Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 TT 12

Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 TT 12 1.0

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Honestly I'm kinda sad about the rating I have to give to this car, because it looks great, it handles and sprints fantastically being so light and it's just great in corners... perhaps too great.
Downforce figures are seems above those of cars from the same era, according to the Wings App this car has 700kg at 300km/h, which sounds kinda for a '73 car that doesn't even have a diffuser.
To give a context, in game that's the same downforce of the much bigger Porsche 917/30, while according to some data found on http://www.mulsannescorner.com/data.html cars of similar age and shape like the 936 don't even reach 400kg at 300km/h.

Wrapping up, it would be a 5/5 for fun, but this is supposed to be a simulator :(
rmi_wood
rmi_wood
harsh on the stars :(

I have been re-making physics on the "C" version and the aero is closer to what you describe. Future update will eliminate the non-C version completely.
The car is modeled with attention to detail in its appearance and handles very well. After lots of tuning, I was able to get very comfortable with the car, and remained competitive against 95+/-5% AI strength, racing in the same car. The sound is beautiful, it's a blast to drive, and overall has been a great experience. I love this mod, and despite some difficulties learning the car and tuning it, it's been the only car I've driven for about three weeks.

Some criticism I have is that the rear wheels pop through the top of the car during compression, and even just normal acceleration, with the stock tune. The stock setup has the ride height at maximum and the spring rate towards a middle-soft setting. Not initially knowing this, I ended up lowering the car a lot, so my rear wheels were constantly sticking out of the car. To get the wheels to not stick out, I had to completely retune the suspension to be much harder in the rear, and raise the rear ride height to maximum.

Additionally, since the car is lighter in the front than the rear, I wanted to make the front overall spring rate lower than the rear. I had to go to extremes to do so, making the rear nearly as "stiff" as possible while the front nearly as "soft" as possible. The stock tune has the front end stiffer than the rear, which seems to mitigate oversteer and give stability during acceleration. This is okay, however I prefer adjusting oversteer/understeer and stability/agility with damping, anti-roll bars, and diff settings. I then try to match the car's weight distribution to the front and rear spring rates, and generally the dampers as well. With the way the tuning sliders are, this was pretty difficult, as the sliders don't accurately represent the real settings of the car.

In order to look at the actual spring and damping rates, I had to use the Track Engineer application. The tuning sliders look misleading, because even when the rear spring rate is as high as possible in the tuning menu, it can still be a lower value in Hz than the front, as seen through the Track Engineer application. The damping sliders are also misleading because it can look as if the front rebound rates can be much higher than the rear, but in all truth, the rear rebound settings adjust in much larger increments than the front. The front bump dampening can also be higher than the rear when the rear is set to "3" and the front is set to "2", which is pretty confusing.

Essentially, I feel the tuning sliders for spring rate could be more adjustable, some of the sliders could be adjusted in smaller increments, and for the sliders to accurately represent the actual spring rates and damper settings. Without the Track Engineer app, I don't think I could've tuned this car accurately.

Regardless, once all that was worked out, the car has been fantastic. I can't wait to learn the Targa Florio in this thing. Thank you for such a great mod!
rmi_wood
rmi_wood
Thanks for the review. You can unpack the data.acd and edit the setup.ini to expand the adjustment range. I have alot of projects and hope to revisit the mod and clean up a few things setting etc with input from the comments.
cheers!
This is a beautiful model with physics that I can't really complain about. I obviously have never driven one of these in real life but With the type of tires this has and how much it weighs I think the physics are pretty good. The engine sounds amazing!
By far my favourite car to drive in AC right now, i hope to see more of this anytime soon. Early 70s cars are easily forgotten, but the Tipo 33, every version of it, is legendary!
rmi_wood
rmi_wood
thanks!
Wow, this car is a hoot! I've never driven anything like this in real life, so it's hard to judge accuracy, but it certainly drives convincingly.....like a big powerful go-kart! Reminds me of modern "locked in" high performance GT cars, but a little less refined and loose....as would be expected! The sounds are great too, even the loud "rapp-rapp" sound when taking off in 1st at low RPM. I was surprised to see how (relatively) easy it is to drift...again, no idea if the real one is like that, but it sure is fun. Nice work!
Thanks for this beauty !
Thank very much. Very good.
Updated review post Physics update:

Much better, more enjoyable, and convincingly realistic/squishy to drive. The only thing missing is really high-quality sounds, but I understand those are incredibly difficult and time-consuming to make.
Nice dude!
Great job, thank you!
Fantastic! A lo of fun to drive. Looks and sounds great!
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Thank you for creating such a high-quality and extremely addicting car for Assetto Corsa. Everything about this Alfa looks, sounds, and feels spot-on.
Fantastic car Mr. Wood, many thanks for sharing!
Thank you
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What a glorious car to drive - thank you so much. It has a beautiful balance of speed and road-holding, but still allows you to slide it around too.

Fantastico!!
The mod drives like it's on rails, older cars shouldn't be this grippy. They didn't race on F1 slicks, they were deathtraps contained solely by aero, one mistake and you're gone. This is more like what driving an RC kit of the Alfa would feel like.
Bravo!!!! Five stars
EXCELLENT. SOMETHING WHICH WAS MISSING FROM A.C.
WHAT ABOUT 33TT3 ?
Outstanding. Ran 40 laps at Watkins Glen with it this morning.
Great car, though I did swap the sounds for the Kunos 312T.
rmi_wood
rmi_wood
It is a tough choice, of course I tried many... i do like the 33 sound more. Maybe someone will do an awesome sound mod. Thanks for the compliment and critique :)

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