We need to talk about Max Verstappen

[Jeff]

lol u stil going at this ?

Just enjoy the battle, they are both great drivers.

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

lol u stil going at this ?

Yep

 

[RoMaN14]

I don't view it completely as a team sport. F1 drivers are out there to win for themselves. They want to win a drivers championship.

F1 is a team sport, end of. You can't win the driver's championship without a good car for the same reason you can't win the constructor's without 2 decent drivers. It may be the old 80-20, but it's absolutely a team sport.

 

[Erwin Greven]

Yep

He is going on till the other quits, which means the other guy loses.
And yes Daniel is at the moment the better, or to be more precise, more complete driver. Max knows he has to step up his game in qualification. And that is good, he knows that there is a huge terrain to be conquered.
It would be really horrible when Max would be faster than Daniel from day 1.

 

[Erwin Greven]

F1 is a team sport, end of. You can't win the driver's championship without a good car for the same reason you can't win the constructor's without 2 decent drivers. It may be the old 80-20, but it's absolutely a team sport.

In F1 i think it would be more 40/60%. That is why many times you see at the starting grids this:

1. Team A car 1
   
2. Team A car 2
3. Team B car 1
4. Team B car 2
5. Team C car 1
   
6. Team C car 2
7. Team D car 1
8. Team E car 1
9. Team D car 2
   
10. Team E car 2..

and so on...

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

He is going on till the other quits, which means the other guy loses.

Absolutely correct

F1 is a team sport, end of. You can't win the driver's championship without a good car for the same reason you can't win the constructor's without 2 decent drivers. It may be the old 80-20, but it's absolutely a team sport.

You also can't win the drivers championship when your team screws up strategy

 

[paracletus]

strong performance by NR today. On current form, probably is the favourite for the DC now this year.
Good lap by DR too, also well done to MV.

 

[RoMaN14]

You also can't win the drivers championship when your team screws up strategy

So... you changed your mind? You were saying it's a bit of an individual sport rather than a team sport. But of course as you say you cannot win without a good team, which is nice. If the FIA didn't think that was in the spirit of the rules, they would have noticed by now and introduced equal cars (which would be dumb).

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

So... you changed your mind? You were saying it's a bit of an individual sport rather than a team sport. But of course as you say you cannot win without a good team, which is nice. If the FIA didn't think that was in the spirit of the rules, they would have noticed by now and introduced equal cars (which would be dumb).

I think the team play an important part, but at the end of the day, the drivers are out there racing for themselves

 

[Boby Kim]

Sollution for Max

 

[the_sigman]

Sollution for Max
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With the roll this car has, it probably suits Vettel more.

 

[Erwin Greven]

If the Red Bull would have the variomatic gearbox, the car could close the gap to Mercedes. It has power at all ranges. Sadly they are outlawed.

 

[Frank]

So, let's talk about max

 

[Erwin Greven]

Yes, lets hear how people think about him....

 

[kedy89]

So, let's talk about max

I'm still not fine with how he sometimes behaves in wheel to wheel duels (not referring to this GP), but damn that was some top class wet weather driving skill he displayed today.

 

[Stefan Woudenberg]

Oh no what flaming will follow now. He is the racer of the day.

Come on with all the garbage . ....

 

[BoogerMac]

What Max did at Interlagos today was just plain ridiculous. I was in awe the the entire final half of the race. The question is, would he have made ground and potentially caught Hamilton?

 

[Lorenzo Bonder]

I have to admit, I see a knack of Senna in him on the wets.

#justsaying

 

[GAIAjohan]

Nope. Hamilton is a world class wet driver as well, and he has the better car.
In the same car Verstappen is better I think.

Today Hamilton just secured a 10s gap to Rosberg within 3 Laps, and after that he was cruising

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

Max put in a world class performance today, and good on him!

Still hate the guy, but I can't deny that was bloody excellent driving.