FIA & iRacing Announce F4 Esports Regional Tour

If you want to find the best talent, like the FIA does, you don't take someone who is living & breathing sim racing 24/7, you get the guy who just takes it for fun & after a month, posts purple sectors.

Johnr777 said:

No, you target an active audience. Not one that may or may not be using the game at all.
Assetto Corsa sales may be inflated due to numerous steam sales, humble bundles, etc, over the course of, what 8-9 years? You thinking all 28 million people who bought copies have it installed, running... ridiculous argument.

Clearing shooting yourself in the foot as well when you just admitted AC has very little of an online audience. No ranked/organized multiplayer platform... not to mention development and support stopped long ago. How would the FIA get involved with this? Please explain...

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Do you really think that those 28 million ppl, all of them or 99.9% of them are inactive audience? 160 thousand is a freaking tiny portion of 28 million. So, they just paid & forgot to even install it?
If you're not racing online, it doesn't mean you don't open the game, let alone don't have it on your PC.
Do you know how many mods are released daily for AC? Probably this week, there are as many cars & tracks released as there are in the whole of iRacing. Get inside the many mod groups on Facebook, Telegram etc & see the activity. Look at the data from here, how many mods are uploaded just here? The download numbers are staggering. Or may be those 28mln who haven't installed it just download the mods, but never open AC?
There are 26 THOUSAND mods here, can you comprehend the size of the AC modding community alone?
Kunos probably know their DAU/MAU/YAU, but I bet their DAU is wayyyy more than 160k!

How the FIA would get involved with this? Easy, just like Ferrari did.

Btw, bcs of Bitcoin, I had to read lots of literature on cults & community formation, sometimes iRacing is kind of like the Bitcoin crowd... Group think, total lack of basic logic, very loud(28mln vs 160k), refusal of reality, constant repetition of the party line & no critical thinking whatsoever - terrible gfx, but all is fine...
iRacing is nowhere near close AC, just a very loud community, just like Bitcoin vs currency...

@ivanalesi
You've made your point several times and it's pretty off topic so maybe time to give it a rest.

ivanalesi said:

If you want to find the best talent, like the FIA does, you don't take someone who is living & breathing sim racing 24/7, you get the guy who just takes it for fun & after a month, posts purple sectors.

Do you really think that those 28 million ppl, all of them or 99.9% of them are inactive audience? 160 thousand is a freaking tiny portion of 28 million. So, they just paid & forgot to even install it?
If you're not racing online, it doesn't mean you don't open the game, let alone don't have it on your PC.
Do you know how many mods are released daily for AC? Probably this week, there are as many cars & tracks released as there are in the whole of iRacing. Get inside the many mod groups on Facebook, Telegram etc & see the activity. Look at the data from here, how many mods are uploaded just here? The download numbers are staggering. Or may be those 28mln who haven't installed it just download the mods, but never open AC?
There are 26 THOUSAND mods here, can you comprehend the size of the AC modding community alone?
Kunos probably know their DAU/MAU/YAU, but I bet their DAU is wayyyy more than 160k!

How the FIA would get involved with this? Easy, just like Ferrari did.

Btw, bcs of Bitcoin, I had to read lots of literature on cults & community formation, sometimes iRacing is kind of like the Bitcoin crowd... Group think, total lack of basic logic, very loud(28mln vs 160k), refusal of reality, constant repetition of the party line & no critical thinking whatsoever - terrible gfx, but all is fine...
iRacing is nowhere near close AC, just a very loud community, just like Bitcoin vs currency...

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The Command & Conquer franchise sold 30 million copies. How many concurrent players do you think are playing C&C these days? AC’s max record for concurrent players is 17,380 (happened once), and that could be people that were just logged on and not doing anything with the app open. iRacing’s Daytona 24 hour had 4,191 teams & 16,651 unique drivers competing in the same event with 85 splits. Try get AC to do that.

Why is it, that you think the FIA would want to make a deal with a product that is not officially supported by Kunos anymore AND will soon be replaced? There are no official real world race series using Assetto Corsa as their platform to officially promote their product. There is no official 1st party way to run multiple online splits on AC. There is no official 1st party day/night transition, weather, team multiplayer, or match making system. Do you think the FIA want to use software that’s hacked together & supported by modders? Seriously? This is the most ridiculous argument I’ve ever seen.

Most ppl don't use AC online, like 99.9%. I rarely do... Chk out the stream of mods that pop out every day - if there ever was a mark of a strong community, then AC is pretty damn strong with 100s of active groups of modders. After almost 10 yrs since it's initial release, every week there are more car mods released than there are cars available on iRacing. Just think about that—how many people are involved in the modding community alone!
Also, some of these modders work for race teams that race in FIA series. Many, if not most teams below F1/LMP1 level do use AC as their choice of sim for preparing drivers & setup. These modders are making the models used by these pro drivers.
This website mostly serves such ppl - modders & players looking for mods, but as I said, they're not loud.
In fact, even though iRacing has many GT3, GT4, Dallara & Tatuus cars, pro race teams prefer to use AC or RF2.

The example you give about C&C is for a long, long series of games over few decades. AC is one game. It's beyond delusional to believe that only 10k ppl use a game that sold 28 mln copies & still has strong sales.
Also, next spring, AC2 comes out. It's fair to say it would be expected to at least follow AC's success & it would be the best candidate for a FIA supported series. But still, AC, GT or RF2 are wayyyy more deserving in every sense than a niche player like iRacing.
Also, if I'm not mistaken from my past experience on iRacing, it's predominantly US based? Not to mention that it's PC-only, unlike AC. Both facts severely diminish the potential reach of the championship.

Think about it this way, they announced a competition for online racing. 99.9% of iracers race online and you just said 99.9% of AC racers race offline.

Which is the better fit? iracing has a huge international user base, i think you are a little out of touch with some information.

metalnwood said:

Think about it this way, they announced a competition for online racing. 99.9% of iracers race online and you just said 99.9% of AC racers race offline.

Which is the better fit? iracing has a huge international user base, i think you are a little out of touch with some information.

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Common sense doesn’t apply to this argument, he’ll just copy and paste the same thing for the 20th time.

Best to just let him believe an unsupported game kept alive by mods should have been picked.

Johnr777 said:

he’ll just copy and paste the same thing for the 20th time

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Not for a while he won't.
Maybe now we can stay on topic.

Johnr777 said:

Except your claim of content going obsolete is not really accurate. Maybe you were never a member.

And I fail to see the relevance of your iracing opinion with this FIA partnership announcement?

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Yeah i was an irenter, sir, and because of that i discovered the good sims.

As i said F4 is nice for irenters, i dont know if my opinion is relevant or not..i know my opinion is not relevant for u, your opinion is not relevant to my but we dont forbid u to express it in the forum. LOL

erniedaoage said:

So you have ACC, ams2 and rf2 through steam right? If your steam account gets banned, or steam itself closes its doors all your purchased stuff is not available to you anymore and your owned content is lost forever. Where exactly is the difference apart the subscription based model of iracing?

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Its so easy... in that difficult to happen case (cuz its easier that iracing closes before steam, you know) i would not have been paying month to month till that fatal day. Very different.