Watch: Why OverTake Finds Automobilista 2 v1.5 to be Awesome


Reiza Studios has released the big v1.5 update for Automobilista 2 last week, making the simulation take arguably its biggest step forward to date. But how good is it really? Emily Jones has taken a closer look at the new version for OverTake to see what the excitement is all about.

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After discovering unwanted interference from an older tire model that the AI still uses, Reiza has reworked the physics to prevent false data from having an influence on the driving feel of the cars - as a result, all cars except karts have seen a revision for v1.5, some with enormous improvements, some with smaller changes. Still, the result is a much more cohesive feel across all vehicles, and the general consesus among sim racers seems to be positive.

Of course, whether a car feels positive or not is also highly subjective, at least in part. Emily focuses on numerous positive elements, but also adds a certain characteristic that might not be everyone's cup of tea to the discussion. Of course, a closer look at the new Adrenaline Pack Pt 1 DLC has to be taken as well.


As it is the easiest discipline to compare AMS2 to other sims with, Emily steps into the cockpit of a GT3 vehicle, too. How does the sim stack up against other titles that feature the arguably most popular class of race cars both in the real world and in sim racing? Watch the video to find out her take on the matter.

If you have not done so already, take a look at the in-depth interview we conducted with Reiza's founder and Lead Developer Renato Simioni about the work that went into v1.5 and AMS2's philosophy in general. Additionally, you can take a look at our v1.5 release article including the full changelog here.

Your Thoughts​

Do you agree with Emiliy's take on AMS2's big update? What car and track combinations do you suggest others should try to enjoy the title the most? Let us know in the comments below!

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Some cars behave like boats in the deep ocean and others like a crazy ex that is glued to your life , just try the McLaren GT3 and tell me that thats how a gt3 should behave, lol.ç
Renato and his tribe should try some sport cars on track before droping the real deal car physic revolution.
I dont really find this update to be the real Nirvana
PD: AMS2 still is not better than ams1, you can feel the project car engine in the cars... Depending on the car u test is more or less realistic as a sim. I hope they can improve it!

LOL, there's a life beyond GT3 in AMS2.
 
i dont own any F1 games but they deserves alot more respect than they get given F1 23 has decent VR & wheel support, i honestly wish more casual aimed car games like Need For Speed, Forza or Grid would come out with VR, would be awesome fun
 
Some cars behave like boats in the deep ocean and others like a crazy ex that is glued to your life , just try the McLaren GT3 and tell me that thats how a gt3 should behave, lol.ç
Renato and his tribe should try some sport cars on track before droping the real deal car physic revolution.
I dont really find this update to be the real Nirvana
PD: AMS2 still is not better than ams1, you can feel the project car engine in the cars... Depending on the car u test is more or less realistic as a sim. I hope they can improve it!
Dude finnaly someone recognizes how good ams1 is. I want to like ams2 so bad, but every time I drive it I'm just reminded how much better the first one drives.
 
Who is this girl and why is her opinion - regardless whether good, bad, or neutral - so important and valued that it's being presented on the RD site?

The 60s F1 cars are understeery and impossible to spin. Somehow they react strangely to load changes, the car feels like it's attached to a rubber band.
I've noticed this in AMS2 for years with just about all cars. It's like the way the cars go into slip and back into grip is like a rubber-band / tension effect or something. It's so pronounced that you don't even have to play the game to notice it; it's easily visible just in videos alone. It's like the vehicle doesn't always want to go back into grip in an organic way. It also makes it look like the car re-gains grip in a pre-defined or scripted way rather than naturally based on the physics happening (steering application, throttle application, slip percentage, torque being applied to the tyres, etc. etc.).

It's often very noticeable in an oversteer situation once the initial slide is caught - the portion of the oversteer where the slip angle stops increasing - the car then suddenly snaps back to 0 slip-angle in a sort of instantaneous rubber-band tension snap that looks scripted and very repetitive rather than the slip-angle being reduced to 0 in an organic, natural way accordingly to the driver's inputs. It does not resemble how a real vehicle behaves in any way, shape, or form. It seems "robotic" and videogame like.
 
