RDHGP S7 - Round 4 - 100km - Singapore - Thu 9 Jun 2011

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Stuart Thomson

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RaceDepartment Historic Grand Prix Season 7 – Round 4

Welcome to back to Round 4 of RDHGP S7.

Round 3 at Rattlesnake Park was thankfully Technical Incident free, being run via the SimBin Lobby, which gave (for me at least) a rock solid feeling of stability during the racing, and a better replay file. Also it was Racing Incident free, which is always good to see.

A quiet time for me post-race is always a good thing, and generally those are the best races.

We now encounter what I think is the biggest contrast between consecutive circuits on this season's schedule, from one of the fastest and most open tracks to one of the most complex and closed in.

Round 4 takes us over 8,900 miles back to Asia, specifically to the Marina Bay Street Circuit, home of the Singapore Grand Prix.
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Circuit Notes

The Marina Bay Street Circuit was first used in 2008, and became the first night race in F1’s history. Previous to that, Singapore had hosted Grand Prix races (albeit non-Championship Formula Libre races) from 1961 called the Orient Year Grand Prix for one year, then being called the Malaysian Grand Prix from 1962 until 1965 when Singapore gained independence. It was called the Singapore Grand Prix until from 1965 until it’s cancellation in 1974. These previous races were held at the superbly named Thomson Road Circuit.

That first modern race in 2008 has since become remembered more for the Renault “Crash” controversy involving Piquet Jr., Briatore and Alonso.

I’m expecting that we will avoid such controversy and hoping even more so that there are no such destructive accidents, because the walls are very, very close at Singapore, especially when compared to the wide open spaces at RattleSnake.

Singapore is a long is track, and has lots of turns, so the turn-by-turn will be a bit more loquacious than normal, but please take the time to read and bear with it until the end. It also is one of the flattest tracks we’ve driven, which is not my normal modus operandi, but we all need a change every so often.

A lap of Singapore starts on a decent length S/F straight, and we are immediately into a 4 corner complex, comprising T1L, T2R, T3L and T4L – Republic Boulevard. T1L is not a particularly tight corner, but it needs to be taken slower than the actual corner would demand in deal circumstances because of the almost immediate switchback of T2R, itself requiring caution as it leads straight onto T3L, a tight almost-hairpin. Exiting T3L under hard acceleration, you come across T4L – Republic Boulevard. This is easy to negotiate at full acceleration, but still needs some respect because drifting too far right on the exit will compromise your braking zone and entry to the next section.

T5R is a medium speed turn, walls very tight to the inside apex, so drivers attacking the tight line should beware, but this turn needs to be attacked as if opens onto the fastest part of the track, the decent length straight, interrupted by the high speed curve of T6R – Raffles Boulevard – taken at full chat, ready for the hard braking zone leading into T7L – Nicoll Highway.

T7L is the first in a series of 3 90 degree corners, linked by short straight sections. You get a blast of acceleration followed by heavy braking, and turn in to T8R – Stamford Road, followed by a blast of acceleration followed by some heavy braking and the turn in to T9L – St. Andrews Road. Speed carried through this section is vital, but as always with the multi corner sections, the last corner leading onto the straight will be the most important.

A decent length straight follows, before hard braking and the slow speed entry to T10aL, T10bR & T10cL. 3 very close turns present an effective 90 degree corner, but the second apex pinching into the track means that the normal tight-wide-tight line is compromised.

Getting on the power, you leave the T10 complex and throw your nose at the inner apexes of the T11R & T12L Esses, some cars going through flat, some feathering, some fully lifting, getting back on the power across Anderson Bridge, and some heavy braking for the tightest corner, T13R – Esplanade Drive. No cars will be able to take chances round this turn – some may drop right down to 1st - so traction and torque from low speeds will be kings out of here, opening out onto Esplanade Drive.

