Race #09, Italy: Post-Race Discussion

[Morgan Morand]

Our loser and arrohero Holzmann already leaked the twister/ghost speed setup to his buddy DUNKEL, awesome name by the way, big fan. Not bad to last a race without leaking in his new team. Advise to ghost speed: he will keep leaking like Morand while being in GS

Are you seriously mad ??? i have never leaked any setup from ATR/Ghostpeed/Netrex to anybody. I got several asking in my emailbox to send those but i didn't leak anything, not even a controller.ini
We had a setup leak indeed in Hungary 2012 from one of my setup a WT driver outside of GS shared in FSR server.

Another point. Thanks in Europe, we still are some freedom of speech : you can disagree to a comment from a commentator who can need advices. But it doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful again and again. Even with me, but your insult becomes usual and repetitive that the emotional effect into me is gone but not from another guys here
Just if you continue, in France, some restrictive law about internet moral harassment has been voted and are effective now. I have your email, your IP.
The case of Mundy is worse than mine : Yes he made some analysis mistakes in Italy broadcast ( where i let pass Kalamees for the win ) but you aren't allowed to be a crusader. IF he wants some helps he can tell me what to do.
You must have been persecuted in your childhood to act like this. You are intelligent but turn this into the benefict of humanity instead of raging, insulting everyone who are not in the way of your "common sense"

Enough is enough. Honestly said

Here is the law :

In French law, at first, the only forms of harassment concerned in the Penal Code were harassment by a spouse, sexual harassment, and moral harassment. On the 16th of December 2013, the French National Assembly adopted an amendment to article 222-33-2-1 of the French Penal Code. The new article 222-33-2-2 now provides that the legal consequences of harassing an individual by repetitive behaviour or words leading to impacts on the physical or mental health of the victim amount to one year prison sentence and 15,000 euros fine. This sanction is doubled when such an act has been committed on the person of a minor or when it has been committed by the use of a means of online communication. If both of these circumstances occur simultaneously, the sanction would amount to a three-year prison sentence and a 45,000 euros fine.

 

[Carlos Martín]

Qualy: Horrible, the worst laps I did. P9

Race: Race started better than expected, taking 4 positions at the race start. The objective was a top 7 spot, after 1 turn we were fifth so I was very surprised and pleaseant with the spot already.

During the first stint the car felt very weird, car was understeering a lot, the front tires were burning (really weird on me because I always used to destroy the rear tires), so I slowed down my pace about 4/5 tenths. I knew that overtaking during the first stint was impossible so slowing down and forcing the rest following you very close was a good idea as they would run of tires sooner (Patrick, clear example).

I decided to pit earlier than scheduled, to cover Jernej otherwise I would have lost the position. In a stupid attempt to win time in the box, I miss my box, I stall the engine and I lose 5-6 seconds.

When I rejoin the track I was 1 sec behind Bono, you can't imagine how angry I was for that mistake. I tried to pass Bono in all ways posible but unfortunatly I couldn't manage to do any attempt.

I saw Bono pitting pretty early so I decided to do the same, just 3 laps later, with about 23 laps to go. I knew I was going to be very slow but I had faith to hold anyone on my rear.

Kalamees passed me really easy, Martin stucked on my back, until we had an unfortunate contact in T2, which destroys his car and mines. My front wing and my suspension were damaged but whats worse was that my front left tire went into 0% of wear. I had to do 15 laps with a total broken car, really hard to control.

I had one moment in Ascari which forced me to jump it, next lap I had similar in the la Roggia, I had to jump chicane for avoiding those stupid anticuts, guess what? Stop and go.

Not happy with the race done, either with the points, 0 again..

 

[Ondrej Kuncman]

Are you seriously mad ??? i have never leaked any setup from ATR/Ghostpeed/Netrex to anybody. I got several asking in my emailbox to send those but i didn't leak anything, not even a controller.ini
We had a setup leak indeed in Hungary 2012 from one of my setup a WT driver outside of GS shared in FSR server.

Another point. Thanks in Europe, we still are some freedom of speech : you can disagree to a comment from a commentator who can need advices. But it doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful again and again. Even with me, but your insult becomes usual and repetitive that the emotional effect into me is gone but not from another guys here
Just if you continue, in France, some restrictive law about internet moral harassment has been voted and are effective now. I have your email, your IP.
The case of Mundy is worse than mine : Yes he made some analysis mistakes in Italy broadcast ( where i let pass Kalamees for the win ) but you aren't allowed to be a crusader. IF he wants some helps he can tell me what to do.
You must have been persecuted in your childhood to act like this. You are intelligent but turn this into the benefict of humanity instead of raging, insulting everyone who are not in the way of your "common sense"

Enough is enough. Honestly said

Here is the law :

I have evidence that you have shared stuff and not only in the past but this year as well. Don't go there.

Don't contradict yourself, the freedom of speech has been vastly restricted to official and mainstream ideologies. If you go against these, there is no freedom left, as you are saying with that ridiculous French law. There has been a similar law in UK, fortunately removed last year I believe. Do you enjoy living in this totalitarian socialistic insanity that is called France (EU)?

Based on that ridiculousness you have described, most of the population would end up in prison Can't wait for that. As a famous british comedian once said: Everyone has right to believe in anything they want. And everyone else has right to find it ****ing ridiculous.

