Image Space Incorporated Exclusive Interview

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In the latest addition to our series of interviews with the big hitters from the world of sim racing, RaceDepartment recently sat down with developers of the world renowned rFactor and rFactor 2 racing simulators to discuss the future of the rFactor 2, new content and what highly sought after enhancements fans can expect in future.


Founded in 1992, Image Space Incorporated (ISI) is a well respected software developer specializing in the fields of computer game development, “man-in-the-loop” simulator architectures, computer image generation, and entertainment systems integration.

ISI has a well established, and highly skilled development team, with both artists and programmers dedicated to the design and development of cost-effective, high quality software and computer products.

With experience in the latest hardware and software systems, ISI offers rapid time-to-market and real-time performance for a variety of gaming and simulation applications. A creative flair, robust technology, and in-depth knowledge of the gaming industry gives ISI the technical and creative edge required in today’s highly competitive market.

As rFactor 2 continues to go from strength to strength in recent months RaceDepartment thought this to be the ideal time to sit down with the team and discus their premium simulator, rFactor 2.

RD: Hello, many thanks for the opportunity to have a chat with you today. It’s a great pleasure for me to talk today about one of my personal favourite race simulations on the market, rFactor 2. As I usually do I would like to open up this little Q&A by asking you to introduce yourself and tell us a little about what you do over at ISI?

TW: I’m Tim Wheatley and my primary role at ISI is the commercial licensing of our products. This is for companies who want to promote their brand at a trade show, or new companies setting up sim centers where they charge for access to their hardware.

RD: Thank you. So it’s now customary in these Q&A’s to start off with some light questions about those behind the scenes and get to know a bit about who is involved in creating the sims we love. First things first, what car do you drive on a day to day basis at home and why?

TW: Toyota RAV4, because it was cheap and fits my wife, kids and dogs. Maybe one day I’ll just answer “because I wanted it” – but not today!

RD: A controversial one here - who’s the quickest virtual driver at ISI?

TW: Right now I’d say Christopher Elliott, but we’re going to say that’s because he gets the most track time...

RD: Back to the world of pixels, what would you consider your favourite racing / road car is to drive outside of rFactor / rFactor 2?

TW: I don’t have a lot of time to run sims (even our own), but I like low downforce historics, so I’ve had rare fun with the 1960’s cars in other sims. There is a fair bit of nostalgia for me in firing up a Lotus 49 in iRacing, but I prefer period tracks when I can get them, and it’s nice to see some sims doing a great job with those.

RD: When not sampling the world of the virtual racing car do you play any other type of game? What’s on your computer at the moment that you tend to gravitate towards in any free time you might have ?

TW: I’ve always enjoyed space games alongside racing sims, I’m using Elite: Dangerous whenever I need to escape real life for a bit! I don’t have a lot of time to play anything else.

RD: ISI have a stellar reputation in the sim racing (and real world racing) industry with titles like rFactor, rFactor 2 and rFactor PRO in recent years but still run a relatively tight ship over in the good old US of A, how many people do you have working on rFactor 2 at ISI currently?

TW: Most projects work under external contractors hired to do specific content, but the core team of full-time software engineers (who aren’t building cars or tracks) is four. We have two full-time car guys, two full-time track guys, plus contractors working with them. We’re a pretty compact organization.

RD: Obviously you provide simulation software for a number of racing teams simulators in the real world, what sort of feedback do you receive from the professional drivers when they sample the consumer version of the game and how do they compare it to their real life race cars?

TW: Most of what they will try in the retail version has been built by a third party, often without access to the car or data. Good third-party content and first-party items get good feedback.

RD: Along a similar line, does real life driver feedback get incorporated into the sim, and if so how useful has that been in developing the physics and feel of the game?

TW: Driver feedback is really only used on a final pass for any content we produce in-house. Our physics engine allows us to input real values and get real results from that, so provided our data is good, the cars should always feel pretty accurate before anyone drives it.

RD: What do you consider to be your greatest / most proud achievement so far in the life rFactor 1 and rFactor 2 and why?

