2009 Formula One Hungarian Grand Prix

[John Debacquer]

The Massa thing could have ended even more wurse:

MOD NOTE: STOP WITH THE IMAGES NOW. ONCE IS ENOUGH, THOSE CONCERNED SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE GOOGLE IF THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE IT

Massa stable, airlifted to hospital

Felipe Massa has been airlifted to a nearby hospital in a 'stable' condition following his big accident in qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix.
The Brazilian's car was struck by debris on the run into Turn 4, possibly from Rubens Barrichello's car, and his car plunged straight off the track at full throttle and head first into the wall.
Massa was removed from the car and taken to the track's medical centre, before being flown by helicopter. Television footage showed that was he was moving after the accident.
An FIA spokeswoman confirmed that Massa was in a 'stable' condition but there were no further details about the extent of any injuries.

The question is is if he will race tomorow.

 

[Damian Henderson]

No one they said in German television, in respect of Massa, to show he's not simply replaceable.

If Massa can't race then no one else is allowed to as you have to put a qualifying lap in to be able to race.

 

[Mark Birney]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/25/felipe-massa-hungarian-gran-prix-crash

He ain't racing.

They would get Badoer if a replacement was allowed, but even if he was, he'd start at the back. I don't think there will be 2 Ferraris tomorrow.

 

[John Debacquer]

Massa suffers skull damage, concussion

Felipe Massa will need to undergo surgery after it emerged he has suffered bone damage of his skull and a brain concussion in his accident at the Hungarian Grand Prix.

The Brazilian will be forced to miss the race after he was hit in the head by debris believed to belong to Rubens Barrichello's car.

Massa was airlifted to a Budapest hospital, where he remains in stable condition.

Ferrari said in a statement that Massa will need to undergo surgery and will have to stay under observation in intensive care for an undisclosed period of time.

"After the accident during the qualifying session of the Grand Prix of Hungary, Felipe Massa was airlifted to the AEK hospital in Budapest," the statement said. "Felipe was conscious at the arrival at the hospital and his general conditions remain stable.

"Following a complete medical examination it emerged that he had suffered a cut on his forehead, a bone damage of his skull and a brain concussion. These conditions need to be operated on after which he will remain under observation in intensive care."

The team said further information will be released later tonight.

Seems to be bad...

 

[Mark Birney]

Dayum... Poor guy.

The FIA have to put the helmets into investigation. There have been 2 cases now in a short period of time involving debris hitting the helmet, one fatal, and one bloody well near fatal.

 

[Trebor901]

well the helmets are stupidly strong and anyway they do it at their own risk

 

[Mark Birney]

Yeh, perhaps there's nothing they can do.

 

[Martin Vrba]

guys, please don't post images here, post links instead... not everybody wants to see the poor guy in this shape

thanks for understanding...

get well soon Felipe, we'll miss you

 

[Patrick van Driel]

Hope Massa recovers fast from this weird accident.
I wish him all the best. :good:

 

[Damian Henderson]

Number Car Driver Weight [kg]
01 McLaren Mercedes Lewis Hamilton 650.5
02 McLaren Mercedes Heikki Kovalainen 655.5
04 Ferrari Kimi Räikkönen 651.5
05 BMW Sauber Robert Kubica *666.0
06 BMW Sauber Nick Heidfeld *658.0
07 Renault Fernando Alonso 637.5
08 Renault Nelson Piquet *667.7
09 Toyota Jarno Trulli *671.3
10 Toyota Timo Glock *679.2
11 STR Ferrari Jaime Alguersuari *675.5
12 STR Ferrari Sébastien Buemi *671.5
14 RBR Renault Mark Webber 652.0
15 RBR Renault Sebastian Vettel 655.0
16 Williams Toyota Nico Rosberg 654.0
17 Williams Toyota Kazuki Nakajima 658.0
20 Force India Mercedes Adrian Sutil *683.5
21 Force India Mercedes Giancarlo Fisichella *680.5
22 Brawn Mercedes Jenson Button 664.5
23 Brawn Mercedes Rubens Barrichello *689.0

 

[Ben Tusting]

Massa undergoes successful surgery

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77288

 

[Ben Tusting]

Damian in order

Pos Driver Weight (kg)
1. Alonso Renault 637.5
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 655.0
3. Webber Red Bull-Renault 652.0
4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 650.5
5. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 654.0
6. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 655.5
7. Raikkonen Ferrari 651.5
8. Button Brawn-Mercedes 664.5
9. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 658.0
10. Massa Ferrari
11. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 671.5
12. Trulli Toyota 671.3
13. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 689.0
14. Glock Toyota 679.2
15. Piquet Renault 667.7
16. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 658.0
17. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 680.5
18. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 683.5
19. Kubica BMW-Sauber 666.0
20. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 675.5

 

[Christian Lyngbye]

You would think they might make some kind of protective glass shield as a mandatory safety measure to divert debris from hitting the driver's head.

BTW it's typical of Alonso going for a 'light' pole.

Raikkonen posted a pretty good first sector in Q3 but blew it by touching the grass on the exit of a corner. I guess his glory days are over.

 

[Damian Henderson]

Fuel Adjusted Times

1 Sebastian Vettel (lap 20)
2 Mark Webber + 0.242 seconds (lap 19)
3 Nico Rosberg +0.319 (lap 18)
4 Lewis Hamilton + 0.394 (lap 18)
5 Heikki Kovalainen +0.470 (lap 20)
6 Jenson Button +0.562 (lap 25)
7 Alonso +0.592 (lap 13)
8 Kimi Raikkonen +0.987 (lap 18)
9 Kazukia Nakajima +1.120 (lap 20)

 

[Hannu Karesola]

Raikkonen posted a pretty good first sector in Q3 but blew it by touching the grass on the exit of a corner. I guess his glory days are over.

We've seen something like 5 guys whose glory days were over years ago in front of the field this season and almost same amount of champions (or almost) racing behind top ten. So pretty much it is the car which makes difference. If you have good one you just drive and enjoy but when it's bit slower you need to push it and do whatever you can and that often means something else than perfect laps.

 

[Damian Henderson]

"Serious, life-threatening but stable" according to the doctors. (Sky News)

 

[Mark Birney]

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/07/25/massa-undergoes-surgery-in-intensive-care/

He has some hemorrhaging apparently, and might miss the rest of the season

Jesus, I hope it doesn't force him to pre-mature retirement

 

[James Johnson]

Good News Coming from JA's Twitter. http://twitter.com/Jamesallenonf1

#f1 Massa's doctor reporting to Brazilian media that brain scan is clear and signs are positive. Family is en route to Hungary now

 

[Hannu Karesola]

Hopefully he will get well soon.

Crashing to spring with that speed really proves that those helmets are almost bullet proof and are doing exactly what is planned.

 

[Mark Birney]

Good

19. Kubica BMW-Sauber 666.0

'Tis a sign!