2021 Formula One Monaco Grand Prix

davehenrie · May 24, 2021

If I were Red Bull, I wouldn't feel too confident yet. A few years back, Vettel had a fairly sizeable lead right around the summer break and ended up giving it all away in just a couple of races.

Durge Driven · May 24, 2021

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EDIT: I only say this as I never saw him after race where Lewis and Charles both say congrats to Max and Red Bull

RedDedRcDepartment · May 24, 2021

If I comment about the people who comment in this thread, I get in big trouble.

muzikant · May 24, 2021

Max and Lando

muzikant · May 24, 2021

davehenrie said:
If I were Red Bull, I wouldn't feel too confident yet. A few years back, Vettel had a fairly sizeable lead right around the summer break and ended up giving it all away in just a couple of races.

This is a championship about which car is better on which track. Edit: and most of the tracks the merc is the last 7 years very strong. Redbull have a lot of work to do!

TRASGU · May 24, 2021

davehenrie said:
If I were Red Bull, I wouldn't feel too confident yet. A few years back, Vettel had a fairly sizeable lead right around the summer break and ended up giving it all away in just a couple of races.

If I were Red Bull I would stop development in this season's car. Mercedes still has a half a second faster car, but is just playing with them to keep them developing a car that isn't going to win any championship and that excess of work on this season's car will make them start the new regulations cycle in a weakened position having to catching up with everybody.

Mercedes stopped the development of the 2020 car at spa with a car half a second faster, while rbr kept developing the car until the last race and they were still slower than mercedes until the last race that both mercedes raced underpowered on purpose just to test a new cooling system for 2021.

Mercedes has half a season of advantage in engineering man hours over rbr on the 2021 car, they simulated a undrivable car to be able to sell themselves as the underdog and to bait rbr into believe that they really closed the gap.

The truth is that magically in bahrain the mercedes no longer were undrivable, and in the race lewis and even frikking bottas was the shadow of max's gearbox, and max with drs open was unable to close the gap with the mercedes on the straights.

In imola suddenly they were on pole, and once the track started to dry hamilton was lapping half a second faster than max.

In portimao another pole for mercedes and in the race lewis was max's gearbox shadow until he overtook him, after that max got locked behind a slower bottas, being unable to close the gap even with the drs open and a slipstream.

At spain another pole to mercedes, and in the race hamilton could keep behind max's dirty air as much as he liked and still have quite a lot less tyre degradation.

In monaco frikkin bottas was fighting for the pole position when leclerc crashed, and in the race he was following verstappen with ease, just imagine what lewis could had done had he not gotten lost in the setup direction they followed.

Also, every time they need something extra they magically find extra pace to save their asses. It's very clear that they aren't showing all what they really have in order to bait rbr into waste resources to get rid of a rival for the first season of the next regulations.

Very sly and clever if you ask me. Even the wings protest goes in that direction, casually mercedes, mclaren and aston martin that last season had flexi-wings stopped using them for the 2021 season and now they are very vocal on penaltys to the rest of the teams that still use them. The motivation is to make them waste extra engineering hours and money in this season's car in order to have a small engineering and budged advantage for next season.

Sly and clever, if you think how casual is that the only teams that no longer have flexi-wings and are most vocal about the issue are the teams that mount mercedes engines. Toto's influence over his client teams is overwhelming and all those teams now have gained something with it.

So, basically rbr are going to loose this season's championships and start the next one on the backfoot. And it also has the potential to fool max into overdrive the car believing that because on appearance he es just a tenth or two slower he can make the difference in performance taking risks and overdriving, that would make him destroy his tyres and have mistakes or crashes, making lewis look like a god. Vettel has fall into that same trap before.

Food for tought: if in 2020 with a half a second faster car bottas was having a nightmare to keep max behind him on most races, how it is possible that now with on paper max having a car that closed a half a second gap that bottas can keep up with max on the race and still can outqualify him. If they had a slower car hamilton would make the difference and bottas would be nowhere near him. Mercedes is toying with rbr.

Appie Kuipers · May 24, 2021

muzikant said:
This is a championship about which car is better on which track. Edit: and most of the tracks the merc is the last 7 years very strong. Redbull have a lot of work to do!

High speed tracks are for the Mercs, some work to be done for the Japanese

muzikant · May 24, 2021

TRASGU said:
If I were Red Bull I would stop development in this season's car. Mercedes still has a half a second faster car, but is just playing with them to keep them developing a car that isn't going to win any championship and that excess of work on this season's car will make them start the new regulations cycle in a weakened position having to catching up with everybody.