TW: We broke new ground on a lot of features that once implemented by other engines and studios will move sim racing forward as a whole; RealRoad rubber build-up being probably the most useful for the genre.

Plus, even though we are an extremely small team, we are proud to continue to support our products and the community around them for many years. Too many products seem to be abandoned if they do not achieve a huge critical following, and that’s not our philosophy.

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RD: The (fairly) recent inclusion of a triple screen tool in game has been a dramatic improvement to the immersion level for 3 screen users of the title, do you plan to create a more ‘user friendly’ version of this imbedded in the main game UI?

TW: If and/or when we have time. The implementation and function is obviously more important to us.

RD: Talking of the visual side of things, many people were disappointed to see the Consumer Unit Oculus Rift not supporting DX9 games (such as rF & rF2). Is this a concern to you as VR seems to possibly be the future for sim racing, and more to the point do you anticipate rF2 moving away from DX9 going forwards? Additionally I hear rumours of dropping Windows 8 support, does that mean DX 12?

TW: I think Microsoft have already dropped Windows 8 support (last month, I believe), as they’re trying to push everyone to Windows 10. The VR APIs have frankly been way too fluid for us to seriously look at, and I doubt we’ll look again at native support until after devices are in the hands of the public for a few months. Their changes in specification have obviously left things behind that we rely upon at this time.

RD: Sorry, I've got to push you on this one... could you share with us some indication of timeframe when users could realistically expect to see the move from DX9?

TW: Not able to give a timeline, or even a confirmation we’ll see that in rFactor 2 – and obviously this affects the VR answer previously. It also could be argued that modders now have a stable platform to create for, it might not be beneficial to mess with them.

RD: Still with Virtual Reality, now that users can fully view and engage with their surroundings using VR headsets, will more details and higher resolution gauges and cockpits for ISI content vehicles make an appearance in future builds do you think?

TW: We update older cars as best we can, but aren’t going to devote much time to extremely old content for minimal returns. Most newer cars shouldn’t need much of an update in this area.

RD: rFactor 2 is the platform of choice for many major leagues around the globe, specifically using the endurance features within the game and making the most of real weather / day to night transition functionality. With regards to how weather is implemented in game, does the team at ISI have plans to implement things such as rain drops on windshields (physics based rendering) / aquaplaning / puddle formation etc?

TW: We’re actually looking at this again now. We haven’t decided on what features will get dropped or pushed, and which should be implemented in short order.

RD: On a similar topic, in dry conditions can we expect to see some kind of dirt/marble pick up on tires?

TW: We’re unlikely to implement that in rFactor 2, you’ll just have to deal with the existing drop in grip on those surfaces.

RD: Keeping to the theme of endurance racing and features for a moment if I may, have the team considered the possibility to limit the set of tires available for a race weekend (endurance this is a big thing as well as F1 and many other series) and the possibility of saving part worn tyres in the garage for use in further sessions / later race stints?

TW: No, but I think we now output the tire data in the replay and plugins to allow leagues to easily track tire usage. While we can now store tire data (resume from replay does), we don’t foresee allowing them to be saved and reused within existing sessions.

RD: Again another endurance type question (although relevant, sadly, for Formula One too) – Hybrid/KERS/Brake Recovery simulation in game. Yes this is a murky and challenging area to simulate I would imagine but could add a lot to the immersion aspect of several major racing series. Does ISI plan to have this in game in future builds and if so how far along the path of develop are you at present?

TW: We’re in talks for a 2016 GP car as I speak, so we need to look at this at some point, probably when we build an updated FISI and/or GP car.

RD: Staying with the theme of cars and car features, could we maybe expect to see the ability to adjust onboard TC steps as onboard engine mapping or onboard differential Settings in future builds? The current TC settings are more a driver aid than in car setting and can sometimes feel a bit obtrusive when driving at the limit.

TW: Probably not. It’ll most likely continue to work as it does now.

RD: Moving away from this topic now for a little while and getting on to in game content for a bit, ISI have released a number of US centric Oval content of late, how big of a change in thinking was that to get it into the sim and working correctly with all the nuances involved in oval racing physics and rulesets?

