F1 2010 F1 2010 - Arcade or Simulation?

[Marcel Ascher]

I heard a lot of stuff about F1 2010.
For my opinion it looks a little bit more arcade.


what do you think?

 

[Don Davis]

David. regarding the lap times issue. that would explain alot. Bah. i SO want to just do F1. oh wells back to iracing. i got a DP season to finish out

 

[wozkol]

/me disappointed

 

[Mehmet Arikan]

first game where i like more the co-driver position the graphics looks great
the driving feels with gamepad - more then horrible or i am noob with it :rally:

And i dont like "Helena" i want Jane

 

[Ingemar Petersson]

It´s a Codemasters game.................

 

[David Wright]

Also it seems rubber banding is in even when the devs said it wasnt,anyone can take a look at their own files in regard to this.

There is no rubber banding. Codies have used the rubber banding coding to allow a leading AI driver with a big lead over the next car to back off, as they do in real life. Very clever if you ask me

 

[Brigido Rubio]

Superarcade.... you cannot spin when reaching certain speed. Try to steer at 250kms/h and counter steert. You wont never spin. I hope modding community will improve this. I love counter steering in f1 and feel car mass displacement, etc

 

[Bram Hengeveld]

At 250km/h a F1 car generates so much downforce that it could literally drive up side down on the ceiling. Why should it be able to spin at such speeds I wonder?

How much do you see Rubens countersteer in the fast parts of the track?

Or Kubica on Monaco?

Superarcade....

No, I think you are supermisinformed about F1

 

[David O Gorman]

There is no rubber banding. Codies have used the rubber banding coding to allow a leading AI driver with a big lead over the next car to back off, as they do in real life. Very clever if you ask me

That seems quite a strange thing to do as it seems the ai dont carry fuel loads(qualifying lap times at the first qcouple of laps of the race) and their speed isnt affected by damage or engine wear ,rain(posting better lap times in the wet than in the dry)
So why do they have to slow down to conserve these things.
If they were operating under the same rules and restrictions as the player then yea i could see the point but they arent,
half the time they are ignoring pitstops and tire changes required under the rules of F1 racing.

And whats funnier is targa has posted that they couldn't get the ai to compete competitively in practice and quali (so they give them random times)so how are they matching quali times posted in the first few laps of the race,seems more like they need the player on the track racing to bring the rubber banding into play for the race to work.

Lastly there is no time generated by the game in relation to how far back or in front another car is (at least for the player)so how are the ai calculating when to bring that rubber banding in to play.

PS :A while back Targa posted when a question was asked about rubber banding,he replied that under no circumstances would he want a game with rubber banding ai in it .
I wonder what changed.

 

[Ryan Vickery]

This is not an arcade game, it isnt in any arcades i am aware of, and it certaintly doesnt play like Daytona USA or Sega Rally. F1 2010 is a racing game, it isnt an accurate simulation and the driving system isnt the best by a long way but its a pretty good game, to non enthusiasts it will probably be very difficult to play.

Graphics wise it is fanstastic, the tracks are amazingly well done, so detailed in terms of eye candy, something that no other game/sim can even compare to. The sounds are great, the AI is better than any other racing game/sim to date.

Im not a fan of the physics or the FFB, i do enjoy other games alot more in this area, but F1 2010 is a Racing game, a pretty good one, its not an "arcade game" it couldnt be further from that, and in many areas it manages to surpass pretty much every other game.


It is not a sim in terms of Rfactor, Iracing, LFS, FVA... but an arcade game it is not.. have a think about what the phrase "Arcade game" means. What F1 2010 is... is a Racing Game.

 

[Ivo Simons]

What is Daytona USA or Sega Rally then? A Golf game? :wink:
Indeed its not Arcade, its between Forza and Race Pro like i said before, imo.
Simcade was the word i believe.

 

[Bram Hengeveld]

Simcade was the word i believe.

Damn forgot about that one That's it, discussion closed now ? Or continue wether or not we call it Arcalation instead of simcade?

 

[Ryan Vickery]

What is Daytona USA or Sega Rally then? A Golf game? :wink:
Indeed its not Arcade, its between Forza and Race Pro like i said before, imo.
Simcade was the word i believe.

Well i always thought Sega Rally was a hovercraft sim, until i realised that a Lancia Delta was not a hovercraft!

 

[Ivo Simons]

Hehe but you still raced.
Hovercraft or car.

 

[Ryan Vickery]

I think the point is that Sega Rally/Daytona were games that were made for arcades, with no intention of being realistic at all, then converted onto consoles due to their success. Aye they were Racing games, but they were born in arcades, they are the benchmark arcade racing games of the early 90's, you cant compare F1 2010 to those games.

For the record, I loved sega rally, I played it to death on my sega saturn ^^.

 

[isamu]

What is Daytona USA or Sega Rally then? A Golf game? :wink:

No, they're fantastic games and two classics that will never be outdone. Daytona in particular stands head and shoulders above any other arcade racing game to this date. Hence why I enjoy it so much:

 

[Ondrej Kapal]

it is shame they couldnt get different (real) wheels for each monopost and real rev lights

 

[Bram Hengeveld]

it is shame they couldnt get different (real) wheels for each monopost and real rev lights

Aren't there mods out that fix that?