Thanks Stigs. You're probably right with attaching directly to pedals. Seems the most straight forward and 'direct' method. I guess the only question I would need to answer is whether 'exciters' would be better than another 2no. TT25-8's. Hopefully I'm using the correct terminology with 'exciters' - still learning and reading up on this! Just seen another thread from Mr Latte on new hardware and the HPRs. Will read up on that a bit more...
Good shout. I may invest in a couple of additional TT25-8's to experiment with this. Having said that, I like the idea of having the pucks for higher frequencies and something 'beefier' for lower frequencies - gear change clunk, etc.
I cant fully conclude yet as I still have to do more tests with several of the popular budget options (PUC / BST 1 / RECKHORN) but based on effects I have been testing and creating with the BDS exciters.
Firstly by quite a margin the BDS is the best exciter. You would be crazy not to buy at least one to compare to the TT25-8. The thread I have been doing highlights reasons why that is. However one point that also needs highlighted, the BDS is also rated to support up to 80W but some care needed here....
BDS
Point to note, very few amps use RMS with wattage levels they advertise. We generally find with many budget amps, the rated power advertised, is actually more like 1/2 in RMS. Anyone uising a PUC (TT25) 20W in pedals wont get anything like the potential the BDS offers, not in frequency range, power or detailing.
This BDS unit is quite unique and wipes the floor with other budget units regards being able to feel sensations below 20Hz. So because of that, it opens up a whole new level of potential in effects, particularly for a direct to body contact type installation. So simply let me say that most other units do not offer the felt sensations this unit brings. It really is in my opinion the best budget unit to buy at this time for direct to body type installations...
What I would tell you now, is that a thread will be coming and complete with effects I have created specifically for this unit. As well as an overview on each effect with info about how/why or what are good effects to group together and effects operations.
For ABS or pedal effects the BDS exciter is better than the HPR units. Again this is based on current testing and you will see the extent I am going to, in also buying various amps with different voltages to continue more tests for the HPR units. Even with those I do not believe the HPR is going to be as good but do believe it might work well if partnered with a BDS unit.
To date the best combo I have felt is the BDS for the foot rest area, paired with MQB1 on each pedal. Regards tactile, I guess that I perhaps do things different, nor follow others but base things on my own curiosity / creativity / testing...
This is an example of not relying on the usual approach or using only a single unit for pedal based effects. Each unit brings certain sensations but combined they offer something that neither one brings. With an additional unit it also lets us apply more effects and I have spent quite a bit of time working with the stereo based effects to bring sensations for pedals with this approach that goes further in immersion possibilities but at a budget-mid price point.
Personal note regards isolation.
Decoupling with isolators helps maintain the energy for the seat/pedals.
Even cheap options are decent for improving over having no isolation.
Yet do not be fooled in thinking that this means it prevents any energy transferring into other elements below.
I have boxes of various options.....
NONE of these options illustrated from soft-hard that I have tested in various builds, including those stacked/huge industrial solutions (solar panel installations) will prevent the vibes from passing through.
Spring based solutions can be better for that or as I like to do is use a combination of both....