TW: We’re still working on the rules, they’re incredibly complex from a design standpoint. The sheer number of variables for what appears a simple rule is just mind blowing.

RD: Are you happy with how it’s gone, the fan reaction seems very positive so far and the steady stream of 3PA oval / roval tracks has been very impressive

TW: Would like to see more of the rF1 stock car leagues moving over sometime soon. If leagues want to work with us to arrange bulk purchase deals, they should contact us.

RD: Speaking of tracks, its been a long while since the last “major” official track release, can you share with us some highlights of what tracks fans might expect to see in the coming year?

TW: Our track team spend their time helping the 3PA guys and working on their own projects. I think ISITrackTeam on Twitter does a petty good job of teasing upcoming content, whether that is their “rising sun” updates, or Toban (which is probably next).

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RD: Same question , this time related to upcoming car content. We heard many months ago about a proposed Super GT car and more recently the Daytona Prototype, how are things progressing with these?

TW: As always with cars it seems, we’re waiting on data. Teams have two seasons: Winter vacation and racing season. We have quite a few cars at a similar state, so once data starts to come in we’ll have a good batch of releases (including those you mention).

RD: Does the team have any inclination to include further historic content, possibly a playmate to the sublime BT20 Grand Prix car in future?

TW: We have some licensed, but they’ve simply never made it to the top of the stack yet. As a historics fan, this pains me greatly! We’d welcome inquiries from mod groups interested in working on licensed content.

RD: Of course many old historic cars use the classic h pattern gearbox and heal and toe technique, how does the team intend to penalise those who use paddle shift and no clutch to prevent laptime advantage against drivers using an h pattern configuration?

TW: We still have plans to release an updated drivetrain model.

RD: The Third Party Affiliate Scheme (3PA) seems like it’s been a huge success for ISI since its inception, how does this work? Do you approach people or do they have to apply to ISI with a finished product?

TW: Either way. Usually we have a track model we are offered by a studio using our engine, we then find someone to work on bringing that track up to spec. In a few cases people have come to us with near completed content of varying quality and we’ve helped them to complete it.

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RD: Will ISI be looking into the possibility for enhanced rF2 support to run more than 40 cars on the grid during an online event? Of course that has been seen already but in practice it has shown that running more than 40 cars online regularly leads to issues such as stuttering/connection loss and other critical issues?

TW: Nothing stopping you from running more than 40 cars. If you have issues I’d look into how plugins being used cope with the data, or how the server load is.

RD: Also on the topic of multiplayer / player to player interaction could we have a little insight into the developer’s thoughts about a robust player ranking system similar to the system we see in titles like iRacing?

TW: You won’t see a feature like that from us, but we obviously would and have supported any organization wishing to develop their own version. Our plugin system can be used for many features like this that instead of charging a subscription for, we want to see people able to do for themselves – if they want.

I think you’ll see a public launch of a few sites over the next few months.

RD: Regarding match maker, is this side of the sim due for further support and polish and could be expect more features in the theme of things like Chat, Iobby, filters, and a working matchmaker Iist where you can see how many people are online including Steam and non Steam clients?

TW: Yes, we’ve been looking at this lately (within the past two weeks).

RD: The damage model in rF2 is more restrained than some other titles at present, would it be possible, and is it considered on the teams to do list, to add features around suspension damage i.e when riding curbs / going off road in a violent way cause noticeable damage to your cars suspension and do plans exist to create a more sophisticated damage model in general?

TW: It might be something we look at in the future, but not sure what will/won’t be seen in rFactor 2.

RD: rFactor 2 has been in development for a number of years now and continues to be improved and developed with each new build released by the team. Do you at ISI have a development timeframe for this title, basically how much longer do you expect to support rFactor 2 before retiring development and looking to move onto rFactor 3 and/or other projects?

TW: Internal planning and discussion on another title (not rF3) has taken place, but rF2 is still our focus product at this time.

RD: If money and other blockers were no issue, which Marques would you ideally like to see licensed in the sim?

