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Spare Few Million In The Bank? Mont-Tremblant For Sale!

To a man who owns all the toys he will ever need, apparently an epic race circuit isn't really one of them as Aston Martin team owner Lawrence Stroll has put up his Mont-Tremblant circuit for sale.

Once the home of the Formula One Canadian Grand Prix, Mont-Tremblant is one of those circuits that quite simply screams awesomeness at every single turn. Built into a stunning landscape and containing some fearsome and technical corners as part of the 2.65 mile 17 turn lap, the circuit has always been something of a favourite of drivers, despite recent years having seen less and less racing events and more corporate driving days filling up the yearly calendar.

Having been taken over by Canadian billionaire Stroll back in 2000 and subsequently going through a significant redesign, the track is very much in top condition from both a safety and driver perspective - although with his plate rather full thanks to Aston Martin road and racing commitments, and a son very much in the main throes of a Grand Prix career, it looks like this incredible venue can be snapped up by the right buyer, but you will probably need a few spare millions to get your own name above the door....

Onboard lap of Mont-Tremblant courtesy of Michel Fortin YouTube:
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We could run through the numbers, comparing those interested in motorsports with the population in general, but suffice to say that even when drastically overestimating the motorsports fanbase it still falls well shy of even 10% of the total population. That’s not to say motorsports is the smallest niche sport out there, there are many which engage a much smaller audience, but the difference is that motorsports utilizes a fairly large area and is loud and proud when we do so. Therein lies the issue.

Sound is the number one complaint about race tracks. Too loud, too long, too much, it is a cumulative effect when you are talking about the sound of race cars. For most of us, it is music to our ears but to others it is the bane of their existence, especially when it lasts for five or six hours. We can sit and argue about how they “…knew it was a race track when they moved in next door” or “…the race track was there first” but that all becomes a moot point when enough of the nonracing population bands together to combat what they see as a threat to their peace and quiet. And, as we learned, more than 90% of the population is not on our side of the fence in these battles.

 

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We could run through the numbers, comparing those interested in motorsports with the population in general, but suffice to say that even when drastically overestimating the motorsports fanbase it still falls well shy of even 10% of the total population. That’s not to say motorsports is the smallest niche sport out there, there are many which engage a much smaller audience, but the difference is that motorsports utilizes a fairly large area and is loud and proud when we do so. Therein lies the issue.

Sound is the number one complaint about race tracks. Too loud, too long, too much, it is a cumulative effect when you are talking about the sound of race cars. For most of us, it is music to our ears but to others it is the bane of their existence, especially when it lasts for five or six hours. We can sit and argue about how they “…knew it was a race track when they moved in next door” or “…the race track was there first” but that all becomes a moot point when enough of the nonracing population bands together to combat what they see as a threat to their peace and quiet. And, as we learned, more than 90% of the population is not on our side of the fence in these battles.

...and yet the revenue to local business, taxes etc. help or possibly even are a major contributor to those areas for employment. Take Charlotte Motor Speedway, the Hub of NASCAR which took a paltry town and turned it into a teeming city centre and then and only then the complaints come in. Very narrow and short sighted of those that complain. I get your point but some places wouldn't exist today. Kind of like the new residential area that is next to a farm and they complain about the smell or tractor noise if you see what I mean. But alas we are a selfish self centred lot.
 
The part about the residents complaining is confusing as the article I read said they did not want the land developed for residential or commercial use. So what? Leave it as a track with no racing? Most of it is track day stuff anyway and I'm sure there are noise constraints for the evenings and early mornings.
They probably hope it can be turned into a park, something like that. the surroundings are very beautiful. Not too far away is Morin Heights, where there used to be a world famous studio. Many albums by Bowie, The Police, Rush, Asia, etc. were recorded there before it closed.

I do hope the circuit can be saved, it’s an old school track, very challenging and as someone mentioned, it’s like a mini-Nordschleife. The last major event there was a CART race in 2007.
 
My guess: some real estate firm will buy the land and build expensive condos. (I completely agree with Michel Bélisle, Mt-Tremblant is a tourist trap...)
I think Croft had the same issue. But after reading Bill Gates's book on climate change... man do I hate the real estate industry? I hope they burn in hell!
 
AFAIK (and it's mostly from a Maclean's article from 15 years ago), the neighbours aren't complaining that there is noise coming from a race track per se, but rather that:

1) Helicopters are used very frequently, sometimes at night, by the track itself but also by Lawrence Stroll.

2) The number of active days has increased significantly over the years.

3) They didn't really expect unmuffled cars to be predominant.

I'm not going to guess who's in the right and who's in the wrong, but it's perhaps a bit more complicated than "Person buys property next to a race track, complains about the noise".
When you're buying a property near a freaking racing track, one that has hosted F1 GPs, it's kind of natural that from time to time(like every other week) there will be someone coming with a chopper. Racing isn't football, Joe Average doesn't own or need one. But those who own Ferraris often have the means to travel private by all kinds of air transport. It's kind of logical... it happens even on the karting tracks!
It's so funny, I should buy a house next to an airport and then demand it to be closed because there are too many noisy airplanes...
 
it already exists. I have it for AC.
Yeah, but it's not accurate - not even close, sadly.