I have every right to comment on your fails, just as I give u credit when you don't fail. If you read carefully you would know that. I have every right to say whatever I want about commentators and say what I want about their religion. They can go bash me for being atheist too. In fact I would love it. It is all comedy, if they can't get over that then they have issues and as holzmann said they belong to a mental facility. It is harsh, it is offensive, but it is also truthful. They don't have to like it. They don't have to read it. But who enjoys living in this politically correct, culturally marxistic society where every tiny thing is considered offensive? Come on people wake up. The clinically offended such as yourself or some brits are the only people hating on it. Rest loves it, literally. But again, they are victims of political correctness so they can express it only personally and not on the forum.

 

[Morgan Morand]

I have evidence that you have shared stuff and not only in the past but this year as well. Don't go there.

You can post your evidences here. I have nothing to hide because i did nothing wrong.

 

[Georg Winter]

Ondrej...
your freedom ends where mine begins... Think about it. Because THIS is the truth and nothing than the truth...

"I have every right to comment on your fails, just as I give u credit when you don't fail"
You have the right, but you dont have the right to be insulting. You ever heard about human rights? I dont think so.

 

[Ondrej Kuncman]

Human rightism is one of the most dangerous ideologies nowadays. Please don't get me started on that. And this has nothing to do with it.

 

[Georg Winter]

Human rightism is one of the most dangerous ideologies nowadays. Please don't get me started on that. And this has nothing to do with it.

That is your opinion and ONLY YOUR opinion. In which way you`re better? You try to force people thinking the same bullshit like you... Nice populism

 

[Ondrej Kuncman]

Human rightism is one of the most dangerous ideologies nowadays. Please don't get me started on that. And this has nothing to do with it.

To Morand: Let's start with this: Care to comment on giving setup to Jaakkola earlier this season?

 

[Ondrej Kuncman]

That is your opinion and ONLY YOUR opinion. In which way you`re better? You try to force people thinking the same bullshit like you... Nice populism

To quote one of the greatest european politicians and economists, Vaclav Klaus:

Already in the past, I feared the gradual shifting away from civil rights to human rights, which has been taking place for quite some time. I feared the ideology of human-rightism, but did not anticipate the consequences of this doctrine. Human-rightism is an ideology that has nothing in common with practical issues of the individual freedom and of free political discourse. It is about entitlements. Classical liberals and libertarians do not emphasize enough that the rights interpreted in this way are against freedom and the rational functioning of society.

Human rights are in fact a revolutionary denial of civil rights. They do not need any citizenship. That is also why human-rightism calls for the destruction of the sovereignty of individual countries, particularly in today’s Europe. Positive human rights also contributed heavily to the present era of political correctness with all its destructive force.

 

[Morgan Morand]

To Morand: Let's start with this: Care to comment on giving setup to Jaakkola earlier this season?

Yeah i shared to him the sunday of the race. I asked Netrex guys before i send him that setup, which isn't a leak.
So what's next ?

 

[Georg Winter]

To quote one of the greatest european politicians and economists, Vaclav Klaus:

Already in the past, I feared the gradual shifting away from civil rights to human rights, which has been taking place for quite some time. I feared the ideology of human-rightism, but did not anticipate the consequences of this doctrine. Human-rightism is an ideology that has nothing in common with practical issues of the individual freedom and of free political discourse. It is about entitlements. Classical liberals and libertarians do not emphasize enough that the rights interpreted in this way are against freedom and the rational functioning of society.

Human rights are in fact a revolutionary denial of civil rights. They do not need any citizenship. That is also why human-rightism calls for the destruction of the sovereignty of individual countries, particularly in today’s Europe. Positive human rights also contributed heavily to the present era of political correctness with all its destructive force.

And again, this is only your opinion. And its only your opinion that he is one of the greatest.

 

[Ondrej Kuncman]

Yeah i shared to him the sunday of the race. I asked Netrex guys before i send him that setup, which isn't a leak.
So what's next ?

That sort of is a leak since he leaked the setup further I am not home to dig through the files, so I will raise more questions later if I have time

 

[Rando Tamm]

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[Ho3n3r]

To quote one of the greatest european politicians and economists, Vaclav Klaus:

To say someone is one of the greatest politicians, is like saying AIDS is one of the greatest STD's. No reason to read further.

 

[Adrian Rodriguez]

Site in possible mythical thread.

(For sale, PM)

 

[Morgan Morand]

That sort of is a leak since he leaked the setup further I am not home to dig through the files, so I will raise more questions later if I have time

Well it's the netrex team who leaked with that argument.

 

[Carlos Martín]

That sort of is a leak since he leaked the setup further I am not home to dig through the files, so I will raise more questions later if I have time

I doubt Jaakola leaked the set, if its the case it means that even other teams having our sets, can't beat us...

Thanks for confirming the rest of the world that NetRex is competitive thanks to the quality of the drivers not to the car settings.

This couldn't be any better!

 

[Ondrej Kuncman]

I doubt Jaakola leaked the set, if its the case it means that even other teams having our sets, can't beat us...

Thanks for confirming the rest of the world that NetRex is competitive thanks to the quality of the drivers not to the car settings.

This couldn't be any better!

Can't trust finns. I found that out the hard way too. What do you mean by ''beat us''. Only Morand is winning, he would win in every other team. I haven't seen any other netrex driver perform this year.

The way I see it:
2014 setups ranking:
1) Twister
2) Netrex / Precision

Obviously If I was involved it would be a bit different. In any case you don't have any magical setups. No need to get too excited.

 

[Georg Winter]

Can't trust finns.

Can`t trust czechs named ondrej

 

[David Greco]

I give my setups to my teammates all the time, 90% of the times they say it is undriveable uhauhauhauhauha