Cart Factor, GP79 & CSGT: Where is the fanbase?

Mark A Warmington · Oct 27, 2009

I seem to be one of those unique individuals that really likes the rFactor mods that seem to have very little interest in RD (not that RD has the lack of interest, rather that RD Club members seem to like other mods more :freaked-out

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I recall that RD tried to get interest going in Cart Factor a few months ago but got very little response to the race sign-ups (I myself struggled to sign up because RD was a very busy place at the time, with different events every night of the week).

I can't recall the last time a GP79 event was successfull (again due to sign ups) and I am now wondering whether or not the Classic Sportscar & Grand Touring mod would receive the same response.

So - I would just like to throw the question out there. How much interest is there in our hub-bub of a community for these mods? What would the chances be of getting 10-15 people together, someday, to race these classics?

GP79
Cart Factor
CSGT

Ivo Simons · Oct 31, 2009

The Cart mod is my favorite. The F1 mods are also great but i always like it more if it's American.

We had a great race at Mid Ohio wich everybody enjoyed. But after that there where almost no sign ups. I made direcly after the race a little movie about it.

Martin Bulgin · Oct 31, 2009

Nice movie Ivo, I think I took part in that race, I love open wheelers but must admit cart factor is not one of my favorites, I couldnt quite put my finger on it, but I only did the one race with it, I like the champ car mods though.

Ivo Simons · Oct 31, 2009

Haven't tried that one.

We have so much choice for a special events because to are alot of great mods out there.

Christian Lyngbye · Oct 31, 2009

Track proposals:
Kyalami
Phillip Island
Zolder
A1-Ring

Martin Bulgin · Oct 31, 2009

Ivo Simons said:
Haven't tried that one.
We have so much choice for a special events because to are alot of great mods out there.

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=2007 Champ Car World Series

Mark A Warmington · Oct 31, 2009

The Cart-Factor events were brilliant! I may be wrong but I think some of the reasoning behind the dwindling sign-ups was because at that time RD started putting on something different every night of the week (it was like an explosion of choice and possibilities

). The problem with that, I think, was that those who dabbled with rFactor then had so many other options and went to try them instead

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Can't blame RD at all, but I think it demonstrated acutely the problem with the rFactor fanbase (fickle I think was the word used earlier in the thread): we all have our own 'favourite' mod and therefore will be lured away very easiliy.

I know that I personally cannot jump in and out too frequently: I need to practice an event if I am going to enter - so a different tantalizing event each night means I have to focus on one and not the others (unless it is the same mod each night).

Such a shame that so many brilliant mods are sitting on the shelf just waiting to be played (kind of like Woody and his mates in Toy Story

).

Ivo Simons · Oct 31, 2009

Mark A Warmington said:
The Cart-Factor events were brilliant! I may be wrong but I think some of the reasoning behind the dwindling sign-ups was because at that time RD started putting on something different every night of the week (it was like an explosion of choice and possibilities ). The problem with that, I think, was that those who dabbled with rFactor then had so many other options and went to try them instead .

Can't blame RD at all, but I think it demonstrated acutely the problem with the rFactor fanbase (fickle I think was the word used earlier in the thread): we all have our own 'favourite' mod and therefore will be lured away very easiliy.

I know that I personally cannot jump in and out too frequently: I need to practice an event if I am going to enter - so a different tantalizing event each night means I have to focus on one and not the others (unless it is the same mod each night).

Such a shame that so many brilliant mods are sitting on the shelf just waiting to be played (kind of like Woody and his mates in Toy Story ).

Thats why we introduced the Clio cup. Fun cars wich are easy to learn on tracks people know. Instead of only "difficult" mods.
Cart Factor was being introduced at the time the Endurance mod also came out. And just like you said it's was a busy time in the Summer @ RD.

Ben Tusting · Nov 2, 2009

I think of it in a slightly different way,

Rfactor is about the cars/tracks race 07 don't have(Enduracers,Cart etc)
Specialist cars.
Because if i want to race smaller engined cars (Clio's), I would rather race the mini's on Evo.

Mark the mods kept changing because that seemed like the only way to get signups.

Mark A Warmington · Nov 2, 2009

Ben Tusting said:
Mark the mods kept changing because that seemed like the only way to get signups.

I know

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Eck Simpson · Nov 2, 2009

Ben Tusting said:
Rfactor is about the cars/tracks race 07 don't have(Enduracers,Cart etc)
Specialist cars.
Because if i want to race smaller engined cars (Clio's), I would rather race the mini's on Evo.

I'm absolutely positive, in previous threads on similar subjects, Bram has said something along the lines. All games, will be treated as seperate entities. Then, crossover doesn't exist. Any other game, with similar content, is irrelevant.

Its been said, that Race 07/Evo/STCC/Race On, is/has kinda taking/taken over. Atleast, in the psyche of some. And, as long as suggestions are shotdown, with exactly that mindset. You're not demonstrating anything to the contrary, you're reinforcing exactly that feeling.

Stuart Thomson · Nov 2, 2009

Ben Tusting said:
I think of it in a slightly different way,

Rfactor is about the cars/tracks race 07 don't have(Enduracers,Cart etc)
Specialist cars.

Couldn't agree less, personally.

It's got cars Race doesn't, but it's not about them and them alone.

Ben Tusting · Nov 3, 2009

Fair do, Opinions are Opinions

Ivo Simons · Nov 4, 2009

F1 88 is not in the poll but what do you guys think about that one?

Martin Bulgin · Nov 4, 2009

Ivo Simons said:
F1 88 is not in the poll but what do you guys think about that one?

I love F1 88 even more than GP79, the cars are awesome and dont take long to get the hang of if you can control your right foot

F1 88 and Silverstone 88 ahh heaven and I forgot to mention the sounds, some of them sound like they are screaming for mercy and they make your ears bleed :silly:

Rhys Gardiner · Nov 4, 2009

What Martin said, is all I'll say.

Ivo Simons · Nov 4, 2009

I always drive with a headset but with this mod i don't use it.

Richard Kay · Nov 4, 2009

Ben Tusting said:
I think of it in a slightly different way,

Rfactor is about the cars/tracks race 07 don't have(Enduracers,Cart etc)
Specialist cars.
Because if i want to race smaller engined cars (Clio's), I would rather race the mini's on Evo.

Mark the mods kept changing because that seemed like the only way to get signups.

I agree with Ben on this, I think fwd small cars are done far better in the Race series than the selection of rFactor mods. rFactor comes into it's own with the more specialized stuff like the open wheelers, LeMans and quirkier stuff like RallyCross. Talking of which, I'd love to see a mutliple heat style event run using RallyCross V2 on Lyddon Hill.

Martin Bulgin · Nov 4, 2009

I agree with Ben and Richard (never tried rally cross though) and that is a great vid Ivo

Ivo Simons · Nov 4, 2009

I understand that if you gonna use WTCC for rFactor then you're better of at Race on. Now you have the Clio cup wich Race on doesn't have and it's something new. But we are not trying to get Race on people to rFactor because they always stay at Race on no matter what you do, so we trying to get people from the other sims (Legends, Arca, RBR).

But i am planning a event every Sunday (maybe starting next week) with a specialist mod. Like CART, F1 88, F179 or maybe something else. Suggestions always welcome.