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Watkins Glen 1948 Track???

Braddw25

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Hello, does anyone know if the 1948 Watkins Glen track was ever converted for use in GTL? This is the original road course that went through the main street in the town and then out through the countryside when the first races were held there in 1948 before the permanent course that most are familiar with was built. I have this track working in RFactor (with some issues that still need fixed), but have always felt that it would be a better fit in GTL. Does anyone know if this was ever made for GTL or does anyone know how to convert from RFactor to GTL? Thanks in advance for any help.
 

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As far as I know "Watkin48" was created for Grand Prix Legends and never ported to any other Sim. I had it at one time but I have been unable to locate it as of yet; the only file that I have found is an old BPOM map (see attached). I have John Bradley's original pdf if you need it.

If you send either the GPL or rFactor version to me I will probably be able to convert it to GT Legends and/or GTR2 without much trouble; just leave me a PM...


Watkin48 BPOM.jpg
 
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Braddw25

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The files for the Watkins Glen 48 track have been sent to Gary and he is working on getting them working in game. Thanks once again, Gary for doing this.
 
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The files for the Watkins Glen 48 track have been sent to Gary and he is working on getting them working in game. Thanks once again, Gary for doing this.
Many thanks for the files Bradd. I am happy to do, it but there are a few issues (as you know) that I am working on with the rFactor version. I should have a beta version for GT Legends ready for testing in a few days; a GTR2 version will follow after we finish beta testing.
 

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No rush at all, Gary. I'm just very grateful that you are willing to try to get this into GTL and GTR2. It's one of my favorite tracks to drive in Rfactor. I would do it myself, but I simply lack the modding ability to do something like this.
 

umma gumma

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very cool!!

I remember this track in GPL.

was in Watkins Glen for the historic event the past couple years & drove around the old course.

they replaced the old bridge last year though. unfortunately it looks new & modern now, vs the original which was stone
 

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I agree 100%. I too have been to Watkins Glen for the Historic Grand Prix and many other times to visit all the wineries in the area. It's one of my favorite locations on Earth to visit. Have also driven the old course MANY times and even raced on the "new track" back in the early 1990's. I can't wait to be able to drive the old track in GTL as I also have fond memories of the track from the GPL days!!
 

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Thanks Braddw25! The Sim community can see a preview video of my nearly "straight" conversion :

This from an old rFactor track that was converted from one of the coolest Grand Prix Legends circuits ever created by some of the best authors of their day.

The rFactor version simply does not do the original GPL track justice, so I have done my own conversion and I am in the process of completely reworking the original graphics to GTL / GTR2 quality (with original, unaltered Grand Prix Legends track geometry and objects) and I will upload my new version(s) to this site when I am finished with them (much later).
 
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Scroll down for all hi-res updates and you can do Spring would be nice

 
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Thanks Durge! I downloaded them all, and I will put them to use ASAP :thumbsup:

I create all of my tracks to be in the glory of Spring :)
 
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Thanks again Durge.

I have expanded the "dat" files, examined the 3do objects and converted the mips. I do not see much of a difference, so it is possible that the rFactor version was converted from an updated GPL track.

It does not matter because, in addition to restoring all of the original track geometry/elevations, I am creating all new (3D) trees, road surfaces and farmland textures.
 

umma gumma

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WOW!!

great to see this!! thanks for the preview!

seems it needs a lot more elevation changes, steeper hills going out of downtown & also coming down the hill to Millikins
 
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I agree. The GPL track has several areas with inaccurate elevations; these will be addressed in my "new" version :thumbsup:
 
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