2023 Formula One Italian Grand Prix

Zolazem · Sep 3, 2023

5 seconds penalty for causing a collision should be replaced bij a stop and go penalty in the next lap after the incident. A big shame that this clown finished at P6 leaving Piastri with bare hands.

THK84 · Sep 3, 2023

Zolazem said:
5 seconds penalty for causing a collision should be replaced bij a stop and go penalty in the next lap after the incident. A big shame that this clown finished at P6 leaving Piastri with bare hands.

We used to have simple drive through penalties. Stop & go would be too harsh though. Apply within the ongoing race if possible.

muzikant · Sep 3, 2023

Zolazem said:
5 seconds penalty for causing a collision should be replaced bij a stop and go penalty in the next lap after the incident. A big shame that this clown finished at P6 leaving Piastri with bare hands.

he did it at Silverstone too... and then won the race. These kinds of actions may weigh more heavily on the penalties. Piastri was robbed

tr1v1um · Sep 3, 2023

THK84 said:
We used to have simple drive through penalties. Stop & go would be too harsh though. Apply within the ongoing race if possible.

Situations like these just show that the penalties for race damaging collisions are are too weak up to the point where it could be abused by faster drivers. Where is the justice in basicly ending ones race by forcing him to atleast get into the pitlane while the driver causing that get's 5 seconds. Stop and go would be the right meassurement to atleast somewhat even out the consequences and maybe set a signal for drivers to race more cleanly. Sounds harsh? Well, then maybe learn how to not make contact while overtaking. What Hamilton showcased in that situation was borderline laughable, a complete noob mistake not worthy of a 7 time world champion.

Kingkoenig · Sep 3, 2023

tr1v1um said:
Funny enough, Dixon is one of the drivers that get's rarely mentioned in the international media, but you don't become a six time champion in a much more competetive spec series while being a beast on ovals, road courses and street courses alike and a three time Daytona 24 winner while being a douche.

I wish Dixon had made it to F1 at some point. He's a phenomenal talent who has more than enough talent to become a F1 champion. Everybody talks about Alonso's longevity, but Dixon is now 43 and he's kicking the butts of much younger drivers on a regular basis. Sadly, Indycar is very much a regional series today, compared to its best years when it raced in Australia, Japan and Europe, so it's very hard for its drivers to gain international exposure.

PickABetterUsername01 · Sep 3, 2023

I'm getting real tired of hamilton crashing into other people while NOTHING happens to him most of the time, and it's been always like this.

Again, a driver had his race completely RUINED and he gets away with it, how can someone be this lucky? It's like hamilton steals luck, he has to ruin someone else's race in order to be lucky.

Richard Wilks · Sep 3, 2023

PickABetterUsername01 said:
I'm getting real tired of hamilton crashing into other people while NOTHING happens to him most of the time, and it's been always like this.

Again, a driver had his race completely RUINED and he gets away with it, how can someone be this lucky? It's like hamilton steals luck, he has to ruin someone else's race in order to be lucky.

He is been doing that all his career. He has more collisions with other people than probably Senna, Schumacher and Max all combined...

davehenrie · Sep 3, 2023

As Fezik the Scillian said in 'The Princess Bride' : Never go outside of Hamilton when points are on the line......

markg88 · Sep 3, 2023

PickABetterUsername01 said:
Damn what a race.

Max as always unstoppable, hamilton as always can't race other cars without contact and obviously lucky, breaks the other car while nothing happens to him.

Yes, I was really p**sed with him for that, and as usual, he had that damn luck of his not to have a gravel trap to run into, but a nice tarmac road back to track. I don't know any driver, certainly not a top driver, who has as many contacts with other cars when contesting a corner. This and his narcissism, plus other things (no, not racial! ), are why I really don't like him.

Pete Conway · Sep 3, 2023

I've just seen a picture of Lewis apologising to Oscar after the race... OK, but it's in Parc Ferme, and Lewis is Holding onto the McLaren... touching an opponents car in Parc Ferme conditions is not allowed... Ask Max, he was fined 50k

BillyBobSenna · Sep 3, 2023

IMHO, that was a very entertaining race. Helped that we had low attrition. Max has learned to be patient at the start knowing he will easily pass everyone once the race gets going.

davehenrie · Sep 3, 2023

BillyBobSenna said:
IMHO, that was a very entertaining race. Helped that we had low attrition. Max has learned to be patient at the start knowing he will easily pass everyone once the race gets going.

still another reason to junk the stooooopid DRS and take up the Push to Pass system in some form. This allows attacks and defense ANYWHERE on the track, not just a sharp corner at the end of a straight.

Kingkoenig · Sep 3, 2023

davehenrie said:
still another reason to junk the stooooopid DRS and take up the Push to Pass system in some form. This allows attacks and defense ANYWHERE on the track, not just a sharp corner at the end of a straight.

I wish I could like this comment 1000 times...

Every year, Monza is the proof that DRS is a bad concept. PTP introduces an element of strategy that DRS doesn't have: each driver has 200 seconds per race. Use that extra power whenever you want, but be sure to use it at the right time.

Kimirai · Sep 3, 2023

My goodness, what a race, wonderful!! at least we had a real fight, and a tough one, for all the podium positions, and not only. Great.

Mekonrider · Sep 3, 2023

The Ferrari scrap was entertaining. Had quite enough heart in mouth stuff earlier in the day with the horrendous MotoGP crash. Motorsport certainly is dangerous.

davehenrie · Sep 3, 2023

Mekonrider said:
The Ferrari scrap was entertaining. Had quite enough heart in mouth stuff earlier in the day with the horrendous MotoGP crash. Motorsport certainly is dangerous.

I think Sainz needs to review LeClerc's first season with Ferrari. Several times Charles could have served the team by not pressuring Vettel, yet they seemed to come together over and over.
Carlos needs to understand that LC, at least on track, is not his friend.

Durge Driven · Sep 3, 2023

Another well done from me Liam

AngryWolfCorey · Sep 4, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
I wish Dixon had made it to F1 at some point. He's a phenomenal talent who has more than enough talent to become a F1 champion. Everybody talks about Alonso's longevity, but Dixon is now 43 and he's kicking the butts of much younger drivers on a regular basis. Sadly, Indycar is very much a regional series today, compared to its best years when it raced in Australia, Japan and Europe, so it's very hard for its drivers to gain international exposure.

With the way Dixon can work fuel & tire saving drives it definitely would've been interesting to see what he could've done in F1.

Turk · Sep 4, 2023

Don't know what to think of Leclerc after that race. He was clearly holding station letting Sainz do all the work of holding back the red bulls. It looks like Leclerc decided to let Sainz damage his tyres so he'd be easier to overtake when the red bulls got by, rather than put the red bulls under pressure so that Sainz could build a bit of a gap.

markg88 · Sep 4, 2023

Turk said:
Don't know what to think of Leclerc after that race. He was clearly holding station letting Sainz do all the work of holding back the red bulls. It looks like Leclerc decided to let Sainz damage his tyres so he'd be easier to overtake when the red bulls got by, rather than put the red bulls under pressure so that Sainz could build a bit of a gap.

I reckon the desire by both Ferrari drivers to get on the podium was what made them race so hard. Fine by me, I enjoyed it but not sure if the team boss was quite so happy about it privately.

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