Mercedes stopped the development of the 2020 car at spa with a car half a second faster, while rbr kept developing the car until the last race and they were still slower than mercedes until the last race that both mercedes raced underpowered on purpose just to test a new cooling system for 2021.

Mercedes has half a season of advantage in engineering man hours over rbr on the 2021 car, they simulated a undrivable car to be able to sell themselves as the underdog and to bait rbr into believe that they really closed the gap.

The truth is that magically in bahrain the mercedes no longer were undrivable, and in the race lewis and even frikking bottas was the shadow of max's gearbox, and max with drs open was unable to close the gap with the mercedes on the straights.

In imola suddenly they were on pole, and once the track started to dry hamilton was lapping half a second faster than max.

In portimao another pole for mercedes and in the race lewis was max's gearbox shadow until he overtook him, after that max got locked behind a slower bottas, being unable to close the gap even with the drs open and a slipstream.

At spain another pole to mercedes, and in the race hamilton could keep behind max's dirty air as much as he liked and still have quite a lot less tyre degradation.

In monaco frikkin bottas was fighting for the pole position when leclerc crashed, and in the race he was following verstappen with ease, just imagine what lewis could had done had he not gotten lost in the setup direction they followed.

Also, every time they need something extra they magically find extra pace to save their asses. It's very clear that they aren't showing all what they really have in order to bait rbr into waste resources to get rid of a rival for the first season of the next regulations.

Very sly and clever if you ask me. Even the wings protest goes in that direction, casually mercedes, mclaren and aston martin that last season had flexi-wings stopped using them for the 2021 season and now they are very vocal on penaltys to the rest of the teams that still use them. The motivation is to make them waste extra engineering hours and money in this season's car in order to have a small engineering and budged advantage for next season.

Sly and clever, if you think how casual is that the only teams that no longer have flexi-wings and are most vocal about the issue are the teams that mount mercedes engines. Toto's influence over his client teams is overwhelming and all those teams now have gained something with it.

So, basically rbr are going to loose this season's championships and start the next one on the backfoot. And it also has the potential to fool max into overdrive the car believing that because on appearance he es just a tenth or two slower he can make the difference in performance taking risks and overdriving, that would make him destroy his tyres and have mistakes or crashes, making lewis look like a god. Vettel has fall into that same trap before.

Food for tought: if in 2020 with a half a second faster car bottas was having a nightmare to keep max behind him on most races, how it is possible that now with on paper max having a car that closed a half a second gap that bottas can keep up with max on the race and still can outqualify him. If they had a slower car hamilton would make the difference and bottas would be nowhere near him. Mercedes is toying with rbr.

interesting to read! Agree with many things. But at Redbulll they aren't completely stupid either. They are busy hiring good people .. they will run the engine themselves .. The Merc is simply the better car ... power engine! but Lewis will finally have to really fight for his wdc and that is only a good thing.

Patrik Marek · May 24, 2021

bgil66 said:
Mclaren's livery is awesome!

not sure but I never liked the gulf colors, only exception being Porsche 917k

RichardHessels · May 24, 2021

TRASGU said:
If I were Red Bull I would stop development in this season's car. Mercedes still has a half a second faster car, but is just playing with them to keep them developing a car that isn't going to win any championship and that excess of work on this season's car will make them start the new regulations cycle in a weakened position having to catching up with everybody.

Mercedes stopped the development of the 2020 car at spa with a car half a second faster, while rbr kept developing the car until the last race and they were still slower than mercedes until the last race that both mercedes raced underpowered on purpose just to test a new cooling system for 2021.

Mercedes has half a season of advantage in engineering man hours over rbr on the 2021 car, they simulated a undrivable car to be able to sell themselves as the underdog and to bait rbr into believe that they really closed the gap.

The truth is that magically in bahrain the mercedes no longer were undrivable, and in the race lewis and even frikking bottas was the shadow of max's gearbox, and max with drs open was unable to close the gap with the mercedes on the straights.

In imola suddenly they were on pole, and once the track started to dry hamilton was lapping half a second faster than max.

In portimao another pole for mercedes and in the race lewis was max's gearbox shadow until he overtook him, after that max got locked behind a slower bottas, being unable to close the gap even with the drs open and a slipstream.

At spain another pole to mercedes, and in the race hamilton could keep behind max's dirty air as much as he liked and still have quite a lot less tyre degradation.

