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Noctam said:

Me too, did you find it?

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Yes. "Multiplayer" and "offroad". Click on the arrows on the side to move through the games

Typical leave out rFactor2 72% off

I may try iRacing... Looking to see what the average cost is for a newbie.

MJQT said:

What are people's thoughts on RiMS Racing vs MotoGP vs RIDE vs IOM TT? For someone (like me) who knows little about bikes, but is very curious to learn more.

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The reality of bike games is that there are full simulators, like GP Bikes, that are well done, but are impossible to play as intended... is way easier to get my real bike and go to a real track than try to do simulation about two wheels. Because of that, I fall into the simcades.

RiMS is a very good idea, but the physics are too crude yet. Maybe RiMS2 would be the new reference in the genre.

MotoGP is the most refined of the bunch... have good content (with Moto2 and electric bikes), a decent career mode, the best rideability overall.

Ride 4, yet, is my bike game of choice because it have by far the best content (quantity and diversity) even if you ignore all the paid DLC (as I did), the rideability is very good, the livery paint tool is good enough to keep you entertained if you are into this kind of stuff, but the career mode is that lazy and uninspired Gran Turismo stuff that no none should care about in 2022.

IOM 1 is not fun at all and IOM 2 I never played because I don't support genocide fascist/communist regimes (76% of Nacon belongs to Chinese government trough BigBen Group). If you don't care about that, people say that IOM 2 is a good game. I usually don't mix politics with videogames, but some sht have gone too far and no one seems to care.

I really recommend MotoGP if you are more into career mode and official events... Ride 4 if you are more into content and livery edition and RiMS if you are into support new studios and don't really care to buy their game just for that.

Jugulador said:

I really recommend MotoGP if you are more into career mode and official events... Ride 4 if you are more into content and livery edition and RiMS if you are into support new studios and don't really care to buy their game just for that.

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RIMS is also published by Nacon with the same engine WRC and IOM used.

Going by your logic, one should not buy RIMs too along with phones, TV, cars and so on because vast majority of things we all have these days all come from that country. Hope you don't buy many games because companies from that country invested in many studios around the world.

Good luck! I am not a fan of that country but there is no need to go to that extent. Always have bad experiences whenever I travel there, and them flying into my home country airspace isn't a good impression to me at all.

Any thoughts on SRX?

Cheesenium said:

RIMS is also published by Nacon with the same engine WRC and IOM used.

Going by your logic, one should not buy RIMs too along with phones, TV, cars and so on because vast majority of things we all have these days all come from that country. Hope you don't buy many games because companies from that country invested in many studios around the world.

Good luck! I am not a fan of that country but there is no need to go to that extent. Always have bad experiences whenever I travel there, and them flying into my home country airspace isn't a good impression to me at all.

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Unfortunately, we need to make stand wherever it's possible. I can't abdicate from my phone, car and other things, but can aways choose the option that send less money into China.

I didn't knew about RiMS, but is a game that I will not buy anyway and if RiMS2 (if launched) got into Nacon's hands (even if it's as distributor) I will turn away from it.

We are not kids anymore and can put ethics over fun. I don't eat games.

I have nothing against Chinese people because they are not the criminals and really hope that someday they emancipate themselves from the real culprits. The criminals are the totalitarian, genocide and expansive Chinese communist party. Nacon just sold themselves to a branch of this mob.

PS: I have some restrains about comment politics in RaceDepartment because administration use to delete posts with this kind of content (I really understand why and am not complaining) and that is the reason that I will avoid to elaborate more about it. But this particular subject have a deep connection with racing games and that is the reason that I'm bringing it to the table. If administration or even users see it as an overreaction of mine or something out of place, I will understand and can even delete/edit my posts about it without holding any grudge... even them, it's not my conscience that will be tainted lol

BillyBobSenna said:

Is there any easy way to check what you already own compared to what is on sale? Do you just need to go into your purchase history? This is a bit tedious.

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this is not what you are asking for but it enables to compare your DLC in rfactor 2 vs what is availbale https://www.simracingprojects.cloud/app/rf2/dlc-check/

andrewaugust93 said:

Any thoughts on SRX?

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If you like short track oval racing, I've heard the racing experience on tarmac is really good – in particular, the AI is very good from what I've seen on videos and streams. Whereas the dirt experience is okay, but weird. Admittedly, this is all second-hand, though, so take it as you will. IIRC Billy Strange and Austin Ogonoski have videos on YT about the game that might be good places to start your research.

