Alright when was that again.....?

[Ardylicious]

In other words, sports should be completely accepting of racism and can not take a stance against it

This exacerbates it. The movement has created more rifts. It has not achieved anything. You can not have one without the other. The tactic is total virtue signalling.

 

[386]

This exacerbates it. The movement has created more rifts. It has not achieved anything. You can not have one without the other. The tactic is total virtue signalling.

I don't want to keep arguing but now you are pivoting to something unrelated, We are talking about this car and the sport of F1, not the entire movement.

 

[Ardylicious]

Evidently you don't understand how sport works.

Enlighten me.

 

[5-Card-Major]

I keep watching the Formula 1 series on Netflix over and over...'Formula 1: Drive To Survive'.

Watch Formula 1: Drive to Survive | Netflix Official Site

Drivers, managers and team owners live life in the fast lane — both on and off the track — during each cutthroat season of Formula 1 racing.

www.netflix.com

And the one on Amazon which focused on McLaren for the 1st season (2017) if I remember right.
Here it is... https://www.amazon.com/Change-is-in...rmula+1&qid=1593444889&s=instant-video&sr=1-6

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

Physics. In the visible spectrum, black is the absorption of all colors. ... A black pigment can, however, result from a combination of several pigments that collectively absorb all colors. If appropriate proportions of three primary pigments are mixed, the result reflects so little light as to be called "black".


In additive color mixing, like light, all the colors combined create white. Consider a prism and imagine the process in reverse. In subtractive color mixing, like paint, all the colors combined create black. ... Red, Blue, and Yellow can appear (when mixed in the right proportions) to make black, but it's actually brown.

We are both right.

oh, damn, I was going to point that out, but you beat me to it. good point.

 

[Scott Borchardt]

"END RACISM" on the halo. Toto Wolff clearly presented the black livery as supporting the cause of antiracism.

Oh of course!!!!! There it is.... I can see it now with my magnifiying glass! That just makes it even MORE lame as that will really show up on TV at 200mph.

 

[graham123]

can we have white tyres now

 

[Ardylicious]

I don't want to keep arguing but now you are pivoting to something unrelated, We are talking about this car and the sport of F1, not the entire movement.

Neither do i. And it is very much related. Sadly we don't agree. Move on.

 

[Ardylicious]

can we have white tyres now

That would look so cool . Haha

 

[Chappers9882]

Enlighten me.

Can we just not enjoy a sport without been fed moral bullshit?

The WADA Code goes on to state that ‘The spirit of sport is the celebration of the human spirit, body and mind’. This is reflected in the values we find in and through sport including: ethics, fair play and honesty; health; excellence in performance and fun and joy.

Is the above statement moralistic? Is it BS? How is this statement different from those being made in recent weeks that you disagree with?

 

[iZ GunDaM]

Nice livery.

Always liked black on F1 cars, just like the classic Lotus 72 JPS.
Same with the tradionally silver arrows.

<OT>
Call my cynical...

In the end this is just marketing mixed with corporate virtue signaling, all superficial and of little real consequence - it won’t change any of the real social injustice in the world. Just like much of the current protesting, statue toppling and name changing - all superficial and of little lasting consequence. After this round of window dressing those who are exploiting inequality today, wlll continue to exploit inequality tomorrow and those who are being exploited today will continue to be exploited tomorrow.

Most of this is just a big distraction.
<OT OFF>

Now back to racing

Agreed, racing can't come soon enough, man...

 

[Ardylicious]

Can we just not enjoy a sport without been fed moral bullshit?

The WADA Code goes on to state that ‘The spirit of sport is the celebration of the human spirit, body and mind’. This is reflected in the values we find in and through sport including: ethics, fair play and honesty; health; excellence in performance and fun and joy.

Is the above statement moralistic? Is it BS? How is this statement different from those being made in recent weeks that you disagree with?

I don't disagree with any of it. Its how you interpret it that makes it very precarious. There is a difference between force feeding and general concern. And from Mercedes? This has been answered above.

 

[Chappers9882]

I don't disagree with any of it. Its how you interpret it that makes it very precarious. There is a difference between force feeding and general concern. And from Mercedes? This has been answered above.

Could you choose to interpret what Mercedes is doing in a different way?

 

[Chappers9882]

I don't disagree with any of it. Its how you interpret it that makes it very precarious. There is a difference between force feeding and general concern. And from Mercedes? This has been answered above.

Also, that statement is forced upon all Olympic athletes and they are banned if they don't follow it.

 

[Ardylicious]

Could you choose to interpret what Mercedes is doing in a different way?

I have answered it above.

 

[Ardylicious]

Also, that statement is forced upon all Olympic athletes and they are banned if they don't follow it.

You should read deconstructionism. Haha

 

[Mike Smith]

I sincerely do not get it. Show me the numbers on Mercedes' diversity within staff as opposed to average numbers in the relevant slice of population and we might start a meaningful discussion about race. But painting a car black? Beats me.

The way I think about it is in the context of specific support. I'm old enough to remember the effect of 9/11. Here in North America you'd see random people wearing NYPD or NYFD shirts and hats. It wasn't saying all other police and fire departments don't matter, it was a showing of support for a specific subset of people.

So when someone sports a shirt saying "Black Lives Matter", it doesn't mean that any other life does not matter, it's just a showing of support for a specific group or cause. In the context of this new Mercedes livery, I don't know for certain of course, but I suspect the cause they are targeting is equality of opportunity in motorsports specifically, but also the greater cause of equality in society.

This comment section is littered with many opinions generally falling into "why am I supposed to bear guilt for something I didn't do", or "don't white lives matter", or "when will all of this virtue signalling stop", or "this is nothing but pandering to a hot topic". All of these are interesting points, and it would take more than a forum comment to unpack the nuances of them, but for me the big takeaway is that a large and influential corporation is making a public statement against racism, which I think we can all agree is a good stance even if you don't agree with how it's being expressed. And to tie things back to my original point, wearing an FDNY shirt didn't solve terrorism, but it showed solidarity. That's all I take Mercedes' gesture to mean.

 

[PoopMan]

Why can't it be a white car?

 

[Steve Worrell]

I think it looks great in Black. I also like the show of support to end racism. Nice stuff from Merc in my book.

 

[PickABetterUsername01]

Why can't it be a white car?

Hamilton would end up bitching on social media lol.

This proves how easy it's for corporates to pretty much do nothing and still look like they care about something, people go out like "damn look at merc, they are so inclusive! such support!".