Lewis Hamilton Larbalestier

Stuart Thomson · Jun 29, 2010

Has someone actually edited Sergio's last message instead of quoting it?

Ivo has it as a quote, and that's the one that I read, but now, looking at his post, it's been cut up. What he originally said now resides in quotes, and someone has contradicted everything he said as body text, so it actually looks like Sergio himself is contradicting someone elses quote.

Editing someone's posts like that is pretty shoddy, imo.

Ivo Simons · Jun 29, 2010

Xosé Estrada said:
You can stop where you want, but that does not give you any reason, only arguments do. You can say you are not biased or whatever, but only arguments count

And thinking that if somebody changes a rule AFTER you broke it, so nobody can do the same you did anymore without get a penalty you did not get, is going against you, is against any logic.

Murder example again. I kill you, and after I do, if somebody kills other person he goes to jail, but I won't. Poor me.

Hamilton did get a penalty and cost him the win.

Xosé Estrada · Jun 29, 2010

Stuart Thomson said:
Has someone actually edited Sergio's last message instead of quoting it?

Probably me, but obviously by mistake.

Editing someone's posts like that is pretty shoddy, imo.

And suggest that was done on proppose when it was clearly a mistake (I'm answering point by point to his message) is even worse

Xosé Estrada · Jun 29, 2010

Ivo Simons said:
Hamilton did get a penalty and cost him the win.

In that particular case because it was really evident mate.

But I'm talking about others, some almost as clear as this one, like when he changed direction 7 times to avoid pretrov overtaking.

Ivo Simons · Jun 29, 2010

If it was so evident. Why didnt they give him a penalty direct in the race? And why changed the rule afterwards to punish him.
I dont care if he got a penalty. Like i said its like Football this week you score a goal in Offside position and next week your opponent it all evens out at the end of the season. But there is no need to search for FIA only helping Hamilton.

Stuart Thomson · Jun 29, 2010

I'm not sure why it's "obvious" and "clearly" a mistake, tbh.

Sérgio Marques · Jun 29, 2010

Xosé Estrada said:
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You can, but in this care, Hamilton could stick to the line just braking more in the midde of the chicane, but he decides tu jump it, see second 12.

You can only jump parts of the track if you have no chance to avoid it, Hamilton had chance, but he realized he will loose too much ground to Kimi on the exit.

Not Spa, Fuji 2008.

Xosé Estrada · Jun 29, 2010

Stuart Thomson said:
I'm not sure why it's "obvious" and "clearly" a mistake, tbh.

Because it's obvious that you like me have the Edit and the Quote buttons very close on the bottom of the editor, it has to be a Moderator or admin doing it, is obviously me answering and following the conversation, nothing in what he said was changed or edited just quoted to answer, I was quoting him like 1000 times before doing the same... well, not a single reason to edit his post and many hints to realize it was a button mistake.

Xosé Estrada · Jun 29, 2010

Ivo Simons said:
And why changed the rule afterwards to punish him.

That never happened, they changed the rule to clearify the situation and avoid OTHERS doing it in the future.

Again the murder example, why change a rule after you break it is punish you?

Stuart Thomson · Jun 29, 2010

Your name wasn't on it anywhere, hence why I asked.

If you (or whoever) had taken the time to answer someone's post point by point, but then that message hadn't appeared anywhere, I would expect that person to doublecheck what happened, notice the error and correct it. They hadn't, which is why - at the time - it looked deliberate. I didn't mention names or point fingers at anyone at any stage. I'd dropped out of participating in the conversation after my last point that, whatever decisions get made, someone will feel aggrieved.