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Not getting better

Lewis Fergusson

1000RPM
Jun 21, 2008
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I've had my wheel since December now and been pretty much solidly playing since April and i'm not really getting any better at the game, mid-field in public servers and at the back in RD events.
Thing is as well, apart from the obvious mistakes I can't really tell what i'm doing wrong when nothing appears to be going wrong. If I post a lap around a few tracks would someone tell me if I am doing anything really badly?
 

Jarrod Crossley

3000RPM
Feb 18, 2008
3,505
4
Are you getting the best from your setups?
If your tyre temps are quite level try altering some of the down force or rear toe to squeeze a little extra speed. Note as soon as you start altering things like rear wing or rear toe you will have to start retuning your setups.
 

James Yates

2000RPM
Feb 19, 2008
2,341
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I've had my wheel since December now and been pretty much solidly playing since April and i'm not really getting any better at the game, mid-field in public servers and at the back in RD events.
Thing is as well, apart from the obvious mistakes I can't really tell what i'm doing wrong when nothing appears to be going wrong. If I post a lap around a few tracks would someone tell me if I am doing anything really badly?
Post a few video's, or, if you go on the RD Spa Track Day server then im sure whoever else is on can have a watch and give you some tips. If you say you will be on at a certain time, ill try and come on and have a watch :)
 
May 17, 2008
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Are you getting the best from your setups?
If your tyre temps are quite level try altering some of the down force or rear toe to squeeze a little extra speed. Note as soon as you start altering things like rear wing or rear toe you will have to start retuning your setups.
Im kinda in a similar situation. Im able to run pretty consistent laps, but not near as fast as the top players in the Swedish Sim Racing League, or on your public servers... Right now im driving the Anderstorp track to learn it, and have run about 50-80 laps in both TA and practice. In TA Im a lot quicker with Atti's setup then in Practice, even though i drive the same. 1.41 in Practice and 1,38 in TA on Anderstorp. :O And yes i know TA doesnt "stress" the tires etc, but how come i can drive fast without proper temp. in the tires?
I think my problem is i dont know what kind of drivingstyle i like, or is fast with. Iv been racing since December when i first got my G25.
Any input would be nice :)
Cheers!
 

Jarrod Crossley

3000RPM
Feb 18, 2008
3,505
4
There will always be a differance in times between Time Attack and actual racing/ Practice.

Time Attack is good for getting used to a track or finding those few seconds that can be found by attacking a corner differantly than you normaly would, and Not have to worry about things like tyre wear or fule loads.

But once you have honed your lines and think your at the stage where driving a track is like falling asleep then its time to look at your setups within a practice or a race situation.

This is were you'll find that tyre wear and fule load pay a big diffeance in times and squezzing back those extra seconds that you lost compared to TA is were it counts.
 

Bram Hengeveld

RaceDepartment Founder
Staff member
Premium
Dec 26, 2006
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I dont want to offend anybody here, but i have done thousands of laps last year and without practicing like a maniac i cannot reach group 1 from our leagues either. Some people just have more talent then others. With a lot of practice you can be fast for sure, but unless you have been eating kryptonite during your childhood we will not become aliens :D

Its a common misconception that setups make you quicker, which they don't. A good personal setup can give you that last half a second if you can really really drive consistent laps (which not many of us can) but it wont speed you up like some tend to believe. What it can do is that it give you the "right feeling" when driving your car, and that is what counts
 

Gareth Hickling

2000RPM
Feb 17, 2008
2,864
2
41
I was going to add, Ive been sim racing for a few years now, Whatever I try im just not one of the fast guys. Still its no matter to me, We have just as much fun at the back of the grid!
 
May 17, 2008
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There will always be a differance in times between Time Attack and actual racing/ Practice.

Time Attack is good for getting used to a track or finding those few seconds that can be found by attacking a corner differantly than you normaly would, and Not have to worry about things like tyre wear or fule loads.

But once you have honed your lines and think your at the stage where driving a track is like falling asleep then its time to look at your setups within a practice or a race situation.

This is were you'll find that tyre wear and fule load pay a big diffeance in times and squezzing back those extra seconds that you lost compared to TA is were it counts.

Maybe its different for everyone, but you tell me i should learn the track in TA, driving proper lines etc, and then go over to race/practice and make myself a setup? :) Maybe i should just tweak Atti's Seat setup a little more to the way i drive...

I was going to add, Ive been sim racing for a few years now, Whatever I try im just not one of the fast guys. Still its no matter to me, We have just as much fun at the back of the grid!
Well indeed you have fun no matter where you are at the grid, but finishing 3rd or better is a dream of mine :wink: You always wanna go faster :amen:

If you post a replay from a lap you want to be looked at i could help to have a look at it.
Me or Lewis? :)
 

Gareth Hickling

2000RPM
Feb 17, 2008
2,864
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Well indeed you have fun no matter where you are at the grid, but finishing 3rd or better is a dream of mine :wink: You always wanna go faster :amen:
Thats why we love sim racing! More speed! Faster, Faster!

Im glad I only do this in a sim, It would cost me thousands of pounds in repair bills in real life. :)
 
May 17, 2008
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Thats why we love sim racing! More speed! Faster, Faster!

Im glad I only do this in a sim, It would cost me thousands of pounds in repair bills in real life. :)
I think my parents are too after my father watched me crash on Monza one time :p He should only know how many more times iv had contact with other than the road :p

my offer was not person specific :)
Hehe, fast answers and great people. I love this forum :thumb:

Edit: Here you go guys :)
The Attachement is with the default setup, just some minor tweaking of the 6th gear. 1.40.xxx i think

FileShack
This one is with your setup Atti, 1.39.xxx
(file was to large to attach)
Cheers
 

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Simon Trendell

5000RPM
Feb 19, 2008
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Pick a track & car and set the fastest lap you can. Then forget about it do some club events & come back to it a month later. I've done this for the first few months (Jan ~ Mar) and I actually improved by a second. Granted that combo was the E90 & Porto which I LOVE! But now I've slowed as the extra bits are hard to get as I've hit where I can sort of lap.
Everyone has a talent wall, some are just a bit smaller than others.
 

Ole Jensen

25RPM
Feb 22, 2008
31
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Hi guys.
Besides from running thousands of laps on selected tracks to get better are there any short cuts to become faster - and I am not talking about cheating.
If you compare the makes can you point out one single car and honestly say that it has some kind of advantage over the others.?
Just a quick question from a backmarker who is short of talent and time.:D
For the record I have tried all the cars on a selected track in an offline race weekend. Could not really feel any difference so for the last couple of months I have been driving the Honda solely.
Cheers Eckblad
 
Dec 30, 2006
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I always load a ghost from a very fast player and try to catch him :)
It always cost me at least 30 laps to get close or stay a few meters behind him :)
But it can be fast enough for group 2.