TW: All those tracks who are used to being paid by Sony and Microsoft for console titles, unable to comprehend what a niche sim racing title even is, and why their budgets differ. Though I’d focus more on racing cars than road cars, the same applies.

RD: Rumour has it that the exclusive Porsche licence comes up for renewal soon, any chance of seeing some of the German sports and racing cars in future for rF2?

TW: Not if they sit themselves behind an agency who’re more interested in their fees than promoting the brand they’re licensing.

RD: Almost finished now… so do you guys want to tell us anything else that we haven’t already covered so far in this interview? This is a chance to speak directly to our many thousands of readers here at RaceDepartment.com who follow with interest the development of rFactor.

TW: I guess the biggest recent event is Steam, and we are pretty happy with how well the transition to Steam has gone. We encourage people to look into the Workshop as we continue to find new ways to make it a bigger part of rF2!

RD: Now comes that time where I ask you to think up an imaginative way to say no without hurting my feelings….. An unapologetic attempt to secure a RaceDepartment exclusive piece of news! Anything you want to share with our many readers that aren’t already widely known in the sim community?

TW: We are looking into possibility of paid mods as part of rF2. I’ve mentioned this a few times but it’s getting serious now. There’s no reason someone shouldn’t be able to give the community what it wants when developers aren’t able to.



Big thanks go out to Tim at Image Space Incorporated for kindly taking time out of a busy schedule and answering our questions here today. Visit the rFactor 2 section of RaceDepartment for all the latest news regarding this sim.

rFactor 2 is available to buy now on the Steam platform or as a standalone edition direct from the ISI website.

Enjoyed our interview? What do you think of rFactor 2? How does the game perform in your opinion? Let us know in the comments section below!
 
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Really rF2 has great physics but no more
Major Disinformation. Not only are rFactor 2's physics and FFB the simracing benchmark, its AI behavior is also miles ahead of anything on the market today.
It also has real dynamic rubber build up, weather/rain and dynamic drying line. It has the most extensive and flexible race rule support with resume from replay savegames for long distance races, among many other things.
no complete content, we are waiting modders work (enduracers, etc) to have something to race with...
rFactor 2 is a dedicated modding platform with real-time Dev Mode, Modern packaging system (standardized way of installing/uninstalling mods that won't break your install and solves mismatches), Multiplayer with auto-downloading of mods, Steam Workshop support, among many other things. Consider default content a bonus.
And last time I checked there was plenty of default and 3rd party content to race with, and more is in the works.
 
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rFactor 2 is a dedicated modding platform

Yeah, most people forget that this sim isnt your every day pCars crap. Also most people missed the line where he mentioned how many people are working on it. They just dont have the capacity to throw everything overboard just for some fancy graphics and dX12.

They have other priorities and plans I applaud them for sticking to it.
 
What I got from this interview is that I should be looking forward to rf3 and give up on rf2 or at least not expect too much from that title in the future. Yes, nobody (including isi) seems to know specifics and dates of rf3, but that means it's the same as with rf2; nobody (including isi) seems to know specifics and dates of rf2.

EDIT: Some people somehow interpreted that as if I believe rf3 is coming or that ISi has some plans regarding successor to rf2. They explicitly state that they do not. This is the point I'm making. They seem to have made exactly the same plans for rf2, as in no clear plans at all. From a perspective of the consumer it makes just as much, if not more, sense to just give up on rf2 entirely and wait to see if the features or content I am looking for will be implemented in rf3.

I want rf2 to move to dx11. Not because it's gonna look better, but because it's probably the only way to get decent fps. ISI can't be asked to optimise their engine and official content (anyone else had a closer look at rf2's Bathurst? Why is the engine rendering dynamic shadows for 5 flags that are over 100 metres away from me? At medium shadow settings? Was this intentional f*ck you to everyone that doesn't have $1500 pc?) so maybe the move to dx11 would increase performance in general and we wouldn't have to rely on incremental improvements, which may or may not happen, from ISI.

