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Discussion in 'RD Touring Car Championship' started by Bram Hengeveld, Jan 9, 2008.
I second those two suggestions.
I agree with Oliver on the pre-quali lap limit. I think this is fair for everyone.
I want said It was a successful leagues.
Though some people made trouble. Luckily RD earnest solving the problem.
I believe people learn from mistakes. Also I learn more in this season.
Wonderful memory for me........
Thanks RaceDepartment excellence and professional.:thumb:
i'm with sebastien.
Maybe some more laps (with Pitstop). And next season with my own car:becky:
definitely agree with a fixed amount of qualifying laps, and also the success ballast is a great idea, although how it would be integrated would be confusing, would it be added for qually or just for the 2 race sessions on the day?
changeable weather would be good too, may cause mayhem but may add to the realism also.
A league I know use the same ballast system as the real WTCC uses and it really works great, it's a little confussing though I guess with 4 groups you could work out the ballast on championship standings and wins or something.
Success ballast (SB) applies throughout the whole event, not just a single race. SB always applies to the driver, not the car.
SB is calculated as following:
a) according to the Championship points: 1 kg per every point scored
b) according to the sum of points obtained in the two races of each event, according to the following scale:
1st + 30 kg
2nd + 25 kg
3rd + 20 kg
4th + 15 kg
5th + 10 kg
6th + 5 kg
These ballasts will be scrapped and recalculated after each championship event.
Handicap weights a) and b) are cumulative up to a maximum of 70 kg
- no pre-qual
- fix groups
- real points
- weight penalty system
maybe its best for a pro season. (i think)
could there actually be a championship for premium and another for trial? or shall i just wait for my turn?
i'm with the ballast idea
I liked last year system better were you qualied once before the championship started then either you got promoted to a faster group if you were on the top and if you were among the last you got shiped over to a slower group.
Anybody going to make a movie of group 3 race 2? :thumb:
Henrik i don't like your idea at all. It should be kept the same way
I don't think fixed groups are the way to go, but pre-qual should be limited to maybe 12 laps (just like old Formula 1 ).
I'm all for the weight penalty system, that would be interesting. Real points are hard to do as you have 100 drivers, if you fix groups completely it will be unfair - as people who improve over the course of the season won't really be rewarded.
Nice point Ryan
I agree, that was quite a good system, however it only works with everybody having a chance to enter a race, in this case 8 grids. Who is going to admin that amount?
I enjoyed the racing alot and liked the closeness of it, there were some bad drivers in the league, btu they seem to have been banned now
I didnt like pre-quali idea much to be honest and the 4 groups part. I would rather be in 1 group all the time racing against similar and regular drivers who you can get to know which will also help in making cleaner racing.
idea to form the grid for next year below!
Ideas for next years grid determination:
Another way to do it is to get rid of pre-quali
And instead we have a pre-season qualification on say 2 different tracks (different types)
And this is used to determine which groups everyone goes into.
You then have seperate championships and race with the same people regulary which will improve the racing too in my mind!
It would make the championship mean something to those in the lower groups as they will be fighting with similar paced drivers and not the pro aliens!
It would keep the same idea of having similar paced people together for close racing too.
The odd ball problem is what to do about mid season sign ups? I guess the best way would be to get them to do their 'own' pre season qualification on the 2 tracks everyone else did and then if there is space let them into that group.
I like your idea's like have 4 different championship / series, one for the Pro's like the main championship and then the lower series for the slower guys, like in Formula Sim Racing, but the big down side to this is it will take allot more admins and admin power.
Next year's Touring Car Championship will likely use fixed grids and multiple classes. We're thinking of having a Mini class, a WTCC Extreme class and one or multiple classes with WTCC/STCC cars. But we'll first have to see how RDGTC goes. It will likely affect how we organise RDTCC 2009.
Thanks for your input and keep it coming! :thumb:
im havn't raced in this league but has watched some replays, all results, discussions etc.
it seems like it was a lot of fun, and i would like to join next time.
in a league at another community we are using weight penalty system. and i actually think it sucks and its very boring imo.
Yep I am not a fan of weight penalties either to be honest
Pre quali with limited laps or...
Fixed groups like divisions. If it could be arranged in some way to prevent 8 divisions with 10 drivers each after half the season it would be good.
I would also like harder punishments. As I wrote before READ and FOLLOW the rules and no excuses!
And please please no city tracks
There is also an option that every driver can use a car limited races, but that of course will put more load to the admins.