In monaco frikkin bottas was fighting for the pole position when leclerc crashed, and in the race he was following verstappen with ease, just imagine what lewis could had done had he not gotten lost in the setup direction they followed.

Also, every time they need something extra they magically find extra pace to save their asses. It's very clear that they aren't showing all what they really have in order to bait rbr into waste resources to get rid of a rival for the first season of the next regulations.

Very sly and clever if you ask me. Even the wings protest goes in that direction, casually mercedes, mclaren and aston martin that last season had flexi-wings stopped using them for the 2021 season and now they are very vocal on penaltys to the rest of the teams that still use them. The motivation is to make them waste extra engineering hours and money in this season's car in order to have a small engineering and budged advantage for next season.

Sly and clever, if you think how casual is that the only teams that no longer have flexi-wings and are most vocal about the issue are the teams that mount mercedes engines. Toto's influence over his client teams is overwhelming and all those teams now have gained something with it.

So, basically rbr are going to loose this season's championships and start the next one on the backfoot. And it also has the potential to fool max into overdrive the car believing that because on appearance he es just a tenth or two slower he can make the difference in performance taking risks and overdriving, that would make him destroy his tyres and have mistakes or crashes, making lewis look like a god. Vettel has fall into that same trap before.

Food for tought: if in 2020 with a half a second faster car bottas was having a nightmare to keep max behind him on most races, how it is possible that now with on paper max having a car that closed a half a second gap that bottas can keep up with max on the race and still can outqualify him. If they had a slower car hamilton would make the difference and bottas would be nowhere near him. Mercedes is toying with rbr.

You make up great stories.
You can choose to have a car for the whole season or a good car at some.
Mercedes made a mess of this race.
At most other tracks they will do really good.

James Burton · May 24, 2021

Personally I think there's a lack of moral at Mercedes, Lewis looked uninterested in Bahrain. Bottas looks equally miserable.

Just a wild thought lol

Kimmo Kokkonen · May 24, 2021

Yesterday Lewis just let Bottas to win but what did Bottas? Bottas is the biggest looser ever no matter if it was technical problem yesterday, he will never win F1 title!!! I'm from Finland and Kimi Raikkonen is still my hero!!!

Bram Hengeveld · May 24, 2021

Another boring Monaco parade with a surprising outcome. But goodness me how did I even watch 78 laps of this?

It's time for a special Monaco hotlap event for points instead as this you can't sell as a race anymore.

muzikant · May 24, 2021

totally agree! but what i liked about this race yesterday say it again. Merc big mouth ... never get overconfident. You do the others drivers too short. I especially enjoyed the young generation who showed what they can do all weekend.

it would be nice to have some adjustments to the track. If Max hadn't won it, I would have found it boring too. But hey boring .... x7 years merc domination is borring

tazza1986 · May 24, 2021

78 laps of deadly boredom. I did not ask for overtaking, now impossible due to the speed and size of these cars, but at least one attempt to attack is. Nothing at all, the most exciting thing was the bottas wheel bolt. I think it's time to change something with Monte Carlo, or type of event or the circuit

Jason Chamberlain · May 24, 2021

Patrik Marek said:
not sure but I never liked the gulf colors, only exception being Porsche 917k

I never had much of an opinion on them, but I like how the light blue made the orange really pop on the McLarens this year.

Appie Kuipers · May 24, 2021

tazza1986 said:
78 laps of deadly boredom. I did not ask for overtaking, now impossible due to the speed and size of these cars, but at least one attempt to attack is. Nothing at all, the most exciting thing was the bottas wheel bolt. I think it's time to change something with Monte Carlo, or type of event or the circuit

They have to create 2 or 3 locations where you can overtake, but where?

LeSunTzu · May 24, 2021

tazza1986 said:
78 laps of deadly boredom. I did not ask for overtaking, now impossible due to the speed and size of these cars, but at least one attempt to attack is. Nothing at all, the most exciting thing was the bottas wheel bolt. I think it's time to change something with Monte Carlo, or type of event or the circuit

There was not a single passing attempt during the whole race.
They say the error margin at Monaco is much thinner than anywhere else but this was a GP without any mistake (except a few lazy shortcuts at the chicane). So it is not only the speed and size of the cars, but also the way they drive.

BrainsBush · May 24, 2021

Appie Kuipers said:
They have to create 2 or 3 locations where you can overtake, but where?

