Adding to this, also missing the picture of the "3rd spring" and suspension.
Otherwise, great writeup. Ty.
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RaceRoom Racing Experience | Insight Into Physics Changes - Blog Post
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Otherwise, great writeup. Ty.
I guess you could say it is communicated. For example, in PC2, you can feel the unnatural overrotation of the car in slow, off-throttle corners, but the feeling isn't right. It's like it's communicating a magical, uninformative rotation rather than something helpful. People confused this for hidden arcade assists for a long time in PC2.
I imagine there must be some nuance to the feeling of this in a real car that carries enough information to handle it. Right now, in PC2 and AMS2, it's just a matter of eyeballing it and reacting rather than feeling it and counteracting.
You feel there is over rotation in AMS2? I find in that game you can absolute CANNON into the corners and by the time the car reaches the apex the physics self correct the car. You can get away with outrageous driving currently in that game and it just self corrects (for the record im completely non assists).
Yes, there are plenty of other "physics guys" out there doing great work. It's just the habit of internet communities to latch onto the more vocal ones, and treat them like Gods who know all and have the last word in any debate.
Physics discussion, continuous refinement, new tires, all great, but I really want to hammer that Scirocco up the esses at Watkins Glen very very soon.
Sector 3 really on a roll lately , great stuff.
Great news that this title is going to benefit from some serious under the hood improvements. The direction has been all positive lately.
Thank you @Paul Jeffrey for sharing this, and thank you to everyone else for the nice comments. Of course the proof is in the pudding. Not long to wait now 
I've added one more post to our forums detailing updates to our electric cars.
I've added one more post to our forums detailing updates to our electric cars.
Wonder if the physics update and the tiremodel 4.1 on the Formula Raceroom 90 improves its drivability. It feels somehow weird to me (compared to other 90s F1 cars in other sims. Sure, I never drove one…).
Will buy the Scirocco and Watkins for sure.
Will buy the Scirocco and Watkins for sure.
AMS2 delivers more grip in the first 5 to 10 minutes during the peak-performance of the tyres, but this 'self-correcting' transforms into certain spin soon, if you keep pushing like that. AMS2 and RR have IMO far more similarities than differences (unlike ACC
) with very similar grip after maybe 10 to 15 minutes in the race. RR seems more difficult first, but to manage this wider range of grip-dynamics in AMS2 is a challenge of it's own and might be more authentic in explaining the usual time-gap between qualifying and fastest race lap, which you don't see in iRacing or ACC either.Really interesting article and glad to see all of this in RR. Well done, there is a lot of passion in this work.
Only problem I had recently with the sim is how the f1 90s cars can spin in high speed corners after a few laps in an unpredictable way (like a sudden loss of downforce). The default setup maybe... hope they're going to feel better with this update.
Only problem I had recently with the sim is how the f1 90s cars can spin in high speed corners after a few laps in an unpredictable way (like a sudden loss of downforce). The default setup maybe... hope they're going to feel better with this update.