The next section can be confusing at first – some corner not marked very well, some with almost invisible entries until you are right on top of them. At the end of Esplanade, there is some more hard braking for the slightly tighter than 90 degree T14R, opening onto Raffles Avenue, and T15L, again very shallow, but with a high tariff of difficulty due to the tighter T16R following on immediately after, and the even tighter again T17L straight after that.

Out of T17L, it’s flat out on the following short straight, and hard on the anchors into a complex of 4 consecutive, and closely packed, 90 degree corners. T18L is followed by T19R, both corners guarded by walls on the inner apexes, a dab of throttle under the overpass, and then off again for the slightly shallower T20R. This needs to be negotiated in such a way that you can attack T21L onto the short-ish straight that follows.

The last 2 corners are medium speed Left-handers - T22L & T23L – which can, dependent on your line though T22L be taken as a shallow double apex, allowing you to blast onto the S/F straight at almost full throttle, before crossing the S/F line and starting another lap of Singapore.

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The Race Director has some notes for drivers. Please see the track map above for location of Race Direction note:-

All Corners Without Exception – The kerbs are not deemed as track, therefore 2 wheels must be within the white lines, on the tarmac, At All Times. Again, there are NO exceptions to this rule at any point on the circuit. Any exception to this rule is deemed illegal, any advantage gained by this method must be ceded immediately. Report people deliberately and excessively cutting.

Racing Room must be given to all drivers – and this works both ways. Divebombing into and across a corner denies people the chance to make the corner correctly just as much as someone obliviously (or deliberately) cutting the nose off of another driver who has achieved partial overlap fairly.

Regain the track safely - If you leave the track, you must rejoin the track safely. If that means losing another couple of places – so be it.

Street Circuit Additional – Lots of these corners are guarded closely by hard, and potentially damaging/race-ending, walls. Unlike other circuits, if you have an accident here, you are likely to still be on track after your accident, on the racing surface. Restarting/rejoining safely is likely to be problematical, so in those circumstances Safety is your Primary Concern.
People following cars need to be aware of this situation as well, and with the inner walls making a lot of the turns blind on entry, I recommend (if you don’t use them currently) turning on Driver Labels, to give you as much warning as possible of someone stopped just around the bend.

T3L – cars will be slithering about on the edges of adhesion from T1L & T2R and trying to lose even more speed before turn in – some cars have a lot more traction, some have better brakes, some have both. Awareness of what is around you is vital here.

T10L – The Treble apex will suit the lighter & grippier cars, so be aware of people closing up racing gaps through here.

T13L – This is the tightest turn on the track, and so braking distances and lines will be very different here. Don’t just assume that you can turn in with impunity as someone might have made a run up the inside. But by the same token, don’t divebomb the corner by going in way too hot and just driving across the apex.

T14R – not a well signposted corner, and it has a deceptive turn in point, because of the closed off road ahead of you - and the fact that you can see the signpost for the other side of the track, which is pointing the wrong way for T14. If you miss the turn, don’t just reverse back onto the track – check and do it safely.

T22L – People will want to attack this apex, but be careful being too greedy, the kerbs can unsettle your car and stick you into the end of the pit wall rather than setting you up for T23L. I’m no expert, but I’d imagine that the 0.1sec you may lose by being safe around here is less than what you will lose if you inpale yourself on the Armco.

All points on the track – General Items
No lights are to be flashed at any stage, under any circumstances, during the race.
No Chat during the Quali or Race except by Race Control for information.
Car damage must be assessed realistically to know if it is possible to make the pits or not.

Incidents, Investigations and Penalties

There were no reported incidents arising from Round3.

4 drivers incurred “No-Show” infractions:
· Gabor Ludvig
· Gregory Degreef
· Keith Peppiatt
· Patrice De Rijck

Keith will carry this no-show infraction for one race. If he allocates correctly for that race, the infraction will be lifted.

Patrice has resigned from the League – the reason that caused the no-show precipitated the resignation, not the no-show itself.

2 of these drivers are now removed from the League for 2 consecutive No-Show:
· Gabor Ludvig
· Gregory Degreef

Please remember, the League staff will only review incidents if they are reported to them.

