indy 500? I don't think so. Nor did anybody made a big fuss about it. Or didnt Hamilton also shoved out of the race Alex Albon, a driver with southeast Asian roots? Where was all his tolerance and "larger than the sport" ideals then? Or what about talking of about Michele Mouton? Or about the Force girls in Drag racing? What about Karun Chandok, for when a driver of Indian roots being an F1 champ? Oh wait, these other underrepresented groups in racing dont matter right?... Hypocrisy and playing favorites is different than being really inclusive and tolerant, and i can spot the difference.

I knew about the Kubica one, but not about Lewis. Tell that one to @ZuneGuy here, because he seems convinced that Lauda and Hamilton were like father and son... But still, not a big case of racist actions hampering Hamilton, since the same guy gave him the best chance of his career by inviting him to Mercedes, isn't it?

If there is one thing i dislike, is playing victim. And i am sorry, Hamilton has had a blessed life, he is a great driver, i dont think he, or any of his fans need to play the victims. I am sure i speak for many here, a lot of people only wish to have had the same opportunities he had, regardless of our roots. Yes, opportunities given to him, and his colour didnt got in a way one b

Richard Wilks said:

You are the one who needs to get a Clue. He ran away from Mclaren because he was being shown by Button, and was not the golden boy there anymore, despite Dennis covering up for him all the time, like when he crashed BOTH cars at Canada in the rain. A stunt he would later perform again with Rosberg in Spain. And yes, its the guy in the back that does the crashing.

EVERYBODY mentioned back then how his move to Mercedes was all about money and getting to be the number one in the team again. Unfortunately even that didnt go exactly to plan, as Rosberg wasn't exactly prepared to roll over.

Yes i am sure it was very hard to turn down the big fat paycheck, together with the assurance that the Mercedes team was given first hand information about the soon to be technical regs way before anybody else, another fact that you seem to forget.

But we have been through all this before.

And as i said before, i refuse to discuss race issues. But i can ask, for when the first Asian F1 champion? Or Muslim? Or Amerindian? Did Hamilton spared a word for Takuma Sato, the first Asian man to win the indy 500? I don't think so. Nor did anybody made a big fuss about it. Or didnt Hamilton also shoved out of the race Alex Albon, a driver with southeast Asian roots? Where was all his tolerance and "larger than the sport" ideals then? Or what about talking of about Michele Mouton? Or about the Force girls in Drag racing? What about Karun Chandok, for when a driver of Indian roots being an F1 champ? Oh wait, these other underrepresented groups in racing dont matter right?... Hypocrisy and playing favorites is different than being really inclusive and tolerant, and i can spot the difference.

I knew about the Kubica one, but not about Lewis. Tell that one to @ZuneGuy here, because he seems convinced that Lauda and Hamilton were like father and son... But still, not a big case of racist actions hampering Hamilton, since the same guy gave him the best chance of his career by inviting him to Mercedes, isn't it?

If there is one thing i dislike, is playing victim. And i am sorry, Hamilton has had a blessed life, he is a great driver, i dont think he, or any of his fans need to play the victims. I am sure i speak for many here, a lot of people only wish to have had the same opportunities he had, regardless of our roots. Yes, opportunities given to him, and his colour didnt got in a way one bit. That is a FACT.

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Drivers get into crashes what's your point with who crashed what. He was still a great driver even as a rookie and no mistake he made as a young driver made any difference to any of his bosses or future bosses because they still knew that he was a special driver. Button ended up where he is today, just as Hamilton has is where he is today. I mean race hasn't hindered Hamilton's career because he didn't allow it to effect him except to keep winning. At McLaren he was a young driver who has gotten even better over the years - because he learned to stop merely relying on just his talent. Why are you so concerned with his money or why he left McLaren. McLaren had turned themselves into a shipwreck under Dennis, and Mercedes wanted him. His leaving McLaren had everyone - yes on Sky F1, NBC Sports and everywhere else second guessing his decision Ultimately he made the right choice for himself because he's a smart business man who is in charge of his career. He holds the cards at Mercedes so why are you worrying yourself about his money?

"Did Hamilton spared a word for Takuma Sato, the first Asian man to win the indy 500? I don't think so. Nor did anybody made a big fuss about it."

