gauging interest in 'the not normal club'

Andrew Evans · Apr 30, 2009

ay oop... let me start by saying this has absolutely nothing to do with serious racing... so stop reading now if that's a turn off...

after rF got its backwards-racing thing on the other month, i figured i'd work on my long standing desire to port a couple of fun formats from my pgr2omgconsoleracer days... (didn't think there was really a place for this kinda thing before then)

not sure of the exact structure yet, but the test evening would include trying out the following three event types:

cat & mouse

peoples are split into/organize themselves into teams of 4 drivers... one person is the mouse (mini) the other three are cats (ccgt) in colour coded skins - eg. red team, green team etc...

take to the nords... mice are given a head start, ~45 secs, then the cats set off... first mouse to cross the finish is the winner... cats objective is to do everything possible to ensure their mouse wins... eg. taking out opposing teams mouse, cats... pushing their mouse along the straights... defending their mouse... etc... obviously damage is turned off...

last man standing

very short races - ~3 laps of something small (magny club etc)... everyone starts out in the same car (mini)... at the end of each race the last person is "eliminated"... this means, for the next race they change to something fast and heavy (ccgt)... eliminated peoples then aim to disrupt the race for the remaining drivers... field reduces until there's only 3 people left in a mini (the rest being in ccgt)... last race decides the finishing positions for that event... again, damage off...

destruction derby

similar vein to the stuff that happened in rF... except there's no race or rules to be bothering about... literally a fight to the death, until 1 person remains... am probably gonna knock up some quick/dirty/basic figure 8 track - called Boodschappies Arena :becky: - which can be developed if the format is worth repeating...

so, those are the basic ideas i've been thinking about... i'd like to try them before i do much else - and they'll probably evolve as/if we test them...

couple of other points:

am thinking this would/should support up to 16 participants...

teamspeak usage is mandatory - the whole idea is its a social experience (much like cold laps)... plus, info is easily and quickly conveyed via ts - and am guessing things will need to be explained...

cars aren't fixed on those above... but may well be those for the test...

am gonna stick a poll on here to find out if it's worth setting up (doing any more work on)... bear in mind it's public, so i can see who's voted... voting yes is as good as signing up - so don't do it unless you mean it...

uuuuh, that's about it... shout up if you've any comments etc... :tits:

Dustin Barton · May 31, 2009

Ryan Callan said:
That is pretty much cat and mouse

Yeah...but none of that head start crap

Andrew Evans · May 31, 2009

well, about 7 of us had a play around with the latest build on friday night and i can tell ya that an all out destruction derby is pretty boring after 2 minutes... will make modifications to try it as a dd race next time... but if that's no fun either then the dd format doesn't have much of a future... (and so neither does the track)

Ryan Callan · May 31, 2009

That is why Ramon had rules for his rF banger night. There always has to be boundaries else something is pointless. It should be a race where anything goes....

Dustin Barton · May 31, 2009

Andrew Evans said:
well, about 7 of us had a play around with the latest build on friday night and i can tell ya that an all out destruction derby is pretty boring after 2 minutes... will make modifications to try it as a dd race next time... but if that's no fun either then the dd format doesn't have much of a future... (and so neither does the track)

Have you thought about splitting the track at the crossing and going around just one of the ovals? Judging from the size, one oval should make for more fun due to the smaller size.

What is the actual size of the track?

Andrew Evans · May 31, 2009

Dustin Barton said:
What is the actual size of the track?

lap is 1km :nod:

Dustin Barton · May 31, 2009

Andrew Evans said:
lap is 1km :nod:

So yeah, lets cut the track in half

The transition from banking in the turns to the flat of the cross over would be perfect if we cut the track in half...just a suggestion. By the way, I really want this track...

EDIT: I totally had the conversion in my head wrong. 1km is about .62 miles...might be a bit too small with 24 cars but still worth a look.

Kennett Ylitalo · May 31, 2009

Race is better. Everything is allowed except no reverse driving and no hitting outside the track. Sprint races of course.. Damage to 50%..

Oh and while i haven't seen the latest version of the track, it might need a walled section..

Andrew Evans · May 31, 2009

yea, the layout and length are sound... it was just no fun once there were two or three cars limping around not able to take each other out....

hopefully with a race thrown in (still no rules) it'll be cool... we'll see on friday... i need to go make a pit lane someplace....