No report = no review.

Please try and remember the incident reporting guidelines: review, cool off, review again. Only after following the above process, and if you are convinced you still need to report it, should you let the League staff know. Please give as much information as possible during the report (time of incident, drivers involved etc.)

Accident reports made within 24 hours of race completion will be ignored.

Any accusations or complaints aired in the Chat during or after a race will mean a penalty levied on the person complaining or making the accusations, even if a subsequent official complaint gets found in their favour. I simply will NOT tolerate any post race finger pointing.

Liveries
You have chosen your car and livery already, and you must only drive your chosen car at any time during an RDHGP event. Every driver has a unique livery in this season of RDHGP.

Scoring System
Points are scored down to P20 (75% distance completion required) so people can fight for some points no matter where they are on the track, and hopefully have a season long battle with people around them in the League.
The Distribution is as follows for 100km events :
P1 - 25 pts
P2 - 22
P3 - 20
P4 - 18
P5 - 16
P6 - 15
P7 - 14
P8 - 13
P9 - 12
P10 - 11
P11 - 10
P12 - 9
P13 - 8
P14 - 7
P15 - 6
P16 - 5
P17 - 4
P18 - 3
P19 - 2
P20 - 1

1 point for fastest race lap
1 point for qualifying on Pole
 
Hi guys,
for the first time I now have to back out on this one :(
I'm feeling awfully sick and not able to contribute as a concentrated driver.

You all have fun and enjoy this (imo) interesting track!


Ulli
 
Intro + Info thread said:
Attendance Reporting
ALL signed-up drivers must allocate for ALL races - this is not optional. Sending a PM saying "I won't make it" takes just as long as changing your allocation. A PM or post will NOT be considered as an allocation change.

Races are run at 20.00 on a Thursday evening - UK time. If a driver is allocated as "will participate", or has not allocated by 18.00GMT on a race day, "will participate" is judged to be their status for that race. A no-show is one infraction.

You are allowed 1 infraction, and then the next infraction will result in expulsion from League without any recourse for appeal. 2 consecutive No-Shows will result in removal from the League.

Anyone with a "will participate" allocation who doesn't show, but is found to be participating in another event will be immediately expelled from the League without any recourse for appeal.

Expulsion from the League will result in possible exclusions from future GTL Club & League events.

As per the rules.
 
General reminder, maybe? Quit a few drivers absent today.

And man, what a race. First of all I was finally able to see how the other cars look like during the race, not just their silhouettes on the horizon :).

I liked the track, at one point worked my way up to 10th, but when I was battling with Erling I tried too hard to retake the position, got too eager on the throttle and lost another 3 instead. Luckily, despite another position lost to Nigel after getting out of shape (again), I was still able to retain 14th, with another classic case of defending like mad scenario (or if you want "All your apex are belong to us!") when Bob sat on my bumper and technically was a good deal faster than me. But passing the 131 on such a tight and technical track wasn't going to be easy :].

It was very satisfying to see car after car trying to line up and outbrake me, failing each and every time :D. The Abarth might be slow, but damn can it stop well (the slow speed helps too, less heat to dissipate ;)). Overall it was fun; I enjoyed having two "mad Jaggers" and to fast Escorts on my back for half of the race as well as having the ability to be able to fight with other drivers. And not being simply obliterated on every straight :). It's just a pity that on the other tracks there is no real chance of being competitive, even with the second-slowest Fords.
 
First time i've actually started and finshed an RDHGP race, so i was very glad to be problem-free tonight.

