Okay, dont get confused by the different DSP options shown in this thread that because the Douk Audio labels some products as using "Hi-Fi DSP" that it is the same thing or even similar.
So that sort of EQ is pretty useless with shakers, if I understand. Thanks again @Mr Latte, very clear as always. I'll buy 2x NS-01G or one M4 instead with 16 or 14 ga AWG cables. Cheers.Okay, dont get confused by the different DSP options shown in this thread that because the Douk Audio labels some products as using "Hi-Fi DSP" that it is the same thing or even similar.
What Douk audio is likely doing is having some form of signal processing done with the audio to help improve the sound. I would consider this to be more like a bass boost or form of EQ applied and built into the amp. It is not offering the user a set of control/options like proper DSP processing units generally offer.
I mentioned speaker cables in the cable guide, you can get a link at the start of this thread. Its a bit old now and has references to Simvibe usage but might still be of some help.
In the end, I'm using just 4 isolators (marked in the image):@Michal Burisin
As mentioned earlier, your design allows a large surround frame to easily spread the tactile to places it does not need to go. The primary load/weight of the platform is likely to be closer to the seat and up to the point of the BK.
This requires some speculation but this load may be causing some degree of leverage to the furthest front isolators which have practically no load on them.
Yet this same region you have a horizontal bridge to let the energy freely flow over and the isolators used, you previously mentioned they are quite soft and work more in one direction but looking at your plans, they are installed 90 degrees to the others, so effectively are positioned less optimally if installed this way?
I don't see why you need the whole front surround section you have the weights applied to, it just encourages the harmonics with the free flow of energy of the L/R units. You could try removing the front horizontal bridge and rotate the furthest front isolator to the same position as the others. Or consider shortening the length no further than the horizontal bridge the pedals rest on.
Speculation here again but the softer isolator with less load applied to it in this region is letting the 8020 frame bounce as a mechanical amplifier and increasing the resonance? Alternatively it may be that having firmer isolators where there is less load/depression at the front may resolve the issue without those big weights. Yet these things often need experimentation.
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I'm tuning each system individually, so I can feel quite good L / R separation from tactile alone (also on the pedal deck - left BK goes mainly to left heel / right BK to right heel), but that's relative as all in tactile I'm saying that I think the separation is good, but if you tried it, you might think otherwise. No way to tell without having direct comparison. Also I have no point of reference beside my own rig and previous experience with experimenting with it, so really hard to tell objectively.If your content that's what matters and its an all-round impressive rig for sure so yes time for you to start enjoying it.
The motion is likely helping to give you the perception that the felt tactile from the platform and entering the seat is L/R.
You can easily test this by generating effects in mono to each unit and it may even feel better.
Clearly the L/R units with more than one direct horizontal bridge only 14-16" apart would encourage the crosstalk to actually be happening in that foot platform rather than reducing it. Having feedback from firmer isolators at the pedals would have been interesting to determine how it changed things too.
You can use the record feature to keep repeating a set of bump effects and look at the output for the channels in Simhub how the L/R may differ in the effects output.I'm tuning each system individually, so I can feel quite good L / R separation from tactile alone (also on the pedal deck - left BK goes mainly to left heel / right BK to right heel), but that's relative as all in tactile I'm saying that I think the separation is good, but if you tried it, you might think otherwise. No way to tell without having direct comparison. Also I have no point of reference beside my own rig and previous experience with experimenting with it, so really hard to tell objectively.
I'll try.You can use the record feature to keep repeating a set of bump effects and look at the output for the channels in Simhub how the L/R may differ in the effects output.
Let us know how it feels to have "Corners" used for suspension bumps compared to "Mono" but if doing this you would also be best to share the settings used in Simhub for the effect.
Place your right foot only on the pedals/foot platform
Use a Gear Shift effect to only output to the left BK
Can you feel the effect in your right foot, how much
Now do test with only your left foot and still only left BK
Determine how much stronger/weaker the effect used is between each foot
You could do this test also with different frequencies used to help determine if they make a difference
Try with moderate and high volumes
Your approach regarding the pedals does make sense, however... do you plan on using left foot braking in the future? Naturally I was right foot braking due to how I drive my car IRL, though I've now got used to left foot braking on my rig and much prefer it and the benefits it brings. I do rarely use the clutch at the moment though. Hope that's something to consider.Pedal Exciters Ideas / Thoughts
I am currently building my own pedals and rig and want to ensure I future proof regards tactile. My knowledge of tactile is from reading this and other threads on the RD forums and I think I have a reasonable grasp of the basics.
I dont have a PC yet and havent tried any tactile. My PC build will be last, no point buying a PC and having it sat idle, going out of date while I build the rig.
I will start with exciters on the seat and a BK underneath the seat. That solution is well documented and I am reasonably happy with the hardware side of things. Though I have a bit of learning to do regarding different layers of effects and what effects available.
What I would like is your collective thoughts on is what is the best way to go with my pedals. My budget is not unlimited but I will need persuading to go for BK`s on the pedals (due to the cost of the units and amps), hence thinking of exciters.
It is easy for me to isolate each pedal and make individual isolated heel supports if required.
From reading the ideas of separately isolated pedals and supports I may be the first to do this so I do understand there will be some experimentation.
Isolated clutch heel support
Isolated combined brake / accelerator heel support
Isolated brake pedal
Exciter on the brake stem near my toes
Exciter on the heel plate of the clutch
Exciter on the heel support of the brake accelerator
The exciter on the brake stem will give brake feedback, though I am not sure what the other channel can do. Possibly the exciter on the brake stem can give front brake feedback and I can have the other channel somewhere on the seat to give rear brake feedback.
My right foot will operate the brake and accelerator with the heel going between the two so the exciter under the heel can give right channel stereo effects. Not sure what effect, possible front wheel slip.
The heel support exciter can be the left channel of the wheel slip.
Will I even feel exciters under the heels?
Any feedback welcome.