MJQT said:

What are people's thoughts on RiMS Racing vs MotoGP vs RIDE vs IOM TT? For someone (like me) who knows little about bikes, but is very curious to learn more.

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As somebody who myself doesn't know much about bikes, I'm not sure how much IOM TT is particularly educational, but I have found it very intuitive and fun. It just feels good. Milestone games (MotoGP and RIDE) just always have something... off, for me, and RIMS Racing was astonishingly detailed but maybe too much so for a beginner.

I will also note IOM:TT Ride on the Edge 2 is, bar the lack of sidecars, frankly just a flat-out improvement over the first. You don't need both but I do recommend the second.

andrewaugust93 said:

Any thoughts on SRX?

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If you played the NASCAR Heat games, it's *very* much along those lines. If you played the Tony Stewart's games, it's nigh-on identical. If neither, it's essentially more of the classic sort of pick-up-and-play simcade sort of game. However, it really shows that it's cobbled together from other games the devs made before; it's not very cohesive. Still, it's an improvement from their earlier stuff on balance. If you want an odd hodgepodge of dirt tracking and small asphalt tracks, you could do worse, but I find it gets to be pretty simple "upgrade to win" in my time with the career. (Also, the "wow, you're winner" celebration screen simply failed to load on my playthrough, which soured me a little.)

stenovitz said:

This time ordered AMS1 some 48 hours ago at standard pricings. Just with a single objective to facilitate VR racing my huge rF1 mod database. However, I've discovered VR racing standard AMS1 content is actually sim quality. Just had a couple of very fine events VR racing the ARC Camaro at Velo Cittá. That combo and VR racing my first rF1 mods->AMS1 conversions is all money worth it so far.

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Can't recommend AMS1 enough. Top notch physics, varied content, tons of mods (many from rF1) you can add to the game, solid performance on any PC, and VR through CrewChief if you like. If anyone doesn't have AMS1, pick it up on this sale! It's worth it. Even if you have AMS2, in my opinion – AMS1 is the most mature refinement of gMotor technology that's been being slowly refined, improved, and extended since Sports Car GT in 1999... something special IMO.

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Can't recommend AMS1 enough. Top notch physics, varied content, tons of mods (many from rF1) you can add to the game, solid performance on any PC, and VR through CrewChief if you like. If anyone doesn't have AMS1, pick it up on this sale! It's worth it. Even if you have AMS2, in my opinion – AMS1 is the most mature refinement of gMotor technology that's been being slowly refined, improved, and extended since Sports Car GT in 1999... something special IMO.

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Surely!

To my first impressions, I'm surprised at HOW finished simwork AMS1 seems to be!
Where I had figured it was half-finished work compared to AMS2.
I've enjoyed AMS2 for a little over 500 days by now, but AMS1 seems to be almost as good sim-wise, apart from the FFB+ feature and finetuned tyremodels.

And VR-wise it seems to be on level, in fact with higher FPS-output and a bit more allowed details compared to my lowspec RX 580 GFX.

But again Reiza surprises me, just like they did with the Copa Petrobras de Marcas and StockCar Extreme (which I also enjoyed the many quality mods). Or I shouldn't be surprised, seems they only move on to the next sim when they ensure 'job is done'.

Been a VR-owner for about a month and a half (effectively 3 weeks, having been really busy with other things), and recently I re-discovered CrewChief (after using it heavily 4-5 years ago for rF1, GTR2, StockCarExtreme, etc.) via it's VR-plugins for GTR2 (of which I got a hand on too spealong the heavy mods .)....and AMS1, as I stated in previous post, that was my sole motivation for AMS1, speaking rF1 mod content

But now I got so overwhelmed by quality standard AMS1 content that I moments before your post added the full season pass for all DLC's (which luckily for me is on sale now!).

I'll take a look at the dedicated AMS1 mods at your request
If they're just up to same standards as the mods for StockCar Extreme, I couldn't be more happy.

Though - could be interesting with a real AMS1 mod work of multi-class rF1 mod-work as e.g. (especially) CSGT WSC 1970.
Since right now I have some challenges related to conversion of my multi-class rF1 mods to AMS1. I can get the mod hierachy right using 'category'-parameter in *veh files - but opponent tag lists seems pretty bound to same 'category'-parameter, so pretty locked, if I don't want an extremely flat structure, which my tons of rF1 multi-class mods would make unmanageable in AMS1

Wilko Jones said:

I may try iRacing... Looking to see what the average cost is for a newbie.

