Team ORSM

[Bram Hengeveld]

RaceDepartment welcomes Team ORSM. Here you will find the new home of the team behind V8Factor, Bathurst and other productions!

Have fun!

 

[ChaosF1]

i havent got a drop box set up so im using a friends in the process of up loading. i know there are some errors in the liveries such as the tasman car but mostly they are pretty good. Gav, Dpainter and myself worked on these starting to wonder if they see the light

 

[mceci1]

is anyone going to do this years skins for the v8s in the team ORSM model

 

[ChaosF1]

hope this works


also due its size it is eating alot of my friends dropbox so it may have to delete it soon

sorry about the size

 

[ea_silver_ghia]

Thanks ChaosF1. If you want, I can mirror the file on my MediaFire account, to give more people the chance to download it.

 

[Emyr27]

A long time since any skin request has been made ! Would it be possible to make Marcos Ambrose's Falcon at Sydney 2014 and the Albert Park 2015 one ? These would be great additions

 

[ChaosF1]

cheers mate that would be great if you can

 

[ea_silver_ghia]

No worries. Here's the link
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k0u666wqajsclz3/2004_season.rar

Thanks to ChaosF1, Gavin and Dpainter for the great job of these.

 

[mceci1]

is this whole 2015 series of the v8s being done

 

[ChaosF1]

Had to removed the drop box

 

[David O'Reilly]

Does ORSM even exist anymore?

This is a question at front of mind for me.
The original post here respectfully requests that they give their view on the subject of a conversion to RF2 of their great work.
Many tracks used in RF2 are actually conversions from RF1.
Many are group efforts. A good example is the Nordschliefe 24 hours. One group started it and got it to a reasonable standard, another finished it off and added it to (with permission) yet another existing track- the GP circuit.
This collaboration is a great example of how good it can end up.

Its 6 months since I posted the question and no reply. from ORSM.
I have also written to Krunch by PM to have a chat about what we can do to get an authorised conversion done. Also no reply.

So rather than let this great work stay unavailable (officially that is, BTW I see it on the server matchmaker so some are using it, just not the conscientious ones) in RF2. I think it might be good to pose the question; Does ORSM effectively exist any more?
Do they have a problem with the track being driven in RF2?

Am I unreasonable in thinking that if there is no response from a ORSM team member in a month or so that they either do not mind or that they no longer exist as an entity and therefore it's ok anyway?

Not sure what to do really.
Please ORSM, let us know what would make you happy to get this great work into RF2.

 

[mceci1]

I am pretty sure they don't exist anymore, people who have recently joined rfactor have no idea who team ORSM is

 

[Doug62]

I'd have to agree that's it's been a while and Still-Bacon has posted here during this time but for what ever reason hasn't answered this thread. Or has at one point but that post has been removed??
I stand by what I said and as a former ORSM member I would think they wouldn't want another group converting it to rF2.
To be honest I would have thought Krunch would have done the track himself already. Maybe he has and isn't convinced rF2 is working at it's full capacity ATM so is holding back. If this is the case then he should let you know either here or just by PM.

What to do? Unknown. I guess if it's a very good conversion, updated textures. Road texture and so on. Added poly to road surface.
I wouldn't do it but as you say, that hasn't stopped others from doing a crap job of it.

 

[mceci1]

Is anyone going to make the Dunlop series 2015, if so I would like to know as I like using them for something different outside the main game v8 series

 

[Toads]

Admittedly, rF2 doesn't appear to have the anywhere the numbers of dedicated simmers to what rF1 did have in it's day. So I wouldn't be too surprised if that has something to do with it, and it turn, the lack of motivation to see a scratch built Bathurst for rF2 come to fruition.

If that's the case, hopefully either ORSM or the Community (with ORSM's permission) can give the original one a quick polish and get it out there for a release for rest of us to enjoy. No doubt a scratch built Bathurst would be a mammoth task for anyone. Let alone for Modders that probably have busy family lives.

Anyway, here's hoping someone from ORSM can chime in and give us an update to where they think they might be at with it, or where they'd like to take it in future.

 

[dbens1]

Part of the issue is that there seems to be more inclination to convert Rf1 content to RF2 than to build new content from scratch (to implement the new features and technology)

 

[Toads]

Yup, the odds of seeing a scratch built Bathurst for rF2 seems hell greater than the rF1 converted one making it into the game (at this stage). To me (and probably most), something is better than nothing. And lets be honest, no other version of Bathurst comes close to being accurate like ORSM's one.

 

[David O'Reilly]

Open letter to ORSM.
So guys its now over 6 months and no reply, positive, negative or otherwise.

What I now think is reasonable, is to say that if you have any objection to your great work being enjoyed in RF2 please tell us.
If we dont hear any objection we will assume that either ORSM is ok with it, or that the creators of this track are busy and don't mind or that they dont at this stage exist as an entity and as such there is no rights to protect.

I dont want to seem rude at all or disrespectful, but after this period of time if there was any problems we would have heard.

Do not hesistate to send me a PM if there is stuff you would rather be said in private.

David

 

[krunch]

Yes we still exist . We just haven't committed to any new modding projects at this time. Whether or not we are still active on this forum has no bearing on our intellectual property and no one has the right to rip our stuff and release it to another game - ever. If anyone needs to contact us our direct information is in our readme files in all our downloads so there is no excuse for not contacting us. Leaving posts or PM's here is no guarantee of getting a message through.

Personally I'm disappointed with rF2 and I've felt very little motivation to mod for it. That may change but no guarantees. Assetto Corsa is great but with no encryption it's a tough call.

I appreciate people's enthusiasm for our work and I understand the frustration at not having it in more modern sims - in fact that is what motivated us to start modding the V8's and Bathurst in the first place. The reality is that the time and effort involved is massive. It takes energy and takes you away from other things like family for large chunks of time. You make sacrifices in your life. Then you have to watch as unscrupulous commercial simulator operators simply take your work, pretend it's their own and make money from it (fortunately there are a few decent operators out there who do seek permission). When someone rips it to another game it's the last straw.

As for legal questions about the V8's and Bathurst - as non-commercial hobby projects my view is that there is no issue of legality over any of it. Many people from V8Supercars have viewed and actively driven our V8's and Bathurst and had no issues at all.

Don't forget after all our efforts as a modding team (more than 10 years) we've never asked the community for a single cent in return. We shared it all with the sim racing community to play and enjoy and we've never even put up a donate button .

 

[David O'Reilly]

Thank you for the courtesy of a reply.
I understand your points. I'm sorry that you dont like RF2, thats your call and with your experience you have the right to your view. I dont personally agree with your view and love RF2 but thats an entirely subjective call.
If you do at some point soften your position and allow someone to convert your track or allow use of an existing conversion please let us know.

In my opinion along with The Nordschliefe its the best track available.
There are plans to run a 24 hours on the Nordschliefe later in the year. One day I hope we can run an endurance series that includes the 1000km of Bathurst, the 12 Hours of Bathurst, 24 hours of Le Mans and 24 hours of the Nordschliefe. That would be epic.

Peace Out

 

[jimortality]

Why does it have to be the ORSM version? Can someone not just do their own? A lot of sims have Bathurst. Anyway what about setting up a donation fund to entice ORSM to do something If it has to be their version.