Rather fluked a pole position with a lap that didn't feel as fast as the time suggested, but was beaten away from the line by Ryan, with Ivo in close attendance. We ran close for a couple of laps before i bodged my braking for that annoying 1st/2nd gear right-hander that's always closer than you think. Reversed out from the wall and set after Ivo, made another error on the following lap, but me and Ivo then had a great battle for over half the race as we traded tenths from lap to lap. Eventually i got a good run on him after an oversteery moment, and i was now looking ahead to Ryan. (XD had him as a DNF so i had no idea of the gap) I was catching him a little every lap, and he seemed to be losing more time through oversteer than i was. 2 laps from the end i was right on his tail and we were side-by-side through the tight complex after the 2nd straightaway. However, going through the 3rd gear left-hander that followed, Ryan put too much power down and spun directly in front of me. While trying to avoid him, i tapped his rear corner- but i really couldn't avoid the contact. It was disappointing as it was shaping up to be a great battle on shredded tyres in these big beasts, so i'm sorry to Ryan for not waiting, but it wasn't a deliberate move and there wasn't a lot i could do in that situation. Congrats to Ivo & Ryan for the podiums, and to the gentlemanly driving of Norman, Senad & Hans.

Thanks Thommo & RD, nice to finally finish a race!
 
@Wayne - I've posted it so you and Amir aren't surprised when you get a no-show infraction.

It's the underlined part that's applicable in this case.
i just can't understand the logic behind the decision to give me a no show infraction.i did practice for the race and i did intend to take part in the race. thing is that yesterday i had an internet conection problem and my internet speed was 1 mgb insteat of 10. this resaulted in very bad lag and losing conection to the sever for many times.
i knew that if i will start the race there is a good chanse i will get disconnected. more importent is the fact that i could hit or harm other players during the race who would follow me and suffer from my lag.( like happend with tom in the previous league). so the logical decision for me was to withdraw from the race even though i spent my time practicing for it and even got home early from work in order to practice.
yes i did alocate as in for the race but taking all things into account i think i made the right choise.
sometimes rules can be overviewd by the facts...
 
Don't get riled by it, I'm sure Stuart won't just look to punish you when he can, and although you will get the infraction it will go both away right away and won't harm you in any significant matter. Bending the rules like that opens the path for claims without justification and it's not worth it. A part of being professional in managing a league is sticking to your rules that work well :).
 
I don't mind it to much as I know I will be there next race so no big deal. Its not like I have any thing to lose from not racing its not like the league is there for me to win even if I had got a faster car Ryan and Ivo Have jet packs and glue on there cars :)

At time's I feel some rules should be open a bit more but its the same for us all so you just move to the next race
 
First time i've actually started and finshed an RDHGP race, so i was very glad to be problem-free tonight.

Rather fluked a pole position with a lap that didn't feel as fast as the time suggested, but was beaten away from the line by Ryan, with Ivo in close attendance. We ran close for a couple of laps before i bodged my braking for that annoying 1st/2nd gear right-hander that's always closer than you think. Reversed out from the wall and set after Ivo, made another error on the following lap, but me and Ivo then had a great battle for over half the race as we traded tenths from lap to lap. Eventually i got a good run on him after an oversteery moment, and i was now looking ahead to Ryan. (XD had him as a DNF so i had no idea of the gap) I was catching him a little every lap, and he seemed to be losing more time through oversteer than i was. 2 laps from the end i was right on his tail and we were side-by-side through the tight complex after the 2nd straightaway. However, going through the 3rd gear left-hander that followed, Ryan put too much power down and spun directly in front of me. While trying to avoid him, i tapped his rear corner- but i really couldn't avoid the contact. It was disappointing as it was shaping up to be a great battle on shredded tyres in these big beasts, so i'm sorry to Ryan for not waiting, but it wasn't a deliberate move and there wasn't a lot i could do in that situation. Congrats to Ivo & Ryan for the podiums, and to the gentlemanly driving of Norman, Senad & Hans.

Thanks Thommo & RD, nice to finally finish a race!

We even did our fastest laptime in the same lap i believe. You a 2:33.826 and i a 2:33.882.


Overall a oke event on a track i never felt fully comfortable.