They are going to change/extend the harbour and swimming pool area. Who knows that will also be used for new tarmac??

davehenrie · May 24, 2021

LeSunTzu said:
There was not a single passing attempt during the whole race.
They say the error margin at Monaco is much thinner than anywhere else but this was a GP without any mistake (except a few lazy shortcuts at the chicane). So it is not only the speed and size of the cars, but also the way they drive.

Mick passed Nikita on the sidewalk of the Grand Hotel Hairpin.

1	Charles LECLERC	Ferrari	1:10.346
2	Max VERSTAPPEN	Red Bull	1:10.576
3	Valtteri BOTTAS	Mercedes	1:10.601
4	Carlos SAINZ	Ferrari	1:10.611
5	Lando NORRIS	McLaren	1:10.620
6	Pierre GASLY	Alpha Tauri	1:10.900
7	Lewis HAMILTON	Mercedes	1:11.095
8	Sebastian VETTEL	Aston Martin	1:11.419
9	Sergio PÉREZ	Red Bull	1:11.573
10	Antonio GIOVINAZZI	Alfa Romeo	1:11.779
11	Esteban OCON	Alpine	1:11.486
12	Daniel RICCIARDO	McLaren	1:11.598
13	Lance STROLL	Aston Martin	1:11.600
14	Kimi RÄIKKÖNEN	Alfa Romeo	1:11.642
15	George RUSSELL	Williams	1:11.830
16	Yuki TSUNODA	Alpha Tauri	1:12.096
17	Fernando ALONSO	Alpine	1:12.205
18	Nicholas LATIFI	Williams	1:12.366
19	Nikita MAZEPIN	Haas	1:12.958
20	Mick SCHUMACHER	Haas	DNS

1	Max VERSTAPPEN	Red Bull	LAP 78
2	Carlos SAINZ	Ferrari	8.968
3	Lando NORRIS	McLaren	19.427
4	Sergio PÉREZ	Red Bull	20.49
5	Sebastian VETTEL	Aston Martin	52.591
6	Pierre GASLY	Alpha Tauri	53.896
7	Lewis HAMILTON*	Mercedes	68.231
8	Lance STROLL	Aston Martin	+ 1 Lap
9	Esteban OCON	Alpine	+ 1 Lap
10	Antonio GIOVINAZZI	Alfa Romeo	+ 1 Lap
11	Kimi RÄIKKÖNEN	Alfa Romeo	+ 1 Lap
12	Daniel RICCIARDO	McLaren	+ 1 Lap
13	Fernando ALONSO	Alpine	+ 1 Lap
14	George RUSSELL	Williams	+ 1 Lap
15	Nicholas LATIFI	Williams	+ 1 Lap
16	Yuki TSUNODA	Alpha Tauri	+ 1 Lap
17	Nikita MAZEPIN	Haas	+ 3 Laps
18	Mick SCHUMACHER	Haas	+ 3 Laps
19	Valtteri BOTTAS	Mercedes	DNF
20	Charles LECLERC	Ferrari	DNS

1	Max VERSTAPPEN	Red Bull Racing	105
2	Lewis HAMILTON	Mercedes AMG Motorsport	101
3	Lando NORRIS	McLaren Racing	56
4	Valtteri BOTTAS	Mercedes AMG Motorsport	47
5	Sergio PÉREZ	Red Bull Racing	44
6	Charles LECLERC	Scuderia Ferrari	40
7	Carlos SAINZ	Scuderia Ferrari	38
8	Daniel RICCIARDO	McLaren Racing	24
9	Pierre GASLY	Scuderia Alpha Tauri	16
10	Esteban OCON	Alpine F1	12
11	Sebastian VETTEL	Aston Martin F1 Team	10
12	Lance STROLL	Aston Martin F1 Team	9
13	Fernando ALONSO	Alpine F1	5
14	Yuki TSUNODA	Scuderia Alpha Tauri	2
15	Antonio GIOVINAZZI	Alfa Romeo Racing	1
16	Kimi RÄIKKÖNEN	Alfa Romeo Racing	0
17	George RUSSELL	Williams Racing	0
18	Nicholas LATIFI	Williams Racing	0
19	Mick SCHUMACHER	Haas F1	0
20	Nikita MAZEPIN	Haas F1	0

1	Red Bull	149
2	Mercedes	148
3	McLaren	80
4	Ferrari	78
5	Aston Martin	19
6	Alpha Tauri	18
7	Alpine	17
8	Alfa Romeo	1
9	Williams	0
10	Haas	0

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