AMS Modding - Tracks (Work in progress)

[DeoraTwo]

I just thought about it now... what happened to Hockenheim? No rush though. I wouldn't want to model 30+ filled grandstands myself either.

 

[David Wright]

I just thought about it now... what happened to Hockenheim? No rush though. I wouldn't want to model 30+ filled grandstands myself either.

Don't know if its related but Hockenheim is one of planned DLC tracks.

 

[Patrick Giranthon]

Can someone find me a clear shot of winton pits please? 2015

 

[Ian Navarro]

Winton!!!!! Damn yesss! i love that track

 

[thuro76]

Mugello W.I.P. - test road X5-

 

[kapten_zoom]

Mugello W.I.P. - test road X5-

The road surface looks awesome Good job!

 

[JorritVD]

Can someone find me a clear shot of winton pits please? 2015

This helps?
http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/02/22/v8-supercars-teams-tackle-winton-test/
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/azdWBdej51M/maxresdefault.jpg
https://scontent.ftsr1-1.fna.fbcdn....=94c8dd2939c1c90c6a54108b96eaa64f&oe=5792FA74
https://scontent.ftsr1-1.fna.fbcdn....=78ea178798eaf93727190cedaae9835e&oe=57818A9B
https://scontent.ftsr1-1.fna.fbcdn....=6bd8ff27f093a8c237700ee03d52221f&oe=578007A0

 

[Patrick Giranthon]

Thanks Jorrit.

Last is good, but it seems that there are no ground marks, except the two white lines.
That is my interrogation in fact. I have a defaulttexture with many things, and reality seems more simple.

 

[MrCrowley]

Hi Patrick.
yep just the two lines in the pits at Winton Raceway.

 

[Patrick Giranthon]

 

[JorritVD]

@Patrick Giranthon
If you once have time, maybe you can put YETIsaj's scratch made LeMans to AMS. It is by far the best version I have ever driven. It is also used by Darren Turner's Base Performance simulations and added DT's feedback to the track.

 

[Patrick Giranthon]

In my mind it was not finished. Perhaps now it is ok

 

[DeoraTwo]

Don't know if its related but Hockenheim is one of planned DLC tracks.

Wow I even read the DLC plans and didn't make the connection.

 

[Ricky78]

In my mind it was not finished. Perhaps now it is ok

In fact it's still the old unfinished beta release...

 

[StoneColdSpider]

Hey Patrick

What do the different seasons change for the tracks??
Is it just a change to what time the sun sets??? or does it also change track grip??

 

[Patrick Giranthon]

I did not push details to this level at the moment. Perhaps later
It is only cosmetic, to change a bit between races/cars

 

[Gijs van Elderen]

Hey Patrick

What do the different seasons change for the tracks??
Is it just a change to what time the sun sets??? or does it also change track grip??

Colder track temps doesn't mean less grip. Track temperatures doesn't change the track grip value in the .tdf file.

It's the tires that response to temperatures. It's most likly you'll have more grip during winter then on a hot summer day. (Less tire heat.)

If you watched the 24h lemans: Happy hour is at sun rise. Track/air is coldest and moist is evaporating. Cool dry air = Good conditions for mechanics, brakes and tires.
During the 24h zolder fastest lap times were recorded at night.
During my trackday at Spa in march last year. It was near freezing and a clear sunny sky. i've set the best lap times at Spa. But this was more due cold air = more power in the engine.

 

[fortyfivekev]

During my trackday at Spa in march last year. It was near freezing and a clear sunny sky. i've set the best lap times at Spa. But this was more due cold air = more power in the engine.

Very true. I've been to a lot of F3 meetings over the years and at power circuits those cars often seemed to be quicker in the first cooler session of the day. I guess the air restrictors make them very sensitive to air density whereas some cars benefit from more rubber going down so would be quicker in later sessions. Environmental modelling in consumer sims still seems to be at an early stage for this kind of thing.

 

[Gringo]

Environmental modelling in consumer sims still seems to be at an early stage for this kind of thing.

I wonder if the limit is still in how much can you actually model in "real time".

Computer power has come a long way for sure, but the number of computations required to model "all" of the variables that would make an effect is very large and you need to do them practically instantaneously.

Look at AC... a lot several of the common (physics) details have been considered unimportant (or necessary compromise) by the dev's to keep the frame times to a minimum (imo).

Good info in this vid in case you have not seen it yet. (jump to 0:47 to make my point)

 

[PATR10T]

you guys should not forget that even a "simulation" is still just a game i think some real values are not really needed in a game... a physic should be close to real for sure but things like different engine power because of different track height or air temperature are a bit too off... to calculate all these values what you have on real would need a lot computer power... in the end for all this you would need more than a current high end pc... its still just a game where people want to have fun with cars they cant drive on real