It's a GRID Autosport port, and although it has a beautiful atmosphere, it's just not realistic enough. (At least for me.)

I do hope someone spends the time to create a LIDAR version, of course.
 
The noise argument is becoming common place. There are people that complain about the noise at Laguna Seca as well. In both, Laguna Seca and Mont-Tremblant cases, what is maddening is that these tracks were in operation in the 1960's. So, if a developer built some houses next to it, well, buyers should have been aware.

I have heard the same kind of complaints about people that by residential properties near airports.
The world is rapidly moving to electric... so delays neighbors issue for another 10 year and problem will be 90% solved (noise from tires will remain).
 
This is perhaps an excellent opportunity for the current owner to license it to, say, Reiza, s397, iRacing, or whoever to scan it. The license would not cost too much (comparatively), but the exposure could do well to advertise this beautiful track to a hopeful buyer. If not it is a good way to archive it for posterity. Win win - except perhaps for the residents who'd rather it not be there.

Not sure what Tremblant looked like before Intrawest bought it, but I can imagine it was a bit of a sleepy country town with a small ski hill. Now that it is hyper commercialized, it attracts a different clientele as well. These style of resorts have been edging the ski industry into a place a elitism.

The town itself needs the ski hill to bring traffic and the tax revenue from the stores and weekend residents for it's survival. It doesn't need this race track. The track exists because passionate people wanted it there. These people tend to get displaced in these resort towns by people with larger wallets who are more vocal about what they do and don't want. Real estate drives this engine. It's also the thing that keeps the ski hill out of the red
 
Yeah, but it's not accurate - not even close, sadly.

It's a GRID Autosport port, and although it has a beautiful atmosphere, it's just not realistic enough. (At least for me.)

I do hope someone spends the time to create a LIDAR version, of course.
Agreed. It's the best I could find. Maybe whomever did the Calabogie and Mosport tracks can take on the challenge.
 
This is perhaps an excellent opportunity for the current owner to license it to, say, Reiza, s397, iRacing, or whoever to scan it. The license would not cost too much (comparatively), but the exposure could do well to advertise this beautiful track to a hopeful buyer. If not it is a good way to archive it for posterity. Win win - except perhaps for the residents who'd rather it not be there.

Not sure what Tremblant looked like before Intrawest bought it, but I can imagine it was a bit of a sleepy country town with a small ski hill. Now that it is hyper commercialized, it attracts a different clientele as well. These style of resorts have been edging the ski industry into a place a elitism.

The current owner is Lawrence Stroll. You might've heard of him :).

As for what Tremblant was before it became an elitist ski resort, it was still a large tourist attraction, albeit more of a local one. I'm no skiier, but I remember, in the early 90's, that it was THE ski resort in Québec.

A friend of mine who grew up a few kilometers away tells me that they used to always go there as a kid in the 90's, but that around 98-99 it became way too luxurious and expensive, and the locals couldn't really afford it anymore.
 
Yeah, but it's not accurate - not even close, sadly.

It's a GRID Autosport port, and although it has a beautiful atmosphere, it's just not realistic enough. (At least for me.)

I do hope someone spends the time to create a LIDAR version, of course.

There are two versions circulating; one by someone that rhymes with DoGuardMore and one by a team that rhymes with Das Boot. I think the latter is the rip you're talking about, but the former feels rather different. It's not laser scanned and it's much more spartan than the "Das Boot" version, so it's not much of a replacement.
 
few spare milions, that would be nice, but I would probably buy so many things first, before thinking of buying a racetrack
 
The current owner is Lawrence Stroll. You might've heard of him :).

As for what Tremblant was before it became an elitist ski resort, it was still a large tourist attraction, albeit more of a local one. I'm no skiier, but I remember, in the early 90's, that it was THE ski resort in Québec.

A friend of mine who grew up a few kilometers away tells me that they used to always go there as a kid in the 90's, but that around 98-99 it became way too luxurious and expensive, and the locals couldn't really afford it anymore.
Unfortunately, this is the story of many a cool ski town, that just end up as commercial, yuppy trodden Disneylands. It's passion that makes these places what they are, and people see $$$ can be made so they they get transformed into something else
 
Agreed. It's the best I could find. Maybe whomever did the Calabogie and Mosport tracks can take on the challenge.
They're two different people - LilSki created Calabogie and Johnr777 created Mosport. John is currently working on Road Atlanta (though he says it's still v0.1-ish and he rarely posts updates) and LilSki created so many gems, Riverside, Bridgehampton, Watkins Glen, helped in Road America and Mosport that even if he doesn't click on another command in 3DSMax ever, I'll be forever thankful for his work already.

So unlikely - it was more like wishful thinking on my part.
 
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