Thoughts on VR?

ricerracer · Aug 28, 2017

Just wanted to know what people think of VR.

Worth it?

Great experience?

Meh?

Wait a few years?

Any issues?

Hows the resolution?

Cote Dazur · Sep 26, 2017

racingenthusiast said:
We talking Minecraft graphics? Or just not 1080?

Not playing Minecraft, so I don't know. Graphic is not that important in VR, you will see.

Andy_J · Sep 26, 2017

I'm looking forward to getting an Occulus Rift CV4 in 2019. The tech should be even better by then.

Until then I'm happy to wait and carry on playing my sims the old fashioned way. I use my PC for so much more than race siming anyway.

https://www.vrcircle.com/oculus-5-year-plan-theory/

ricerracer · Sep 26, 2017

Cote Dazur said:
Not playing Minecraft, so I don't know. Graphic is not that important in VR, you will see.

It was a joke

ricerracer · Sep 26, 2017

Andy Jackson said:
I'm looking forward to getting an Occulus Rift CV4 in 2019. The tech should be even better by then.

Until then I'm happy to wait and carry on playing my sims the old fashioned way. I use my PC for so much more than race siming anyway.

https://www.vrcircle.com/oculus-5-year-plan-theory/

There 5 year plan has nothing in its details that talk about improving graphics

Cote Dazur · Sep 26, 2017

Andy Jackson said:
I'm looking forward to getting an Occulus Rift CV4 in 2019. The tech should be even better by then.

Until then I'm happy to wait and carry on playing my sims the old fashioned way. I use my PC for so much more than race siming anyway.

https://www.vrcircle.com/oculus-5-year-plan-theory/

I bought my VR last year and my only regret is not to have done it earlier, time waits for no one.

Andy_J · Sep 26, 2017

Cote Dazur said:
time waits for no one.

Someone once told me that time was a predator that stalked us all our lives. ....

Andy_J · Sep 26, 2017

racingenthusiast said:
There 5 year plan has nothing in its details that talk about improving graphics

And?

I didn't say I was holding out for improved graphics, just tech and price. No rush.

João Rodrigo Dias · Sep 30, 2017

Hey this is a very good topic.

i am also considering getting a VR... but the costs are almost prohibitive in my country, it is going to be a big effort. So im still considering it, and have some concerns..

my biggest worry is about the minimum hardware to play in decent fps and visuals in assetto corsa, since i am not willing to buy another computer and there is no chance of upgrade because it is a gaming laptop, a i7 3630qm @2,4 - 3,4ghz, a gtx 660m 2gb and 8gb ddr3.

First thing is it even enough for VR in assetto?
If so,
I currently use a 1080p 32" screen in full hd resolution, 2x aa and anisotropic, hight details and low shadows, and low graphical settings in general but post processes turned on in lowest config (so i can at least see flames and brake lights),
I run almost all the time in 60 fps online, dropping below in race starts or when there are many cars in screen.

The lower difference i would set up the graphics should be a concern?
Thanks.

welshy46 · Sep 30, 2017

João Rodrigo Dias said:
Hey this is a very good topic.

i am also considering getting a VR... but the costs are almost prohibitive in my country, it is going to be a big effort. So im still considering it, and have some concerns..

my biggest worry is about the minimum hardware to play in decent fps and visuals in assetto corsa, since i am not willing to buy another computer and there is no chance of upgrade because it is a gaming laptop, a i7 3630qm @2,4 - 3,4ghz, a gtx 660m 2gb and 8gb ddr3.

First thing is it even enough for VR in assetto?
If so,
I currently use a 1080p 32" screen in full hd resolution, 2x aa and anisotropic, hight details and low shadows, and low graphical settings in general but post processes turned on in lowest config (so i can at least see flames and brake lights),
I run almost all the time in 60 fps online, dropping below in race starts or when there are many cars in screen.

The lower difference i would set up the graphics should be a concern?
Thanks.

I wouldn't worry about the price of a VR headset, unfortunately your laptop graphics aren't up to the spec required. The minimum graphics card spec is a GTX1050 or AMD 470. Although I wouldn't recommend anything less than a GTX1070 unless you want to see your last meal when the lights go green on a 24 car grid. frame drop on a 2D display is a pain, but in VR it can get pretty bad pretty fast. Even with a GTX1070 the graphics settings are so relatively low that you can't read the dials on the dashboard without staring directly at them. I ended up getting a 1080Ti to cure this, as in the long run it would be cheaper than anti nausea medication. VR is still new tech and comes at a price. Give it a few years and it will improve and hopefully get cheaper.

