Lawl. With a name like bigsilverhotdog, id expect you to be asking to join.ffs get a room
Lawl. With a name like bigsilverhotdog, id expect you to be asking to join.ffs get a room
Agreed.Some people appear to have some kind of personal agenda against the developers of this game and are in no way interested in being reasonable about it.
Bram linked them repeatedly, funny how you know squat about your own line.....anyway, if you don't believe me that's cool.
Is this thread still going? Wow. Just leave it be people.
Come again? I asked a simple question. You're touting those sales figures to prove a point, so I want to know where you got them?
Nothing.. You seem to dismiss the demise in the sales of Shift 2 compared to Shift 1 when everyone was sold on the amazing eye candy and didn't know the crap they would be given with that fail of even an arcade racer.What is your problem?
Nothing.. You seem to dismiss the demise in the sales of Shift 2 compared to Shift 1 when everyone was sold on the amazing eye candy and didn't know the crap they would be given with that fail of even an arcade racer.
What's your problem with understanding that Shift 2 didn't even sell a million units on all platforms. Go google it yourself genius and see for yourself. That's all I'm saying. You asked for the proof. Go look it up. You can do that can't ya?
If the community stops the religion wars of “my sim is better than yours” and embraces the small number of simulations that exist in the market, then the same market will grow and become healthier.
Those numbers should put Coffeys issues to rest. Drives me nuts a guy asking for proof when all you gotta do is google it.Global sales in millions
1 Need for Speed: Shift PS3 2.52
2 Need for Speed: Shift X360 1.79
3 Need for Speed: Shift PSP 0.69
4 Need for Speed: Shift 2 Unleashed PS3 0.47
5 Need for Speed: Shift 2 Unleashed X360 0.32
6 Need for Speed: Shift 2 Unleashed PC 0.14
7 Need for Speed: Shift PC 0.02
Total 5.94
You sir are an unmitigated ass. Consider this my last conversation with you. I go out of my way to avoid inconsiderate people such as yourself in real life and that extends to forums as well.
VGChartz is known to be unreliable and the figures quoted above are complete fabrications. I happen to know for a fact that Shift sold between 8 and 9 million copies so those figures are off by more than 100%. The figures for Shift 2 were never released by EA and that's the reason I questioned the source... I knew full well that there were no accurate sales figures for Shift 2. As an excercize, try to find another source for Shift 2 sales. You people have been around long enough to know that just because something is published on the web doesn't mean it's accurate.
I don't have to tell you folks what a load of **** this thread has become. Neither side is blameless, but continuing this is counterproductive and embarrassing to all involved. I've never had an agenda here except to try and tell the truth, but with all the ****-slinging going on in here it's hard not to get caught up in it. So, I'm going to ignore this thread going forward. Nothing can really be accomplished here. I'd just like to leave a quote by one of the Assetto Corsa devs. It makes a lot of sense and I hope some of you can take it to heart.
You sir are an unmitigated ass. Consider this my last conversation with you. I go out of my way to avoid inconsiderate people such as yourself in real life and that extends to forums as well.
VGChartz is known to be unreliable and the figures quoted above are complete fabrications. I happen to know for a fact that Shift sold between 8 and 9 million copies so those figures are off by more than 100%. The figures for Shift 2 were never released by EA and that's the reason I questioned the source... I knew full well that there were no accurate sales figures for Shift 2. As an excercize, try to find another source for Shift 2 sales. You people have been around long enough to know that just because something is published on the web doesn't mean it's accurate.
I don't have to tell you folks what a load of **** this thread has become. Neither side is blameless, but continuing this is counterproductive and embarrassing to all involved. I've never had an agenda here except to try and tell the truth, but with all the ****-slinging going on in here it's hard not to get caught up in it. So, I'm going to ignore this thread going forward. Nothing can really be accomplished here. I'd just like to leave a quote by one of the Assetto Corsa devs. It makes a lot of sense and I hope some of you can take it to heart.
Just say the same thing I always say. People are up in arms about not being delivered the best "sim" and being lied to, despite fully knowing the game is still mid development.
Why this thread got reopened I don't know, and why it hasn't been closed I honestly don't know. All this is... is a turd throwing, toys out of the pram, trollfest of a thread. Why is it only on these forums do I see this kind of nonsense over this game? The above post by Farrel Hudjik (sorry to single out) is just ridiculous, I would expect better from my 14 year old nephew, how can you expect someone to take you seriously if you post like that?
I've seen 363692838399399 people just saying rFactor 2 is crap here and in "other websites" and surprisingly that is ok, while all referring PCARS its a drama, almost like if it was unethical in this precise case.
OMG IT'S SO UNFAIR IT'S WONDERFUL YOU JUST HATER I WILL VE RICH WITH MY 10$ INVESTMENT!
Then back to the rF2 thread to say how crap it will be.
It's reopened because I asked the moderator that closed it to do it, because there is not objective reason to close it.
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I get the sense around here that people hold back on rfactor 2 criticism because of ISI's history
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