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Who is this girl and why is her opinion - regardless whether good, bad, or neutral - so important and valued that it's being presented on the RD site?
Her name is Emily Jones. She is a professional sim racer from Melbourne Australia, incredibly skilled and very very quick. If the opinion of someone like that isn't worth presenting on a sim racing site, who is?

Just one example - Porsche think "this girl" was worth listening to after she won the 2021 Porsche TAG Heuer Esports Supercup All-Star series on iRacing: https://motorsports.porsche.com/international/en/article/2021/07/29/pesc-2021-emree-interview
 
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AMS2 v1.5 is a fantastic improvemend and I really liked the version before! It feels so good and predictable. Great job Reiza! Please concentrate now on the online mode and get your sim into LFM. That would bring the boost you deserve!
 
Truly spoken like someone who didn't even play F1 "2023", you even misnamed the game. F1 games are simulations by general gaming standards, and only not deserving the name among the snobbish simracers, who are the only people calling them arcade, as a way of cheap insult.

Project Cars 2 has admittedly more complex physics engine than F1 games, but to the point of being too much for its own good. The physics in PC2 are fundamentally flawed, leading to cars behaving very unrealistically, much less so than F1 cars in Codies games, or than cars in racing sims of old age, like rFactor, GTR2 or Live For Speed. That level of complexity led to Reiza working on it for several years before reaching a level of acceptable improvement, and some weird characteristics of PC2 are still to be dealt with, for example excessive sliding in some high downforce cars.

Sometimes less is more. It's easier to achieve realism with proper scope. I'd rather take a somewhat simplified experience that drives properly than turbonuclear physic models that take flies dying in your radiator into account, but which drive like a hovercraft instead of a car.
if F1 2023 is a simulation I am a coffee machine.
 
Some cars behave like boats in the deep ocean and others like a crazy ex that is glued to your life , just try the McLaren GT3 and tell me that thats how a gt3 should behave, lol.ç
Renato and his tribe should try some sport cars on track before droping the real deal car physic revolution.
I dont really find this update to be the real Nirvana
PD: AMS2 still is not better than ams1, you can feel the project car engine in the cars... Depending on the car u test is more or less realistic as a sim. I hope they can improve it!
Automobilista 1 was (is) fantastic. So it's not a matter to be hater or not, the problem is the AMS2 physics engine.
 
Truly spoken like someone who didn't even play F1 "2023", you even misnamed the game. F1 games are simulations by general gaming standards, and only not deserving the name among the snobbish simracers, who are the only people calling them arcade, as a way of cheap insult.

Project Cars 2 has admittedly more complex physics engine than F1 games, but to the point of being too much for its own good. The physics in PC2 are fundamentally flawed, leading to cars behaving very unrealistically, much less so than F1 cars in Codies games, or than cars in racing sims of old age, like rFactor, GTR2 or Live For Speed. That level of complexity led to Reiza working on it for several years before reaching a level of acceptable improvement, and some weird characteristics of PC2 are still to be dealt with, for example excessive sliding in some high downforce cars.

Sometimes less is more. It's easier to achieve realism with proper scope. I'd rather take a somewhat simplified experience that drives properly than turbonuclear physic models that take flies dying in your radiator into account, but which drive like a hovercraft instead of a car.
This arcade game is not called F1 2023? Ok, I take note, can you inform me about its real title so that I don't buy it by mistake please? They're all bad anyway. Only the graphics on console, good joystick playability for the majority of people who are not lucky enough to have a good steering wheel and the official license make it a block buster.
For the rest of your comments, where you still say that you judge AMS2 according to videos on Youtube!!!!????? , having nevertheless 44 years of driving (normal and intensive karting) + tests of certain sports and rally cars and also decades of arcade car games since the beginning of the 80s through Grand Prix (the first ) but also the very good arcade sims like the first Gt and Forza (from 1 to 4 in the best team in France with several national championships and a ranking in the 50 best in the world (27th on Mapple Valley (which is not written perhaps - be not like that by the way, but who cares!)) and a knowledge for years of real simulations like AC; ACC, RF1 and 2, etc... I can certify you that Ams2 is a very great simulation, with faults but above all a lot of qualities.
For the rest listen to the comments of the Australian player, she is a real pro.
Do you like your F1 game?
Stunning!
Good fun.
 
