When will Ferrari get rid of Massa?

Hampus Andersson · May 21, 2012

nevermind....

stbreaker · May 22, 2012

http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2012/5/13360.html

You know he's in trouble when you see it on the official F1 site. As we all know, they tend to stay away from addressing any rumors and/or controversy.

the_ozz_man · May 23, 2012

Not Soon Enough! what a waste of a top drive If only Kubica did not have that rally crash

Hampus Andersson · May 23, 2012

They might keep Massa until 2013 and monitor Kubica´s recovery.
I think he would be the best man for the job.

Daniel Plaikner · May 25, 2012

Nothing will happen until the the season finishes

Xosé Estrada · May 25, 2012

Kubica will never drive an F1 again I fear.

Hampus Andersson · May 26, 2012

Based on?

Randy Wagner · May 26, 2012

Xosé Estrada said:
Kubica will never drive an F1 again I fear.

Sadly here in the US we are being told this is true and the accident was far worse then realized.Kinda makes you realize why Massa was never the same after his incident. F1 is a whole nother level of racing imo and to be missing a step is well what we call grid fillers and Ferrari sure as hell don't need a damn grid filler.

I do so respect what Massa HAS done in the past but racing is racing and know it like I do gotta say he needs to either go spend his money or move to the garage b4 it get's worse. In a few more races with his current race set something will be said since it's already started.

Kimi stay away from the dirt please F1 missed you I think I read where he was already told NO lol gotta love a true racer.

Ho3n3r · May 26, 2012

Randy Wagner said:
Sadly here in the US we are being told this is true and the accident was far worse then realized.Kinda makes you realize why Massa was never the same after his incident. F1 is a whole nother level of racing imo and to be missing a step is well what we call grid fillers and Ferrari sure as hell don't need a damn grid filler.

I do so respect what Massa HAS done in the past but racing is racing and know it like I do gotta say he needs to either go spend his money or move to the garage b4 it get's worse. In a few more races with his current race set something will be said since it's already started.

Kimi stay away from the dirt please F1 missed you I think I read where he was already told NO lol gotta love a true racer.

Well Massa is looking good this weekend. I really hope it's a turning point for him.

Xosé Estrada · May 26, 2012

Hampus Andersson said:
Based on?

Based on the continuos delays in his recovering.

Usually in every injury or disease the 90% of the recovery happens in the first year, after that period you can improve but not that much.

Kubica, wasn't able to even drive a car after more than one year, all we see are unclear images that play with confusion.

Hampus Andersson · May 26, 2012

Xosé Estrada said:
Based on the continuos delays in his recovering.

Usually in every injury or disease the 90% of the recovery happens in the first year, after that period you can improve but not that much.

Kubica, wasn't able to even drive a car after more than one year, all we see are unclear images that play with confusion.

we have seen him do karting. Something that takes a seriously hard toll on your arms and hands.
Much more different then power steering in an F1 car.

Xosé Estrada · May 26, 2012

Hampus Andersson said:
we have seen him do karting. Something that takes a seriously hard toll on your arms and hands.
Much more different then power steering in an F1 car.

Did we?

We never seen a video with Kubica clearly driving anything, just implying it.

Hampus Andersson · May 26, 2012

Xosé Estrada said:
Did we?

We never seen a video with Kubica clearly driving anything, just implying it.

So you think he sat down with racing gear and helmet in the go kart right next to the track, took a picture, then got out of it?

Yea that makes sense. NOT.

Xosé Estrada · May 26, 2012

Hampus Andersson said:
So you think he sat down with racing gear and helmet in the go kart right next to the track, took a picture, then got out of it?

Yea that makes sense. NOT.

Totaly makes sense if you are a driver's marketing department and you want to keep media talking about him and still linking him to F1.

It's called protect investment and try to win time.

What it makes no sense is to release pics of him close to the car, into a stopped car, kissing the car, hugging the car, fixing the car but not unequivocally driving the car, specially if you are able to make a video where he shows he is recovered and he can drive fast and clear all doubts about his future.

But they can't, because he can't do it.

Hampus Andersson · May 27, 2012

But if the game is up and he knows it then he´s doing that for nothing.

Again, it makes no sense Xose.

Alberto Casado · May 27, 2012

Hampus Andersson said:
So you think he sat down with racing gear and helmet in the go kart right next to the track, took a picture, then got out of it?

Yea that makes sense. NOT.

He could also drive it. I can drive a kart. A tiny girl I know can, too. And yet it does not make us nowhere near F1 material.

Marketing dictates that he should show as best as he can. Psicology of recovery also recommends to have some goal (get back to racing). But those are marketing and (healthy) self-motivation. Right now he has not shown that he can drive a kart fast (while thousands of skinny teenagers can), or make some laps in a F1 (Valentino Rossi can, Vladimir Putin can!). So at this moment, over a year from the accident Kubica is not even at the level of a standard/moderately skilled person.

Xosé Estrada · May 27, 2012

Hampus Andersson said:
But if the game is up and he knows it then he´s doing that for nothing.

Again, it makes no sense Xose.

It doesn't make it for you... but you have a very naive perspective here.

He will obviously try to keep his smaller chance, even if its a 1%, and win as much time as possible. When he's sure that the game is up, he will tell it, but there have to be some chances yet.

But as I say, I fear things are not going ok, that's obvious considering the kind of media they are releasing.