Q: 32.9 was close to the max i could do i think. 3rd on the grid

Race: For a moment i thought i jumped the start. Released the clutch abit to soon. Lucky the "Go" was there also.
Resulted not in a false start but in a great start. Almost managed to sneak between Ross and Ryan. But they went side to side in T1, so backed out. First laps i just followed Ryan and Ross. Where behind me people had big battles so we could drive away abit.
After some laps Ryan went abit to deep in the difficult right hander. But managed to stay out of the wall where Ross didnt. Managed to sneak through to P2. After that alot of laps where Ryan slighty pulled away and where Ross was the whole time 2 sec behind me. Mid way in the race i started to have some problems with the change of tyres and got a couple of oversteery moments, and Ross had a good run on me at the straight. He was clearly faster at that point and was catching up to Ryan and pulling away from me abit. In the last laps they had a sort of touch i read now, and managed to close a gap. Now Ross was in P1 and the last laps i was following Ryan. But didnt really had the pace anymore to do something for P2. So crossed the line at P3.

Another podium in the pocket.
Thanks Stu and roll on to Brazil. :)
 
i just can't understand the logic behind the decision to give me a no show infraction.i did practice for the race and i did intend to take part in the race. thing is that yesterday i had an internet conection problem and my internet speed was 1 mgb insteat of 10. this resaulted in very bad lag and losing conection to the sever for many times.
i knew that if i will start the race there is a good chanse i will get disconnected. more importent is the fact that i could hit or harm other players during the race who would follow me and suffer from my lag.( like happend with tom in the previous league). so the logical decision for me was to withdraw from the race even though i spent my time practicing for it and even got home early from work in order to practice.
yes i did alocate as in for the race but taking all things into account i think i made the right choise.
sometimes rules can be overviewd by the facts...


Amir

Next time you know what to do..
You stay in pit during Q and at start of race you ......


As for ours nice Ferrari 275 i managed to hold on to p10 during the race. My best resulat saw far.
I dont know why, because i felt the track was diffucult to drive on.
Never the less, i liked the end result

Regards

Erling Bøhmer
 
Hard race, not only because of the complexity of the circuit, but also because of the challenging thermal conditions. In my room was probably somewhere around 30 degrees Celsius. I was sweating. :tongue:

Qual: second time in a row in qualifying something happens to me. As in the Rattlesnake, I set the time, which could in my practices set with double fuel tank and elephant as a co-driver. If in Canada, I lost myself for about a second, then Sinapure was a disaster. I did with 85 litres on board - 2.34.0. I lost myself for more than two seconds! I had a bit of hot laps. Had to reinstall the graphics settings, and then got rid of traffic, but it does not forgive me. I guess it's some psychological problem. Too much fuss.:frown:
So, 7th place at start with time, with which I then went on worn tires in the race.

Race: Good start, 4th place.
1st lap T14R - Andy started too early to accelerate - spin - 8th place (Andy waited for me :wink:). Arghh, again, like in Bahrain! Thankfully, not the last position.

Can quickly pass Nils and Bob, I find myself behind Gary and Neil at the 6th pos. Gary has a little mistake in T14R, which is why I am a bit pressed him to the wall. Than, Gary slightly corrects my trajectory in T18L and Andy gets ahead of me - 7th pos.

A couple of parties in the bowling with Andy and Gary, Gary and Nils, a couple of hard blows against the wall and other cars. Again with Gary (yesterday, he was very determined to fight :tongue:) Phew... too many things for a half distance. :frown:

Virtually the entire race, I pursued Gary. He was faster on the third sector, but obviously he was uncomfortable in T14R. Watching how he passes the third sector, I realized that at the end of the race he will completely destroy his rear tires. And this problem had not only Gary, but also Andreas with Neil, who were ahead.

By the end of the race, I was able to catch up and pass Gary and Andy, but for Neil I did not have enough time and resources of my car (too much strikes and fighting, tires have already begun to surrender). As in Bahrain, I finished on the tail of the Neil. 5th place.
I have not felt confident yesterday, because the 5th place-not too bad.

Thanks to Stu/RD for this event! Thanks to all guys for race!
 
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