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Cutting rules at Monza too strict? The end of the discussion is near.

Bram Hengeveld

RaceDepartment Founder
Staff member
Dec 26, 2006
Whaha, while we are complaining about the cutting rules at Monza being too strict compared to what we were used to in RACE - The WTCC Game i must admit that i prefer the stricter one for sure now. Let's close the discussion.

Just found this "hotlap" for the Xbox RACE Pro on youtube and that looks awefully like how we drove the RACE 06 track, yikes i dont want to go back to that anymore. Better too strict then too loose imho. I am cured of the complaining after this seeing this lap:


Also notice how bad the gears are used in this movie, while the Alfa has so much potential driving a hotlap on Monza:) My respect to the top RACE 07 drivers that nail a 1:57 with RACE 07 cutting rules grew today. Weldone!

Ben Tusting

Mar 5, 2008
After seeing that movie, the Monza rules may be annoying but I'm now okay with them after seeing that video.
Graphics look gooooooooooood
Mar 26, 2008
i think the rules are too strict in race07. imo you should be able to drive with the 2 outside wheels on the curbs but not more. like 52 sec into this illegal lap

Stuart Thomson

The Stoat Without Fear ™
Jul 2, 2008
Perhaps there's ben some license taken with the cut rules to allow for the x-box controller being the default input device?

I'm not excusing it, it's just a theory.

Maurice Hurkmans

RD Travel Expert
Dec 27, 2006
Awful! I won't complain with the cutting rules of Monza 07 anymore, this lap is just *speechless*

And agree, the downshifting is terrible aswell :D

Adam Vaughan

Nov 11, 2008
In a game called ferrari challenge for PS3 the Monza cutting rules just werent there. And I was with a community that wanted fair racing yet when we raced with public the public well they were all cutting and we agreed we never would so we were losing a good 3-5 seconds on some corners. This would have been made simpler by a stricter rule. And im 100% agree that stricter rules are better. Otherwise if we all agree to not cut. Who says someone 20 seconds in front or behind you isnt going to cut while no1's around? Keep it as it is and club and league racing will be sooo much better.

Ingo Voellinger

In Monza i always have 2 warnings after 2 laps but i like the cutting rules.
The only place in race07 where i dont like the rule, is curitiba turn 1, should be more strict there.


Jun 22, 2008
To be honest, I never understood the complains about the cutting rules in Monza. On one hand you can have 2 tyres on the curb without being warned, on the other hand, you know they are there, so just drive clean. All have the same rules, so no disadvantage!
This is for me like crying about the fact that it rains. That will not change it!

To Bram's and Simon's point about the gear usage:
Sorry for my ignorance (I always want to learn something :)), why is it awful? What I see is, it seems he did not adjust the lower gears to the track (the first chicane is a first gear spot), otherwise he seems to be lazy. Further, when I do not use the throttle before T1 while downshifting I usually spin. Anything more, more drastic mistakes?

Ross Balfour

#99 | Roaring Pipes Maniacs
Feb 25, 2008
I dont see the point in cutting to go fast, the quickest driver will be the one who can keep his car on track the fastest, after watching this I agree with Bram, I prefer to see the cutting rules as they are now, but the Imola ones are still far too strict IMO.

Bram Hengeveld

RaceDepartment Founder
Staff member
Dec 26, 2006
Imola and Monza are quite even i think. Only the Imola corner is very hard because the entry speed is higher :)
I like all cutting rules since yesterday, except Cu(r)tiba which is an absolute joke that the first corner has never been adjusted: totally unplayable as last Saturday's race proved.
@Dietmar, the last Parabolica curve is a 3rd gear corner. The fact he takes this one (and others) in fourth gear means imo that his gears are not properly setup for perfect acceleration. He reaches the rev limiter before the entry of Lesmo 2 :D
Sep 16, 2008
Nope, still think the cutting rules are far too strict in most GTRE tracks...GTR2 was perfect. The rules in GTRE are bordering on rediculous.

Rules in GTR2 allowed you to go 4 wheels on the curb...which some leagues allow. If a league doesn't want people doing this, it's up to them to enforce it. Just my opinion though.

James Johnson

The Weatherman
Jan 17, 2007
Some Corners on RACE 07 E.g: Imola and Monza you stick one wheel on kerb and bang Times Gone because your Deemed Cutting the Track! For putting a wheel on the kerb. still that cutting on video was Very Bad. :D

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