David Buxton · May 31, 2009

Andrew Evans said:
i need to go make a pit lane someplace....

At the bottom of the black hole :lol:

Dustin Barton · May 31, 2009

David Buxton said:
At the bottom of the black hole :lol:

+1 How awesome would it be to see cars driving into the abyss

Matt Crouch · Jun 1, 2009

the pit... in the pit... it makes perfect sense

Rob Goldthorpe · Jun 1, 2009

Pit o' death. Kinda has a ring to it.

Matt Crouch · Jun 2, 2009

Or you could call it Brad Pitt (I believe that's a cave in Yorkshire)

Ryan Callan · Jun 2, 2009

'Fail Pit'

Rob Goldthorpe · Jun 3, 2009

Matt Crouch said:
Or you could call it Brad Pitt (I believe that's a cave in Yorkshire)

Your humour, is humourous! :rotfl:

Dustin Barton · Jun 3, 2009

Getting increasingly impatient...i need this track

Adam Vaughan · Jun 3, 2009

Dustin Barton said:
Getting increasingly impatient...i need this track

I have it :dance2:

Dustin Barton · Jun 4, 2009

Adam Vaughan said:
I have it :dance2:

So we've resorted to gloating i see...just wait until we meet on the track (someday...) :devil:

Andrew Evans · Jun 4, 2009

Dustin Barton said:
Getting increasingly impatient...i need this track

it'll come when its ready... if it ever gets ready.... like i said, currently no fun... hoping to rectify.... friday we'll find out if it lives or dies... :wink:

Petr Kantor · Jun 6, 2009

Andrew Evans said:
ay oop... let me start by saying this has absolutely nothing to do with serious racing... so stop reading now if that's a turn off...

after rF got its backwards-racing thing on the other month, i figured i'd work on my long standing desire to port a couple of fun formats from my pgr2omgconsoleracer days... (didn't think there was really a place for this kinda thing before then)

not sure of the exact structure yet, but the test evening would include trying out the following three event types:

cat & mouse

peoples are split into/organize themselves into teams of 4 drivers... one person is the mouse (mini) the other three are cats (ccgt) in colour coded skins - eg. red team, green team etc...

take to the nords... mice are given a head start, ~45 secs, then the cats set off... first mouse to cross the finish is the winner... cats objective is to do everything possible to ensure their mouse wins... eg. taking out opposing teams mouse, cats... pushing their mouse along the straights... defending their mouse... etc... obviously damage is turned off...

last man standing

very short races - ~3 laps of something small (magny club etc)... everyone starts out in the same car (mini)... at the end of each race the last person is "eliminated"... this means, for the next race they change to something fast and heavy (ccgt)... eliminated peoples then aim to disrupt the race for the remaining drivers... field reduces until there's only 3 people left in a mini (the rest being in ccgt)... last race decides the finishing positions for that event... again, damage off...

destruction derby

similar vein to the stuff that happened in rF... except there's no race or rules to be bothering about... literally a fight to the death, until 1 person remains... am probably gonna knock up some quick/dirty/basic figure 8 track - called Boodschappies Arena :becky: - which can be developed if the format is worth repeating...

so, those are the basic ideas i've been thinking about... i'd like to try them before i do much else - and they'll probably evolve as/if we test them...

couple of other points:

am thinking this would/should support up to 16 participants...

teamspeak usage is mandatory - the whole idea is its a social experience (much like cold laps)... plus, info is easily and quickly conveyed via ts - and am guessing things will need to be explained...

cars aren't fixed on those above... but may well be those for the test...

am gonna stick a poll on here to find out if it's worth setting up (doing any more work on)... bear in mind it's public, so i can see who's voted... voting yes is as good as signing up - so don't do it unless you mean it...

uuuuh, that's about it... shout up if you've any comments etc... :tits:

I am absolutely for something different, for a change! I wish to be notified if some events of this sort happen. FInally something where tuned up setup and perfect racing line does not count (hence chance for me to have some fun).
Even regular destruction derby where last player alive wins is a good mode. Tracks can be created very fast, all we need is a ring (of death ^^ ) or a bowl, but some aditional obstacles in some variations are nice to have too. 8 track is fun to drive during DD as well.