Above all, what frustrates me the most is not what this title could be, how much better and more content we could have or how the communication and planning from the devs are not very transparent for a title that prides itself as a modding platform. What's really sad is that community shows much greater interest, faith and ambitions towards this title than its own developer. I can can be sympathetic to a lot of bullcrap that plagues community (And especially rf2 fanatics and haters) but this is one thing that I cannot fathom.
 
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...wait guys...don't shoot on me...

Btw, we already have an annual fee to pay...now this?

"TW: We are looking into possibility of paid mods as part of rF2. I’ve mentioned this a few times but it’s getting serious now. There’s no reason someone shouldn’t be able to give the community what it wants when developers aren’t able to..."

Seriously???
 
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To be honest I just hope the rest of team at ISI have more passion then this guy, it sounds like he took a job doing corporate marketing and doesn't care what industry he is in could beracing Sims or tampon sales, he'd probably have the same enthusiasm towards both. It's a shame really in an industry that thrives on the community aspect he really was a let down.

Great questions though and a little bit of a push was great, but unfortunately let down by Tim.
 
To be honest I just hope the rest of team at ISI have more passion then this guy, it sounds like he took a job doing corporate marketing and doesn't care what industry he is in could beracing Sims or tampon sales, he'd probably have the same enthusiasm towards both. It's a shame really in an industry that thrives on the community aspect he really was a let down.

Great questions though and a little bit of a push was great, but unfortunately let down by Tim.
These answers aren't really from him, it's from ISI boss (forgot the name). See ISI forums lately (the DX9 to DX11 thread), the guy is just doing his job
 
These answers aren't really from him, it's from ISI boss (forgot the name). See ISI forums lately (the DX9 to DX11 thread), the guy is just doing his job
Yeah, I have to agree. For all the negative comments people post, including me, I wish people would consider that Tim had to deal with this for a good while and it's probably best to not judge him on the tone or way in which he communicates with people. I personally have problems with the specfic details and amount of info we get, not so much legitimate enthusiasm that comes (or doesn't) from Tim. If I was in his place, I would probably start shooting by now.
 
What I got from this interview is that I should be looking forward to rf3 and give up on rf2 or at least not expect too much from that title in the future. Yes, nobody (including isi) seems to know specifics and dates of rf3, but that means it's the same as with rf2; nobody (including isi) seems to know specifics and dates of rf2.

Interesting how you managed to spin this to rF3. Not in a word does ISI mention rF3, in fact quite the opposite:

TW: Internal planning and discussion on another title (not rF3) has taken place, but rF2 is still our focus product at this time.

Also another source captured on isiforums few weeks ago:

rF3 isn’t on the board at the moment. Something else is. (source).

Really rF2 has great physics (ok ok, even rain, etc etc) but no more, no complete content, we are waiting modders work (enduracers, etc) to have something to race with...

rF2 website lists over 30 official cars and there is plenty of endurance content from both Apex and EnduRacers (and more coming). Yes, other big titles have more cars, but sometimes I wonder how much content sim racers need to be satisfied. Surely 90% of the crowd haven't even got around trying every official rF2 car.
 
ok I will try again to explain my point of view...
...rF2 has great physics...
...has night, rain, etc etc...
...but...
...content development is slow, you have a great looking and working car or track but also old cars and tracks models in the same sim...
...not a coerent and complete overall package, being confident on modders to fill the holes (in content) isn't a smart move as devs, some mods take years to be completed, others are crap, you can load an impressive track or a bugged one with one click...
...or I am crazy?I am the only one?
 
content development is slow

Small team plus no half measures or half solutions. Nothing strange about that.

you have a great looking and working car or track but also old cars and tracks models in the same sim...

This applies to every current sim on the market.

being confident on modders to fill the holes

Which holes do you mean? rFactor 2 is a modding platform and has never been advertised as anything but that.
 