Andy_J · Oct 1, 2017

welshy46 said:
VR is still new tech and comes at a price. Give it a few years and it will improve and hopefully get cheaper.

Best advice.

Thats what I'm doing. I'm waiting till 2019. New PC, no monitor and CV3 or better.

ricerracer · Oct 1, 2017

Well I brought it guys, and I did not enjoy it one bit, the pixels are far too much, your head gets hot real fast and even if you use a fan the lenses fog up, which ends up destroying the 'immersion', I am returning it for a refund and spending the money on 2 extra monitors for a triple screen setup, and I will still have money left over lol, triple screens will be fine enough for the next 4 or 5 years until VR is up to standards.

Robert Bachmayer · Oct 2, 2017

I use Nvidia 3d vision 2.
Went from 1 screen 2d to 1 screen 3d, then triples 2d, back to 1 screen 3d, then to OR CV1, then back to 1 screen 3d.
Found the res too crap in Vr even with super sampling etc. Love the clarity of 3d vision in comparison. 2d screen or screens are now history, just has no depth.

Jeremy Ford · Oct 2, 2017

I run both a 35" ultra wide and Vive. I flip between both depending on mood. With the monitor the visuals are sharper and I can have the settings on Ultra. With VR, sim racing is more realistic, the outside world is gone taking the sim one step beyond being a game. Prolonged VR can get tiring on the eyes, but the resolution isn't a deal breaker for me, the presence of being in the car makes up for this. I also have a seat mover, transducer and Bodnar wheel setup. When combined with VR and all the senses bombarded it enhances the whole illusion.

I play many other non-racing VR titles, the Vive has been a great investment beyond sim racing.

Full_Ninja · Oct 3, 2017

Jeremy Ford said:
I run both a 35" ultra wide and Vive. I flip between both depending on mood. With the monitor the visuals are sharper and I can have the settings on Ultra. With VR, sim racing is more realistic, the outside world is gone taking the sim one step beyond being a game. Prolonged VR can get tiring on the eyes, but the resolution isn't a deal breaker for me, the presence of being in the car makes up for this. I also have a seat mover, transducer and Bodnar wheel setup. When combined with VR and all the senses bombarded it enhances the whole illusion.

I play many other non-racing VR titles, the Vive has been a great investment beyond sim racing.

Really you find vr more tiring for your eyes. I found it to be the exact opposite. Most studies have shown looking at a monitor is hard on the eyes because you are focusing on the same depth spot for prolonged amounts of time and our eyes did not evolve to do that very well.

Jeremy Ford · Oct 3, 2017

Full_Ninja said:
Really you find vr more tiring for your eyes. I found it to be the exact opposite. Most studies have shown looking at a monitor is hard on the eyes because you are focusing on the same depth spot for prolonged amounts of time and our eyes did not evolve to do that very well.

I use monitors all day long and in comparison, yes the VR screen is more tiring on the eyes. A friend of mine also notices this. It doesn't surprise me, I'd expect it would be the case.

BBKing212 · Oct 3, 2017

Full_Ninja said:
Really you find vr more tiring for your eyes. I found it to be the exact opposite. Most studies have shown looking at a monitor is hard on the eyes because you are focusing on the same depth spot for prolonged amounts of time and our eyes did not evolve to do that very well.

What is a difference looking on monitor, tripple monitor or small "monitor" inside VR helmet?
From layman point of view I would say there is no difference. Only difference is how close/far are the monitors on which our eyes are focusing.

Full_Ninja · Oct 3, 2017

BBKing212 said:
What is a difference looking on monitor, tripple monitor or small "monitor" inside VR helmet?
From layman point of view I would say there is no difference. Only difference is how close/far are the monitors on which our eyes are focusing.

VR uses optics so the focal point is beyond the screen and because it is 3d and to scale your eyes can focus at different depths

demetri · Oct 4, 2017

I don't your the eyes really focus at different depths in VR. In real life they do because the distances to the objects are different and eye optics have limited DOF, but in VR the objects to focus on are actually two fixed flat screens which just trick your mind into believing that you're seeing a real 3D stuff.