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If you can settle for standard content you will be able to keep costs down.
Me as a "huge saver", however, I was not impressed that content should be perceived as "rented content".
E.g. a little grumpy about replacing the MX-5's H-gear version with the paddleshift version to live up to real world latest series standard.
Moreover it got really expensive to me, since I'm curious by nature speaking content and in addition went for the competitive aspect, of which is the main essence of the sim with focus on the rating and class systems, requiring quite alot of DLC's.
This approach became far too expensive for me, also due to I always have 5-8 new and older sims going on simultaneously during a typical week.

I raced it 10 years ago and again for (a way too expensive) year between 2020-21.

But iRacing is possible to race and enjoy with standard content, and indeed for the offline part. During my re-entering of the sim, my impression of the tyre model was that it is far from that bad as I read about on sim fora.

Edit: And if you're the type settling for a single or two sims and like top class competitive system, I'll strongly recommend you. But a warning: you'll get addicted

pai said:

Ride 4 is not mentioned here but it's also at 75% off. As I wanted a simple motorbikes game to chill a bit, I got that one.

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Me too!! I have Ride 2 as well as Ride 3. Ride 4 is just sensational !!! . A steal at this sale price. Highly recommended.

stenovitz said:

f you can settle for standard content you will be able to keep costs down.
Me as a "huge saver", however, I was not impressed that content should be perceived as "rented content".
E.g. a little grumpy about replacing the MX-5's H-gear version with the paddleshift version to live up to real world latest series standard.
Moreover it got really expensive to me, since I'm curious by nature speaking content and in addition went for the competitive aspect, of which is the main essence of the sim with focus on the rating and class systems, requiring quite alot of DLC's.
This approach became far too expensive for me, also due to I always have 5-8 new and older sims going on simultaneously during a typical week.

I raced it 10 years ago and again for (a way too expensive) year between 2020-21.

But iRacing is possible to race and enjoy with standard content, and indeed for the offline part. During my re-entering of the sim, my impression of the tyre model was that it is far from that bad as I read about on sim fora.

Edit: And if you're the type settling for a single or two sims and like top class competitive system, I'll strongly recommend you. But a warning: you'll get addicted

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The tracks are what's really expensive imo. I'm trying to focus on skip barber but you have to shell out like 20 dollars every week that rotates to a track you don't have. It's kinda ridiculous tbh. And my gripe is how you could buy a track and it only is in the calendar for one week.

andrewaugust93 said:

The tracks are what's really expensive imo. I'm trying to focus on skip barber but you have to shell out like 20 dollars every week that rotates to a track you don't have. It's kinda ridiculous tbh. And my gripe is how you could buy a track and it only is in the calendar for one week.

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Yes, maybe that was not clear that was implicit in my answer, but as a life long track hunter, my pocket rapidly got ripped here...

AMS1 is no longer playable as you can click nothing after some time you start the game... R.I.P.

Jach said:

AMS1 is no longer playable as you can click nothing after some time you start the game... R.I.P.

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Sure about that?
Just testing so far in relation to VR use and was thinking it was due to my mouse got out of program window (window mode activated for VR use with CrewChief VR-Plugin)

stenovitz said:

Yes, maybe that was not clear that was implicit in my answer, but as a life long track hunter, my pocket rapidly got ripped here...

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No doubt iRacing has really high quality online racing, but I can't wait for another title to come usurp the throne. Look I get it, they go out and laser-scan every pebble on the track but if I'm honest, most of us on simulators would have been happy with a well-done track even if it isn't laser scanned, as long as the car physics are good enough. If another title comes out that does what iRacing does for online racing without the ridiculous pricing model, I wouldn't mind compromising on a few things.

stenovitz said:

I'll take a look at the dedicated AMS1 mods at your request
If they're just up to same standards as the mods for StockCar Extreme, I couldn't be more happy.

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Many of the best mods by Patrick Giranthon were converted from GSCE but further updated for AMS to take advantage of AMS features. So I suspect you're in for a treat! Start with Patrick's tracks (download the individual versions, not the trackpack, for the most up-to-date version) and CART Extreme, maybe?