2012 Formula One Belgian Grand Prix

[Kartik Sri Harsha]

Alonso was the Most unluckiest Person here Had he finished the race it could be in Top 4 for Sure
Let's see How much fired up he was in Monza only a Week to go to know that

 

[Michael Brown]

Alonso was the Most unluckiest Person here Had he finished the race it could be in Top 4 for Sure
Let's see How much fired up he was in Monza only a Week to go to know that

Oh well, time for Alonso to start another fantastic points scoring streak

 

[Chronus]

Alonso was the Most unluckiest Person here Had he finished the race it could be in Top 4 for Sure
Let's see How much fired up he was in Monza only a Week to go to know that

I would never say that, Kartik. Alonso is still alive and didn't have to be rushed to the Hospital. That is lucky.

 

[Drummer]

1) You're the only one being a douchebag from what I see.
2) There is no such thing as deceleration, trust me I'm an engineer.
3) We're not saying he had to slam on the brakes to avoid contact, only "lifting off" the accelerator a bit.

Excuse me while I comprehend the stupid in this post...

Ok, right, so what happens when we step on the 'GO!' pedal? Acceleration? Brilliant, now we're half way there! Now, what happens when we take our foot OFF of the 'GO!' pedal? Are you telling me that if we were to take an infinite long, perfectly straight and perfectly flat road, take an F1 car to top speed then lift off the 'GO!' pedal, the car would continue on for infinity? If so, the laws of physics have been farting in our face all these years! No, when you lift off, the car stops accelerating and the forces which work against the car (including, but not limited to, mechanical friction, wind resistance and gravity... You know that one, right? GRAVITY!?) begin to slow it down. 'Slow down'=decelerate. Jesus, are you even a real person? What exactly do you engineer? Toilet rolls?! -.-

 

[Chronus]

Excuse me while I comprehend the stupid in this post...[...]What exactly do you engineer? Toilet rolls?! -.-

Unbelievable...

 

[Drummer]

Unbelievable...

Oh, WOW! Are you telling me you can't even comprehend a hint of sarcasm? As 'the lowest form of wit' I imagined that it wouldn't take too much wit to understand it! Jesus! Why do I even bother with these people! X-/

 

[Kartik Sri Harsha]

I would never say that, Kartik. Alonso is still alive and didn't have to be rushed to the Hospital. That is lucky.

In terms of Race he was Unlucky but in terms of Life he was the Most Luckiest Person Missing Major Accident by inches ..

Oh well, time for Alonso to start another fantastic points scoring streak

Probably But to reach 24 race Finishes takes time

 

[Chronus]

Oh, WOW! Are you telling me you can't even comprehend a hint of sarcasm? As 'the lowest form of wit' I imagined that it wouldn't take too much wit to understand it! Jesus! Why do I even bother with these people! X-/

Unbelievable.

 

[Chris Jenkins]

Fair play to Vettel. I've criticised him plenty over the past few years, but today was the best I've ever seen him drive. Aggressively taking positions. Respect to him for that.

 

[Drummer]

Unbelievable.

Yes, yes you are!

Anyhow, moving on... I implore you to take a look into just how much speed is lost when lifting completely off the throttle of a modern F1 car. Their weight, aero and mechanics are such that lifting off from, say 150Km/h is pretty much equivalent to standing on the brakes of a sports car travelling at the same speed. All this, and you're telling me that Lewis should have lifted off the throttle, by any amount, to avoid that idiot? Nope, not going to happen, and nor should it need to!

 

[Kartik Sri Harsha]

Fair play to Vettel. I've criticised him plenty over the past few years, but today was the best I've ever seen him drive. Aggressively taking positions. Respect to him for that.

well now you can Accept he was also Good at Overtaking

 

[Chronus]

In terms of Race he was Unlucky but in terms of Life he was the Most Luckiest Person Missing Major Accident by inches ..

Racing is part of these drivers lives. He can only look at what happen as a positive. He is alive to battle it out another day.

Btw, I wouldn't call it a "major accident". Major accident would what happened to Kubica in that BMW or Bergmeister in the Super GT. With Alonso, sorry but if that wheel had hit him he wouldn't resist the injuries - not at that speed.

 

[Shane Butler]

Alonso was the Most unluckiest Person here Had he finished the race it could be in Top 4 for Sure

Alonso was also the luckiest person as had the car been a bit more to the right.... he could have easily been killed. It just brings up the argument again of closed cockpits.

 

[Metalfreaky]

Probably But to reach 24 race Finishes takes time

More importantly 24consecutive points finishes

 

[Kartik Sri Harsha]

More importantly 24consecutive points finishes

Thanx for the Correction

 

[Chronus]

Yes, yes you are!

You are missing the cues, m8. By just saying unbelievable, I was hinting at you that you were making a mistake with Chris Preston. And now with me.

Done talking to you.

 

[Drummer]

You are missing the cues, m8...

No... YOU are missing my point entirely! I know what you were getting at, I'm not a blithering idiot! I know you disagree with me and you ought to know that I don't give a monkey's hoo-haa about that! I have chacked the physics and I never said anything about an F1 driver in an F1 car stamping on the brakes at all, I said about an F1 driver in an F1 car LIFTING OFF THE THROTTLE ENTIRELY and someone in a SPORTS CAR HITTING THE BRAKES being basically the same, with regards to the forces involved. Look, stop being a total idiot and look into it, I'm not just spouting bull here, it's fact, not opinion! Why don't YOU check the physics? Why don't YOU go through telemetry data and learn for yourself, instead of trying to make someone who does know about this stuff seem like an idiot? All you're doing is making yourself look even worse.

Now, because I know when I've been dragged too low in a debate and that if I go any further, I'll end up looking like a moron and, at best, simply repeating myself, I'm going to back out of the debate! Not because I give up, but because my views, opinions and knowledge are here, for all to see, and I have nothing more constructive to add to it. Yes, I may be quite patronising, but that's only because I tend to be able to see what oh so many others seem to miss; stuff I think ought to be obvious, but is so often not.

N.B. Please, don't type in txt spk, it looks childish and doesn't read very well to those of us who use REAL English. -.-

 

[Bradley Vanian]

Grosjean - 1 Race Ban


Very inconsistant from the FIA. If Grosjean gets a 1 Race Ban for that, then Maldonado should of got a 1 Race Ban for the incident with Hamilton at Valencia...

 

[Chronus]

Grosjean - 1 Race Ban


Very inconsistant from the FIA. If Grosjean gets a 1 Race Ban for that, then Maldonado should of got a 1 Race Ban for the incident with Hamilton at Valencia...

Maybe so...but the effects of the incident at Valencia had nothing to do with today's. Grosjean is all over the incident and could have hit Alonso in the head.

 

[Bradley Vanian]

Maybe so...but the effects of the incident at Valencia had nothing to do with today's. Grosjean is all over the incident and could have hit Alonso in the head.

Grosjean didn't intend to nearly decapitate Alonso. Just because some incidents cause worse effects than others, doesn't mean the penalty should be changed.

The penalty should be based on the actions, not the results.

If somebody hits a car and causes only that car to have damage, that should be EXACTLY the same penalty if another car was unfortunately involved if the action was the same.

Grosjean - Accidently caused collision.
Maldonado - Purposely cause collision (Perez in Monaco Practice)

Surely Maldonado should have a harsher penalty ?

As I said before, "The penalty should be based on the actions, not the results."