We need to talk about Max Verstappen
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Daniel has more experience and it shows. But one thing: You win and lose as a team. When a team makes a mistake with Daniel in Barcelona that does not mean that Max is not deserving the win. The team around Max made the right decision. PLUS Max is great with preserving his tires.
"win and lose as a team" I really hate that saying. It's complete bull****. Ricciardo was doing a perfect job up front and his team let him down! Max lucked into that win. The same team that let Ricciardo down handed the win to Max. Also the "win and lose as a team" bull**** does not explain Red Bull making the biggest **** up in recent F1 history. Why should Ricciardo have to accept defeat as a team when he was let down completely
Motorsports is a TEAMSPORT. Sorry for you to say that, but if you win you do this not just because you are good, but also because the team gives you a good car, gives you the right tires, gives you the right strategy. Then when the team makes a mistake, BAD LUCK. Sorry!
I don't view it completely as a team sport. F1 drivers are out there to win for themselves. They want to win a drivers championship. You never have a driver who simply aims to win the constructors championship and not the drivers championship
You are not getting my point.
What's the point? Ricciardo should just accept he was screwed over?
yes. its a part of racing.
He doesn't complain when the team is doing a great job when he wins!
He doesn't complain when the team is doing a great job when he wins!
No, he thanks the team for doing a good job, like any other normal driver
However, he had every right to slate Red Bull after Monaco. He shouldn't have just accepted defeat because Red Bull cocked up big time. At Spain, well Red Bull costed him not only a win but a podium as well
In Spain Red Bull decided to copy the Ferrari's strategy. Ricardo got Vettel's, Max had Kimi's, which was in the end the better on. End of story.
It 's pretty clear that everyone has their favorite driver and a least favorite one (the hated one).
It 's pretty clear that everyone has their favorite driver and a least favorite one (the hated one).
They could of told Daniel that though instead of saying everyone is on the same strategy. And why the **** would you copy Ferrari, Ferrari have no clue when it comes to strategy
Both Daniel and Max were on the same strategy, but Max could save his tires so they kept him out and thus copied kimi's strategy.
btw: Hamilton and Alonso are backing Max' defense tactics.
btw: Hamilton and Alonso are backing Max' defense tactics.
And JB, Vettel and Raikkonen aren't happy, as I say way too often, what's your point, Toto said he was dangerous as well.
Ricciardo could have made the end as well. Think of it like this, if Red Bull kept Max aen Daniel on the same strategy, they would have been 1-2
disagree.
Ahhh, I miss the old disagree rating!
I managed like 46 disagree's on one post once upon a time, and they took that away from me!
Both were on a 2-stop strategy. They kept Max out when they saw that Max' lap times were not increasing that much as Daniels. But ok. Is it bad to disagree? At least when you get 46 disagrees yeah...
Yes, but Max wasn't going to overtake Ricciardo. Same strategy, would have been a 1-2. Instead, they ****ed Ricciardo over and got a 1-4.
No I like when people disagree. I find these debates entertaining, and it's good to debate
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Sorry, i had to come back for this.... saw fp1 fp2 fp3 singapore?? Ric 0.5 behind ;-) Or did the team put Max in front? with a better engine, better tyres, better food, better drinks.
Sorry, I don't focus on such meaningless sessions like Free Practice. If free practice mattered, we would all be laughing how Hamilton is 1.5 seconds slower than Rosberg
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Great to have you back, did you see qualifying?! I certainly did and Ricciardo beat Verstappen once again! Once again, Ricciardo has proved why he is the better driver
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