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Content development is slow compared to other titles, true. Relying on modders isn't a smart move? Depends. This is exactly what rF1 did (it had even less original content), and it was the most successful PC sim for years.
Too much moders went to AC tho, rF1 days are gone.
Seriously, put a photo graphic engine and some PP effects that can hide bad models and people will come. Unfortunately that's how it is.
Stock content are needed anyway, especially the tracks. The cars not so much, people can find alternatives, but when you lack tracks it's a big problem IMO
 
Interesting how you managed to spin this to rF3. Not in a word does ISI mention rF3, in fact quite the opposite:
If anything it's you managing to fail to spin my comment. I was saying PRECISELY that ISI seems to have no plans regarding rf3. In the interview they only say they discussed it and they have general idea for the future, but don't have any plans and don't actively complete them. This is exactly the feeling I get when I look at the amount of work they did in rf2 from the beginning of this year.

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Call me blind, call me stupid, I am not seeing much work put into rf2 at all. And, the impression I got from the interview is that they really have no plans as to what to do with rf2. Kind of likerf3. Which was my point.
 
@Paul Jeffrey Thanks for the interview and for pushing Tim on the VR question :thumbsup: Not the answer I was hoping for, but at least we are no longer left in the dark about this.

For rF2 players the HTC Vive might still be an option if ISI decides to support it, since it also works in DX9.
From what I've read on it, there are ways in which you can make the Rift work using DX9, it just requires a bit of work. Personally, I am hoping the community will do something about it. I don't need to have menus and UI fully implemented into VR to enjoy it as long as I can race with the rift and not suffer a great loss of functionality.
 
rF2 website lists over 30 official cars and there is plenty of endurance content from both Apex and EnduRacers (and more coming). Yes, other big titles have more cars, but sometimes I wonder how much content sim racers need to be satisfied. Surely 90% of the crowd haven't even got around trying every official rF2 car.

I never understood the complains regarding content, ISI stock content features many known racing series, even some street cars. But I guess it's not enough for people who needs to try one car every day, regardless of the quality.
 
I don't think rf2's lack of success is about graphics. I think it is combination of many things. The yearly fee for online has certainly killed the online for the game and when you have built such good paywall it is no wonder if people don't come back after their subs run out. Imho, if you want to pay for online access buy a console.

The car and track selection is not good either and after all these years they have not even released all the cars they showed back when the title originally came out. I don't personally give two turds about some handful gt cars or single seaters when the competitors have cars like F40, 599gto or selection of completely new brazilian tracks and cars for example. With realistic physics. Sure no rain but I'll take hundred interesting cars over couple interesting features any day. Just like I take laser scanned track over non-scanned one.

What killed rf2 was lack of commitment from isi themselves. People don't want to rely on mods when choosing their primary sims. Mods don't sell a game. Mods make the game last. People want decent base package with obvious potential. I don't think rf2 ever had that. Its official content was hit and miss and modding was hurt by some weird decisions and also lack of documentation - which lead to smaller number of mods released for the sim. If you want to draw in folks you don't do it by offering same old regurgitated content.

Rf2 fanboys always blame the graphics of the game as the reason why assetto corsa sold hundreds of thousands of copies (?). It is an easy and convenient excuse. The thing is when ac launched they had confidence in their game. They had laser scanned tracks with real names. They bought real lisences. They added content and did not rely on modders to start from 0 and pay the yearly fees just to be able sell isi's game. Ac would have done just as well with similar graphical quality as rf2 because the graphics is just small one factor why so many bought ac and not rf2.

I hope there is lesson learned for isi somewhere there. They are obviusly very capable bunch of people and looking at the feature list rf2 surely tried to bring new things to the genre. rf2 definitely deserved to succeed but sadly isi didn't. And as such rf2 did not succeed either. I they make rf3 at some point. Launch it with proper amount of content and support it and then allow the community support you. If you want money sell dlcs and drop the stupid yearly fee. You want as many people as possible to play your game, not as few as possible.
 
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@Paul Jeffrey Thanks for the interview and for pushing Tim on the VR question :thumbsup: Not the answer I was hoping for, but at least we are no longer left in the dark about this.

Lol, It's ISI : Never say, never! :D
Did he say no to VR? Or not at this moment?

What did ISI said about a steam release a year ago? :whistling:

The interview unveils nothing about their future plans. They never do. :D

rF2 DX11 or something else by the end of this year? Just a wild guess. :barefoot:
 
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