[UPDATED] Questionable tactics exposed after iRacing's Daytona 24h

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As all the noise following rFactor 2 technical issues during the Virtual Le Mans race was starting to settle down, it's the sporting side of things that fuels yet another sim racing esports controversy after iRacing's edition of the Daytona 24h, with Williams Esports being at the heart of it all.

Everything started after qualifying. Pole position lap in the top class was performed by Alxander Spetz in the #1 LMDh car by driving on the apron instead of staying on the banked part of the oval. The rules clearly stated the apron was off limits, and cones were present at the beginning of the turns to further deter cars to take that line, but unusually, the software didn't trigger an off-track strike for using those bits of tarmac. Organizers explained the detection was manually removed to encourage teams suffering car damage to use the apron to crawl back to the pits without crowding the racing line unnecessarily.

Still, despite the driver having suffered a ban from the service, the team still kept, their pole position, and overall race result, although Williams purposefully switched to the face cam view for the whole lap on their own livestream. iRacing stated that the results are definitive once the race is finished, which hasn't been taken well by other competitors and the community, prompting complaints about the lack of live stewarding.

But the worst was yet to come, as sim racing streamer Pablo Araujo released a video exposing even more disturbing behavior from the team, this time in GT3.


As evidenced by replay footage, Williams Esports used a car that was out of contention after sustaining damage to help its other entry in the class. Car #2 purposefully waited in the pits and in the pit exit road to provide slipstream to its sister #55 car - which while questionable, isn't currently actively prohibited by the regulations - but more crucially, actively tempered with other competitors by defending position despite being several laps down. At some point, car #2 even pushed car #034, which was in the leader's lap, into a crash, effectively ending that team's race.

Tweets from Seb Hawkins, the esports team manager, and Jenson Button, Williams ambassador, tried to justify the LMDh car's tactics in qualifying, but haven't communicated yet on the GT side of things, as people are now calling for action from the organizers side.


UPDATE: Williams Esports has released the following statement on the 27th of January to address the described incidents.

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Um, no? Coming in 1st is winning regardless of how you do it....

That is a bit silly really isn't it?

If a game only tracks the amount of times your car crosses the finish line you really only need to drive back and forth across the line to finish before the others, but, that is not winning, to win you need to compete, and unless you face the same hurdles and challenges as others then you're not competing therefore you're not the winner.
You could I suppose take a picture of the results and show your mum how special you are, but you would know the truth, and I don't doubt that it would hurt knowing that's what you needed to do to get the highest result
 
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Guys, whether you agree with an opinion or not there's no need to insult a fellow member. He's entitled to his view and it's fair to say that there's some truth in it, you only need to read a few sports or other biographies to realise that.
So let's stay polite please.
So I am not entitled to my view? I didn't insult anyone, just stated my opinion. Also I have read plenty of sports bios and yes some have cheaters, but to act like that is how it works is ridiculous. I have a niece that won 3 state championships in HS basketball. She did it though hard work and dedication to her craft. She also got $220,000 of collage, tuition free. Now she is on a successful path of coaching. She is a winner and didn't cheat to make it so! This assumption that, oh hum, cheating is just a thing that you need to do to win. Is total BS and again pathetic.
 
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So I am not entitled to my view
I don't seem to remember mentioning you particularly or in any way preventing you from putting your pov.
Nor did I say that everyone cheats just that there are some that do and to deny that would be wrong.
Also if you check my previous post in the discussion you'll see my views on cheating correspond with your own.
 
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Guys, whether you agree with an opinion or not there's no need to insult a fellow member. He's entitled to his view and it's fair to say that there's some truth in it, you only need to read a few sports or other biographies to realise that.
So let's stay polite please.
There's a difference in being aware something is going on, and defending or promoting it.

The guys deserves some push back on his nonsense.

You would be better off acknowledging there is some expectation of fair play in the community, rather then trying to shut it down because cheater boy has feelings.

Poor form on multiple levels.
 
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You would be better off acknowledging there is some expectation of fair play in the community, rather then trying to shut it down because cheater boy has feelings.
I think almost the entire thread is a tribute to exactly what our community expects and how we view people who cheat.
You seem to be equating my asking for politeness in how we treat a fellow member as some sort of agreement with his view.
 
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It must have been the bit where you said he has a point so stop picking on him...

I must have misconstrued that to mean you think he has a point and we should stop picking on him.
 
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So I am not entitled to my view? I didn't insult anyone, just stated my opinion.
And yet your entire post where you claim to express an opinion was an insult against me. This has been reported.
The guys deserves some push back on his nonsense.

You would be better off acknowledging there is some expectation of fair play in the community, rather then trying to shut it down because cheater boy has feelings.
It must have been the bit where you said he has a point so stop picking on him...

I must have misconstrued that to mean you think he has a point and we should stop picking on him.
And you admitted to going out of your way to start drama with me so both of your posts have also been reported.

Once again, RD and RD alone grandstands over how trying to win a sporting contest makes you an immoral human being when I didn't see Spetz cause physical or mental harm to anyone else in doing what he did. Granted, what the #2 car did in GT3 completely crossed the line, because they went beyond assisting their own team and instead unfairly binned another teams chances at the win. But you're trying to argue that the two offences are on the same level of cheating when they clearly aren't, and one isn't even cheating if the game allowed him to do it.

Or are you going to suggest that Ross Chastain should've gotten the gullotine for doing essentially the same thing in real life?
 
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Yeah, didn't read any of that.Ive seen enough to know whatever tripe you write has no merit.

Cheating bad.Simple.
 
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I'll just remind everyone of one of our ToS Board Rules.
A robust discussion is one thing but....
"General rules:
Mutual respect between the people using the RaceDepartment.com website(s) and forums. This means you may not personally attack other forum users. malicious behaviour and bullying will not be tolerated. If there is a problem report it to the staff."
 
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It's a team sport and if there's a sacrificial lamb for the team to benefit then the TEAM should be punished, get the team in order and face the music, issuing an acknowledgment that things weren't quite right and saying "But hell yeah, well take the win however it comes" isn't good practice.
For now though, if the winners were able to publicly distance themselves from what went on then they should, and 'Williams' should be rightly embarrassed that the situation wasn't dealt with internally as soon as the 'fun & games' started, as quite honestly I cant see that they weren't monitoring these acts and couldn't see what was going on at the time.
 
Given the final paragraph of the statement offered up by Williams eSports, I wonder how strongly they will push to have themselves held accountable for - what seems to my eye to be - outright disregard for the rules...

Also... THAT tweet by Jenson Button? Disappointing, really.
Would he be so quick to make such a statement had he been on the receiving end of that debacle?
 

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