Why would he say a word about someone in another racing series? I mean you're talking about this and in this same country Asian people are being attacked every day with hatred. This is the world where we have always lived. The whole world erupted when a police officer choked a black man in the street, and he (the officer) today was unanimously found guilty. This is the world and when someone like Lewis does what he has done it is considered breaking barriers, because the darker your skin the worse you are treated. Do you honestly think that racism in F1 is any different from European football. It's a European sport and we have seen the race related horrors in European football. It hasn't been a problem for Lewis because he didn't allow it to effect him. But when people at a racing venue (Spain) all have on black face, wearing t-shirts that read "Hamilton's family" it has to bother you a little. Now I don't think that has ever happened in the sport of F1 before Hamilton's arrival, has it?

Badwheels · Apr 21, 2021

tr1v1um said:
Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your most favorite exercise. Maybe you should read what I posted before, word for word. Btw, if I had to choose between two drivers and had the choice between Max and Lewis I would grab Lewis without much thinking. His driving at Bahrein and Imola against Max was phenomenal, especialy considering where the car is in terms of development and performance compared to Red Bull and other drivers might have given up in the gravel.

Now if you still insinst on me hating a certain driver, something that is up to your phantasy and imagination and seems to be your wet dream, then so be it. What I would ask you though is to respect my opinion and not put words in to my mouth. I can speak for myself, so thank you in advance.

Have a nice evening.

I apologize. After reading this again and realizing your spelling is what was throwing me off, I concur. With whatever it was you were trying to say.

Richard Wilks · Apr 21, 2021

ZuneGuy said:
Nmae me one guy in

Drivers get into crashes what's your point with who crashed what. He was still a great driver even as a rookie and no mistake he made as a young driver made any difference to any of his bosses or future bosses because they still knew that he was a special driver. Button ended up where he is today, just as Hamilton has is where he is today. I mean race hasn't hindered Hamilton's career because he didn't allow it to effect him except to keep winning. At McLaren he was a young driver who has gotten even better over the years - because he learned to stop merely relying on just his talent. Why are you so concerned with his money or why he left McLaren. McLaren had turned themselves into a shipwreck under Dennis, and Mercedes wanted him. His leaving McLaren had everyone - yes on Sky F1, NBC Sports and everywhere else second guessing his decision Ultimately he made the right choice for himself because he's a smart business man who is in charge of his career. He holds the cards at Mercedes so why are you worrying yourself about his money?

"Did Hamilton spared a word for Takuma Sato, the first Asian man to win the indy 500? I don't think so. Nor did anybody made a big fuss about it."

Why would he say a word about someone in another racing series? I mean you're talking about this and in this same country Asian people are being attacked every day with hatred. This is the world where we have always lived. The whole world erupted when a police officer choked a black man in the street, and he (the officer) today was unanimously found guilty. This is the world and when someone like Lewis does what he has done it is considered breaking barriers, because the darker your skin the worse you are treated. Do you honestly think that racism in F1 is any different from European football. It's a European sport and we have seen the race related horrors in European football. It hasn't been a problem for Lewis because he didn't allow it to effect him. But when people at a racing venue (Spain) all have on black face, wearing t-shirts that read "Hamilton's family" it has to bother you a little. Now I don't think that has ever happened in the sport of F1 before Hamilton's arrival, has it?

Nice way of ignoring everything i said...

its not so convenient is it?... Hamilton should be happy, he only got some idiots blackfaced, Schumacher got death threats before joining Ferrari in Italy. And AFAIK, far east asians usually have a fair skin tone, but ok. This conversation is over.

Ronaldoz87 · Apr 21, 2021

Clearly Verstappen and Norris!
@ZuneGuy Bottas and Russel offered themselves to help Hamilton a lot!
You are talking a lot of racism btw, Hamilton is given a superspot in F1, so you should get over it. Everybody who win trophies, because there was no competition, will face critisism. Because there are cars out there, and people would like to see a race.

ZuneGuy · Apr 21, 2021

Richard Wilks said:
Nice way of ignoring everything i said... its not so convenient is it?... Hamilton should be happy, he only got some idiots blackfaced, Schumacher got death threats before joining Ferrari in Italy. And AFAIK, far east asians usually have a fair skin tone, but ok. This conversation is over.

Thank you...

ZuneGuy · Apr 21, 2021

Ronaldoz87 said:
Clearly Verstappen and Norris!
@ZuneGuy Bottas and Russel offered themselves to help Hamilton a lot!
You are talking a lot of racism btw, Hamilton is given a superspot in F1, so you should get over it. Everybody who win trophies, because there was no competition, will face critisism. Because there are cars out there, and people would like to see a race.

Hamilton can't help that he's the best driver of a whole generation of his peers. He's not perfect because he is a human being, but he used his talents and the right people noticed. I only mentioned that he is the only driver to have suffered racial abuse and nothing more, but the guy that I was communicating with didn't like that - too bad for him is all that I can say though.

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