This arcade game is not called F1 2023? Ok, I take note, can you inform me about its real title so that I don't buy it by mistake please? They're all bad anyway. Only the graphics on console, good joystick playability for the majority of people who are not lucky enough to have a good steering wheel and the official license make it a block buster.
For the rest of your comments, where you still say that you judge AMS2 according to videos on Youtube!!!!????? , having nevertheless 44 years of driving (normal and intensive karting) + tests of certain sports and rally cars and also decades of arcade car games since the beginning of the 80s through Grand Prix (the first ) but also the very good arcade sims like the first Gt and Forza (from 1 to 4 in the best team in France with several national championships and a ranking in the 50 best in the world (27th on Mapple Valley (which is not written perhaps - be not like that by the way, but who cares!)) and a knowledge for years of real simulations like AC; ACC, RF1 and 2, etc... I can certify you that Ams2 is a very great simulation, with faults but above all a lot of qualities.
For the rest listen to the comments of the Australian player, she is a real pro.
Do you like your F1 game?
Stunning!
Good fun.
I have the feeling you could also make me a coffee...
 
i dont own any F1 games but they deserves alot more respect than they get given F1 23 has decent VR & wheel support, i honestly wish more casual aimed car games like Need For Speed, Forza or Grid would come out with VR, would be awesome fun
yep VR is the real inmersion and i support this kind of free roam games or sims to be enjoyed with vR.
Just lets hope in some years our retinas can read something! :p
 
AMS2 v1.5 is a fantastic improvemend and I really liked the version before! It feels so good and predictable. Great job Reiza! Please concentrate now on the online mode and get your sim into LFM. That would bring the boost you deserve!
Yep if they can not build a competition system then

LFM would be the way to go and grow!

rf2 is benefiting from that.


PD: Yep, i discovered the colour tool :p
 
This arcade game is not called F1 2023? Ok, I take note, can you inform me about its real title so that I don't buy it by mistake please? They're all bad anyway. Only the graphics on console, good joystick playability for the majority of people who are not lucky enough to have a good steering wheel and the official license make it a block buster.
For the rest of your comments, where you still say that you judge AMS2 according to videos on Youtube!!!!????? , having nevertheless 44 years of driving (normal and intensive karting) + tests of certain sports and rally cars and also decades of arcade car games since the beginning of the 80s through Grand Prix (the first ) but also the very good arcade sims like the first Gt and Forza (from 1 to 4 in the best team in France with several national championships and a ranking in the 50 best in the world (27th on Mapple Valley (which is not written perhaps - be not like that by the way, but who cares!)) and a knowledge for years of real simulations like AC; ACC, RF1 and 2, etc... I can certify you that Ams2 is a very great simulation, with faults but above all a lot of qualities.
For the rest listen to the comments of the Australian player, she is a real pro.
Do you like your F1 game?
Stunning!
Good fun.
wow it began being about the game then i realized that it was about your curriculum.
Impresive!
 
Her name is Emily Jones. She is a professional sim racer from Melbourne Australia, incredibly skilled and very very quick. If the opinion of someone like that isn't worth presenting on a sim racing site, who is?

Just one example - Porsche think "this girl" was worth listening to after she won the 2021 Porsche TAG Heuer Esports Supercup All-Star series on iRacing: https://motorsports.porsche.com/international/en/article/2021/07/29/pesc-2021-emree-interview
And here I was thinking your answer was the whole truth...until I noticed that it literally says "POWERED BY OVERTAKE" at the top of the RD website and "OVERTAKE" in big, bold letters at the bottom of the RD website.

Sure, being a good simracer with some good simracing credentials is a positive but it's clearly because she's part of this "overtake" group that RD has selled out too.
 
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