F1 2011 Pre-Season Thread

kalniel · Mar 8, 2011

BBC team discussing McLaren woes and other teams from pre-season testing:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9418556.stm

Joe Bough · Mar 8, 2011

kalniel said:
BBC team discussing McLaren woes and other teams from pre-season testing:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9418556.stm

tbh, as Murray Walker said, you can gain bit's from Pre-season testing, but no-one will really know anything until the cars line up in Australia, and as they develop through the season. I did like the nose they ran today! lol

kalniel · Mar 9, 2011

Very amusing exchange between Gary Paffett and JB on twitter going on right now

http://twitter.com/garypaffett
http://twitter.com/JensonButton

ufunacaoenn · Mar 9, 2011

Unofficial Wednesday test times from Barcelona:
1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:21.865
2. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 1:22.396
3. Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 1:22.670
4. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 1:22.888
5. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:23.324
6. Paul di Resta, Force India, 1:24.334
7. Kamui Kobayashi, Sauber, 1:24.436
8. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes GP, 1:25.807
9. Jarno Trulli, Lotus, 1:26.090
10. Pastor Maldonado, Williams, 1:26.989
11. Jerome D’Ambrosio, Virgin, 1:28.982

ufunacaoenn · Mar 10, 2011

Unofficial Thursday test times from Barcelona:
1. Sergio Perez, Sauber, 1:21.761
2. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:22.092
3. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 1:22.466
4. Rubens Barrichello, Williams, 1:22.637
5. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:22.892
6. Nick Heidfeld, Renault, 1:23.541
7. Heikki Kovalainen, Lotus, 1:23.990
8. Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 1:24.233
9. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:24.334
10. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:24.779
11. Jerome D’Ambrosio, Virgin, 1:27.336
12. Jarno Trulli, Lotus, 1:34.485

ufunacaoenn · Mar 11, 2011

Unofficial Friday test times from Barcelona:
1. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:21.249
2. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:21.614
3. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes GP, 1:21.788
4. Nick Heidfeld, Renault, 1:22.073
5. Rubens Barrichello, Williams, 1:22.233
6. Kamui Kobayashi, Sauber, 1:22.315
7. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:22.675
8. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:22.933
9. Heikki Kovalainen, Lotus, 1:23.437
10. Paul di Resta, Force India, 1:22.653
11. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:23.921
12. Pastor Maldonado, Williams, 1:24.108
13. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:25.837
14. Jerome D’Ambrosio, Virgin, 1:27.375

ufunacaoenn · Mar 12, 2011

Unofficial Saturday test times from Barcelona:
1. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes GP, 1:43.814, 35 laps
2. Pastor Maldonado, Williams, 1:44.333, 23
3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 1:44.560, 33
4. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, no time, 5
5. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, no time, 5

Gary Ludlum · Mar 13, 2011

lol no testing for HRT, i have never seen such a noob team

Adam Eggbeer · Mar 13, 2011

It was unfortunate that some of their parts were stuck in Spanish customs.

Péter Bártfai · Mar 13, 2011

And we'll probably see them at the same place as last year, while Lotus and Virgin might improve and at least catch the midfield.

ufunacaoenn · Mar 13, 2011

Péter Bártfai said:
And we'll probably see them at the same place as last year, while Lotus and Virgin might improve and at least catch the midfield.

You have no evidence on the performance of the new HRT car so let's save that until Practice 1 around Melbourne.

Adam Eggbeer · Mar 13, 2011

I think it is pretty certain that Melbourne is going to be 3 days of testing for them. I really cannot see them doing anything like a Brawn GP and being on the pace straight away.

Omer Said · Mar 13, 2011

2011 Pyramid

Red Bull---Ferrari
Mercedes-McLaren-Renault
Toro Rosso-Sauber-Williams-Force India
Lotus---------------Virgin--------------HRT

(Better to the Right)

Most of people's prediction.

Yann Laprevotte · Mar 13, 2011

Same as last year basically?

Quite meaningless IMO, apart from the top 2 perhaps.

ufunacaoenn · Mar 14, 2011

Yann Laprevotte said:
Same as last year basically?

Quite meaningless IMO, apart from the top 2 perhaps.

What is meaningless...

David Chardar · Mar 16, 2011

Adam Eggbeer said:
I think it is pretty certain that Melbourne is going to be 3 days of testing for them. I really cannot see them doing anything like a Brawn GP and being on the pace straight away.

Hah!

I wouldn't be surprised if they still fielded their crappy F110 in Melbourne, blaming someone else for their poor planning and lack of funds.

ufunacaoenn · Mar 16, 2011

David Chardar said:
Hah!

I wouldn't be surprised if they still fielded their crappy F110 in Melbourne, blaming someone else for their poor planning and lack of funds.

Excuse me but have you owned a Formula 1 team? do you know what a team is going through both when it comes to politics and ekonomics?
I don't think so, HRT is probably the team with the worst budget on this years field of teams so stuff like this will be quite common for HRT until they get some support. (I actually don't know much about teams budget but from HRT's progress it seems like it)

David Chardar · Mar 17, 2011

No, but if I was the owner of HRT I would stop wasting everyone's time and money and let teams with real backing and a real car like Stefan GP on the grid, at least to respect the sport.

Although, I guess that since Stefan GP won't be using the Cosworth engine, the FIA won't let them in anyways.

ufunacaoenn · Mar 17, 2011

David Chardar said:
No, but if I was the owner of HRT I would stop wasting everyone's time and money and let teams with real backing and a real car like Stefan GP on the grid, at least to respect the sport.

Although, I guess that since Stefan GP won't be using the Cosworth engine, the FIA won't let them in anyways.

The only team wasting money in the 21st centary have been Honda and if you compare them to HRT then you will probably find that HRT is not wasting money but instead using them in the most effective way possible to make sure they can do the entire 2011 season. (I actually don't know if there have been an other team wasting money in the say Honda did but I took them just as an example.)

Joe Bough · Mar 17, 2011

Georgios Davakos said:
The only team wasting money in the 21st centary have been Honda and if you compare them to HRT then you will probably find that HRT is not wasting money but instead using them in the most effective way possible to make sure they can do the entire 2011 season. (I actually don't know if there have been an other team wasting money in the say Honda did but I took them just as an example.)

yep, the fact they are on a tight buget, forces them to spend it as wisely as possible